Justifying Their Employment

Posted by $ rainman0720 1 day, 3 hours ago to Government
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There are articles all over the internet about what Musk and DOGE are doing in regards to Federal workers having to prove that they're actually earning their salaries.

First, I worked almost 45 years as a programmer writing application code before I retired. I can honestly say that other than the initial training on a new job, there wasn't one single day of my entire career where I didn't have to account for my day. Put another way, I had to list what I got done every single day of my working life. So these whining little twerps are getting absolutely no sympathy from me.

Second, all Musk is doing is asking them to justify their position. And to that, I say this: If they can't justify why they have a job, then they shouldn't have that job. If they can't prove that they're actually earning what they're getting paid, then screw 'em. Let them find work in the private sector. If they think that simply listing what you get done each day is too much to ask, they're going to be in for a big surprise once they get a job with someone other than the government.

OK, I'll get off my soapbox now.


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  • Posted by mccannon01 1 day, 2 hours ago
    I couldn't have worded it better, rainman0720. Same profession and I had to account for every hour charged while working for corporate America. When I started contracting, it was all merit based - that is, if you didn't do a good job no customer would call you back or refer you to others. Produce or go hungry.
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  • Posted by $ Commander 13 hours, 11 minutes ago
    Here's another idea regarding "justifying employment". What if there are ghost accounts. A non-response prompts investigation. If there are disbursements, stop them, then investigate the recipient trail for fraud.
    This works for SS, Medicare, Medicaid and a host of other departmental employees/activities.

    Makes me wonder about my County/City/school systems. Already found Act Blue fraud in my area.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 16 hours, 46 minutes ago
    I had a good run with a state government. Here's the deal. The Pareto Principal is alive in well in state government. Take the square root of the number of people in the staff and understand that that many of them are doing 90% of the work. Once you establish yourself in that you're one of the workers, you work! You are expected to work. You're held to a higher standard. Those in the worker class should be able to easily keep their jobs. The rest are squabbling about it. Screw em... When I left my post the top chief (who I get along with great) asked me for one piece of advice. I said, "Close the office in the southern half of the state." They were unsupervised and a constant source of problems. He already knew it...
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  • Posted by diessos 1 day ago
    I agree rainman0720. I also spend 40+ years in IT and was always held accountable for anything I did. I've also been watching their reaction to being let laid off. I know it's not easy to deal with, but I was downsized TWICE in my career and had to start all over again. My only advice to them is.... IT HAPPENS...THATS LIFE.. DEAL WITH IT AND MOVE ON.

    Also, maybe all the fired government workers will move out of northern Virginia and Maryland and turn those states red.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 10 hours, 4 minutes ago
    Never thought about it until just now, I never worked in the dark, My efforts, production, contributions were center stage. No where to hide and I never resented it, in fact, I reveled in the experience. Never had to call attention to it, it was a given.
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    • Posted by $ 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
      I never thought about it either, but it was the same for me. I walked point for production support for probably 39 of my 45 years in the business. Any time any program did anything other than what it was supposed to do, I had to figure out a) what went wrong and b) how to fix it. Meanwhile, all or part of the entire production floor was waiting on me to fix it.
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