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Autism - Vaccination - Link?

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RFK Jr reports-

A researcher wanted more data on unvaccinated groups, so did a study on the Amish.
On the group size he looked at, about 2,000 autism cases would be expected.
The researcher found three.

All of the three were children who had been adopted by the Amish after vaccination.
Of children born to Amish parents, the study found none with autism.
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    Posted by JohnRandALL 5 days, 13 hours ago
    RFK Jr recently said trusting the experts is not a feature of science. It's not a feature of democracy. It's a feature of religion and totalitarianism. So true.
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      Posted by 5 days, 7 hours ago
      I rather like this quote of Richard Feynman:
      Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts.

      The person who can be trusted does not speak from rank but gives good explanations and provides evidence.

      On the subject of autism and vaccinations, looks to me that the medical regulators shut down discussion too early, in favor of Big Pharma as it happens.
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  • Posted by tutor-turtle 5 days, 1 hour ago
    I watched a documentary about 10-15 years ago called: "The Great Culling"
    It sounds a little over the top then.
    Now? Not so much.
    They (whoever "they" are) are killing us.
    Food, Water, Air, Chemtrails, Jabs, Microwave Radiation.
    Going to bury another 40-year-old relative this week. Cancer.
    Yeah, were being Culled. Like so many excess sheeple.
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    • Posted by Dobrien 12 hours, 44 minutes ago
      Hmmm my description of the evil enemy …Satanic Luciferian Genocidal Globalist Peedo Cabal about covers it. I can tell you who a lot of them are. But I am just the crazy conspiracy theorist , who happens to be 17-0 .As facts reveal. Royalty, oligarchs, Founders of the World agencies and their WWF WHO WEF …UN. NGO’s ,International organizations good places to start. To me it’s like Buffalo in the pre 1800’s out west .Abundant targets.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 4 days, 21 hours ago
    Voltaire said it best. "Those who can make you believe fallacies can make you commit atrocities." Very true. He was always on the run, apparently. Haha... What has happened to America's young people is surely an atrocity. All the depression, suicide, trans crap, cancer, diabetes, autism, violence...something's not right. And, as I realized years ago, America's going to pay for it. And, now it's pretty clear it's starting to...
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 4 days, 21 hours ago
    Yeah. Old news. There is certainly a link between childhood vaccines and autism. I first saw it two decades ago and always wondered if it would enter the mainstream discussion. And, now it has. Very interesting. Feel free to ask me about this. The data on the Amish started seeing the light of day many years ago.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 5 days, 3 hours ago
    That research is SO telling! That 2,000 unvaccinated versus 3 vaccinated adopted kids almost took me dino's breath away.
    I have an autistic niece whose sister-in-law mama is a nurse who made sure all three of her now grown girls got every vaccination under the sun.
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  • Posted by 1 day, 12 hours ago
    As the instigator of this thread, I will add a postscript.

    Thanks to all contributors.

    Abaco of course who speaks from personal experience as well as knowledge.

    dougthorburn for a reminder of the Semmelweis story- A medical doctor of almost 200 years ago found that disinfecting hands by staff gave a substantial improvement in patient recovery. He had the evidence but facts are not important to existing hierarchies. He had some success along with on-going hostility.

    Thoritsu, I absolutely agree about the wuhu/covid, the fake vaxs and the hysteria. Yes, and the serious lack of evidence for vaxxing children, babies especially.
    About the other vaxs I have changed my mind from acceptance to caution and skepticism. What I am quite sure about is that the evidence needs re-evaluation.

    I have read about Andrew Wakefield, (all vaxs cause autism). Looking back my memory is that critics were jumping on a bandwagon.
    Is there a good recent review?
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  • Posted by dougthorburn 4 days, 15 hours ago
    Anyone who reads, "Turtles All the Way Down," "Poisoned Needle," and/or "Moth in the Iron Lung," will never take another "vaccine" again.

    This, from someone who was the most pro-vaxx guy you'd ever talk to as of the beginning of 2020. I didn't take this "vaccine" because I learned quickly that a year of "trials" (there weren't any) did not compare with the shortest pre-approval study of any prior vaccine, which was five years. I didn't even begin to question the other vaccines until 2022 (up to 2020 I took ever vaccine for which I was eligible--a term of propaganda), when I stumbled onto a little fact: there were mass protests against mandatory smallpox vaccines in the late 1800s in large cities that had such requirements.

    I asked a simple question: why would there have been mass protests against innoculations that purportedly protected us against a disease with a 30% kill rate?

    What I learned astounded even me: the mass innoculations were causing mass outbreaks of smallpox.

    Sort of like this "vaccine" makes it more likely to get the Fauci-Wuhan Virus not just once, but multiple times.

    That began my trajectory down multiple rabbit holes. Today, I wouldn't take a rabies or tetanus shot.

    And what I figured out is the example of Ignaz Semmelweis was not an outlier. It is the history of medicine. And that vaccines are the biggest psy-op in world history, bigger than Marxism. Those living under that horrendous system generally didn't believe in it. Those living with vaccines? Nearly everyone has believed in the safety and efficacy of vaccines. Even me. Until 2022.
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    • Posted by Dobrien 13 hours, 1 minute ago
      Welcome to the Great awakening. I have warned of Fauci and his demonic ilk for many years on this board . The fuQing death jab killed my sister but she was brainwashed into the fear and “trust the science”. I was crazy and dangerous for not getting the poison.
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      • Posted by mccannon01 5 hours, 10 minutes ago
        My wife and I see evidence practically every day that makes us glad we never participated in the jab. Especially the respiratory and other problems people way younger than us suffer for weeks at a time. Some curse the jab as they were so much healthier before. Yeah, anecdotal and unscientific evidence, but seems like an awful lot of it.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 5 days, 3 hours ago
    Don't the Amish drown challenged babies?
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    • Posted by $ jdg 4 days, 16 hours ago
      I doubt it, but I'll look at evidence if anyone has some.
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      • Posted by $ Thoritsu 4 days, 16 hours ago
        forgot the /s/
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        • Posted by $ jdg 4 days, 16 hours ago
          I did not forget anything.
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          • Posted by $ Thoritsu 4 days, 16 hours ago
            I forgot the /s/. I was being sarcastic, which is all this post merits.

            COVID vaccines are not a vaccine. The polio and other vaccines are fantastic, and necessary. There is NO, ZERO, ZILCH link between autism and vaccines. The original was fabricated, and nothing else has supported it since ... except non-vaccines being non-valuable. COVID was a joke. I had the scary sniffles twice. The COVID recovery drug, Prevecid, is FAR, FAR worse than ANY (and I mean ANY) COVID symptom! My gut can digest a sea urchin. I haven't has a stomach issue in 40 years. Previcid made me feel like I had swallowed sulfuric acid, then chewed a pound of steel wool, and then swallowed it!
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            • Posted by $ Abaco 4 days, 15 hours ago
              "no, zero, zilch link between autism and vaccines"

              "Prevecid, is far, far worse than any (and I mean any) covid symptom"

              Well....My son got autism from four vaccines (including the MMR, which he was given way too early by any current standards) given at one visit at the age of 8 months. And, my dad died a miserable death of Covid. The only thing that saved my son was my own research in a couple of laboratories that showed a plethora of toxins in his body at 12-months age (some of which we know come from vaccines). I can explain why those toxins harm some and not others, but it's late and I have work to do. Can explain later. "The original was fabricated" I assume is a reference to Andrew Wakefield. Well, I've met with Andrew face-to-face about 13 years ago and discussed what I found with him. It was very interesting.

              But, let's get something straight. Anybody can claim that there is no risk to any amount of vaccines given to a baby at any age. What they can't do (as long as we have the 2nd amendment) is mandate vaccines on people. If vaccines are fully safe and effective then knock yourself out with them and don't worry about other people....because you're fully, safely protected. Right? Right...
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              • Posted by $ Thoritsu 4 days, 15 hours ago
                I guess we have that straight. Nothing is without risk. Got it.

                Not sure how the other "vaccines" stack up, but I if you don't take a Polio vaccine, you forego ALL public support for your potential challenges. Too bad it didn't kill FDR 20 years earlier!
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                • Posted by $ Abaco 4 days, 4 hours ago
                  Notice the news that "polio has been detected in the sewers of NY!" Newsflash...It's always been there. Polio has been eradicated (I don't like saying this...) regardless of vaccination status. Polio is why we have wet p-traps, dual check valve backflow preventers and chlorinated swimming pools. Tetanus was eradicated with the automobile...maybe 5 to 10 cases in the US each year, and it's cured with an antibiotic (because it's a simple bacteria). I'm a real hoot at cocktail parties because I know all the infection control trivia you could imagine - for my work.

                  Get this...what actually killed my dad wasn't just the C19 virus. What really killed him is that he had been living for 5 years with infusion treatments because 5 years earlier he became COMPLETELY paralyzed on a feeding tube in an ICU. His infusion treatments were to REDUCE his antibodies- making him very vulnerable to Covid. His antibodies had become so elevated that they started attacking his muscular neurons and he couldn't move. Guess why his antibodies turned on him. I diagnosed him when his doctor said, "We think it's a stroke but we can't find it." The doc was wrong. I was right. Just take a guess what my dad was doing to elevate his antibodies (and he was doing a lot of it).

                  I know things almost nobody knows because I've seen things almost nobody has seen. Dagny Taggert said it best. "I studied engineering. When I see something, I see it."
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                  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 4 days, 4 hours ago
                    I have no idea what to guess for each of the suggestions that I do. Was he drinking (and doing a lot of it)?

                    I am an engineer too, and I know lots of things most people don't. Not sure why that is really relevant, unless someone else is appealing to the expert.
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                    • Posted by $ Abaco 4 days, 3 hours ago
                      I like to say, "I know a great deal about very little."

                      My dad was, if there is such a thing, a vaccine addict. He fully believed that his key to living a long life was take every pharmaceutical offered by a doctor...especially vaccines. I warned him, "Dad, you're going to hurt yourself with this." Then, one day he showed up at my house with his face sagging and slightly slurring his speech. Got him to the doctor who thought it was a stroke. As my dad finally became completely paralyzed, and was given no more than a week to live, I sent the doctor a written note that said, "My dad's antibodies are probably elevated. That's why you can't find his stroke. I think he has myasthenia gravis." My dad said the doctor came into his room - feeding tube hanging out of my dad's mouth. Six other doctors also came in. The doc said, "We got a note from your son and we're going to put something in your IV that will knock down your antibodies. If he's right you'll be able to move again for a couple minutes." It worked. They actually did it twice because one of the doctors asked to, "I've never seen that before!" My dad called when he got home and said (and he and i didn't really get along all the time),, "Son - You saved my life." I said, "Great. Now quit being a pain in my ass." And, we laughed. He lived on infusions for 5 years that knocked down his antibodies. When Covid arrived he decided to go into the hospital (that attitude of his...) for an angio test he didn't really need...against my warnings. Caught Covid there and died in a couple days.
                      .
                      I personally knew two children who were killed by vaccines. One was an infant ("SIDS"). The other was a 15 year old boy who was my son's friend. The boy got a flu shot and his immune system shut down from it. Ended up dying a miserable death with MRSA in his lungs. 25 days in his mom pulled the plug on his ventilator. I'll never forget that.

                      I could tell you stuff over a beer that would blow your mind... I wish I didn't know any of it.
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                      • Posted by $ Thoritsu 4 days, 3 hours ago
                        The SIDS one is hard to correlate, but neither should have taken the COVID vax. Children never needed it. The 15 yr old sounds just like every one where a young person has an issue from it.
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                        • Posted by $ Abaco 3 days, 22 hours ago
                          "SIDS" is one component of our American mess where our babies die at rates that are surprisingly high for western civilization. We don't do very well. Our kids aren't well. The baby we knew who died, I'm pretty sure, was a reaction to DTAP. Our babies are absolutely loaded up with vaccines. Just look at the current CDC schedule. Compare that to what you or I was subjected to (I was born late 60s). Not even close. That, alone, is not "proof". But...it's what I'd call "a material fact".
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            • Posted by dougthorburn 4 days, 15 hours ago
              Actually, vaccines cause nearly all cases of autism. Talk to mothers with autistic children.

              Look at the chart of childhood vaccines in the mid'80s: five or so. Autism: one in ten thousand. Today: 75 vaccines. Autism: one in 30. There are no other causative agents. Carbs were already good and fats were already bad. Seed oils were already permeating the food supply. There is nothing else comparable.

              BTW, SIDS, too. There are virtually no cases of SIDS in the two weeks prior to baby "well" visits. Nearly all such cases occur in the two weeks following such visits.

              Look at the money pediatricians make from administering vaccines. Consider the fact that so few of us exhibit the most important human attribute: integrity. Many doctors and nearly all administrators completely lack this attribute. You will not get the truth from them.
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              • Posted by $ Thoritsu 4 days, 15 hours ago
                I stopped at "look at".

                Look at autism in 1900 vs now? We should reverse the industrial revolution!

                We are happy to argue correlation vs causation for AGW, but for vaccines it is the wild west of logical fallacies.
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