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  • Posted by $ Abaco 3 weeks ago
    Biden will probably pardon Fauci. Then we’ll continue to be told every day forever that the jab is safe, effective, and should be mandatory for anyone who wants to be able to buy groceries and have a job…
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    • Posted by $ CBJ 2 weeks, 6 days ago
      I've heard that one possible upside to any such pardon is that the person pardoned can no longer plead the fifth amendment if called upon to testify in court or before a legislative body such as Congress.
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      • Posted by $ jdg 2 weeks, 1 day ago
        That is only true if the pardon-ee does not face potential state-law charges. For a state-law offense you would need to be pardoned by the governor.
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    • Posted by 3 weeks ago
      All the more reason to arrest and convict the ones who caused the coup in November 2020 and toss out everything they did including all pardons.
      I'd prefer secession though. Let D.C. and the coastal morons drown in their own sewage.
      Unfortunately, the Deep State isn't going to surrender and they will kill anyone who gets in the way.
      I still doubt that any peaceful way of restoring liberty will meet with success.
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      • Posted by $ Abaco 2 weeks, 6 days ago
        I think he's going to do it. He's actually going to pardon Fauci... Holy shit...
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        • Posted by 2 weeks, 6 days ago
          Of course he is.
          Fauci served the Deep State for decades. So has Buydem.
          Both are guilty of treason. (Execute them.)
          If he is pardoned, then he'll need protection 24x7 for the rest of his life.
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          • Posted by nonconformist 2 weeks, 6 days ago
            Execution is a waste. Any damage caused must be paid back. It would be better to put them in a labor camp and made to work, earning a wage that would be used to pay back the victims.
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            • Posted by $ Abaco 2 weeks, 4 days ago
              As an engineer who has studied vaccines and infection control to great depths for decades for my work, lost a father and close friend to covid, and has a vaccine-injured son - permanently disabled...after watching Fauci lie to Congress I think he should be arrested, charged and executed. And, I'm the oddball who is opposed to capital punishment for one simple reason. Sometimes the government gets it wrong. In this case they get it wrong if they don't carry out proper justice. If we don't do that let's put him in the ring with me for three rounds and sell pay-per-view to help everybody who's now disabled (I know one) by the mRNA jab. I'd string it out for three rounds.
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            • Posted by 2 weeks, 6 days ago
              Better to seize all their assets and execute them. They can't do any work of value without being parasites.
              Otherwise the next corrupt scum cheat-selected POTUS would pardon them.
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              • Posted by nonconformist 2 weeks, 6 days ago
                Seizing all their assets goes without saying. However, I can't see why they wouldn't be able at least some useful work. I am sure someone out there in the free market can figure out some way to squeeze some money out of their future existence. Execution is denial of victim restitution. I would consider that a crime in itself. Maybe a billionaire can pay a billion dollars for the chance to execute them on live TV. That's still execution, but you would have used the free market to find the best use of resource and the victims would have gotten at least partially paid back.

                Pardoning doesn't do anything, it is just empty words. Think about it, nobody has the right to forgive damages (except maybe the victims themselves). Maybe you guys should fix your legal system first before trying to correct injustices it might be causing.
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                • Posted by 2 weeks, 6 days ago
                  If you think it's easy to fix then go out and fix it yourself instead of expecting others to do your bidding.
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                  • Posted by nonconformist 2 weeks, 5 days ago
                    Noone can save you from yourselves if you guys are unwilling to be saved. First, the masses have to admit they have a problem and be willing to accept the change. I see self-righteous people all over the place, full of disastrously wrong superstitions. When I try to persuade you guys of the falseness of your beliefs, I do not make much progress. The masses do not want to know the truth. They cannot handle it. "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it." I would rather not engage in a futile pursuit.
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  • Posted by $ rainman0720 2 weeks, 5 days ago
    I'm with you on this one, FFA. To quote Hanover Fiste talking about Captain Sternn (although I would change he and him in this quote to they and them:

    "He's nothing but a low-down, double-dealing, backstabbing, larcenous perverted worm! Hanging's too good for him. Burning's too good for him! He should be torn into little bitsy pieces and buried alive!"
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    • Posted by $ Thoritsu 2 weeks, 4 days ago
      +1 for reference! Love that movie, and that scene!

      “Ohh, and Hanover.”
      “Huh?”
      “Good bye Hanover”


      “I might come home someday and find you screwing the toaster.” “You’ll just have to trust me”
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  • Posted by Casebier 2 weeks, 5 days ago
    The Presidential pardon was to provide relief to persons wrongly convicted, or persons who have been convicted and paid their penalties. The pardoning power was neither intended, nor is it constitutional to effectively make a person immune from prosecution for undefined, possibly unsuspected, illegal actions both past or prospective, and if Biden uses it to effectively create a legal bubble wrap around his political pals, he should be immediately impeached by the Republican House and convicted by a Republican led 2/3rds Senate when the GOP becomes the majority on January 3rd.
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  • Posted by $ gharkness 2 weeks, 5 days ago
    This is just so horrifically ugly. Words cannot describe. The only thing I can say about it is that it is an admission that each and every one of those actors (and likely many more) were actually engaged in criminal activity. Our country is in big, big trouble.
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  • Posted by term2 2 weeks, 1 day ago
    I have concluded that the left is totally crooked and cant be believed at all. Too bad for them. Biden's legacy is that he and his family are just crooked thieves. Good riddance.!
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 3 weeks ago
    Be careful what you wish for. The 22nd Amendment states, "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice". If it's proved that the 2020 election was stolen, then Trump would be ineligible to become President in 2025.
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    • Posted by 3 weeks ago
      No big deal. The SCOTUS would rule that Trump's term was interrupted illegally and it would start in 2025 for 4 years and all actions taken by the illegal administration in the period 2021-2024 were voided.
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      • Posted by $ CBJ 2 weeks, 6 days ago
        There is no mechanism in place, constitutional or otherwise, for this to happen. No practical way either. How do you un-appoint judges, or undo their decisions? Or recover a meaningful amount of taxpayer money that was spent? Or un-pass legislation that was approved by Congress and signed by the President? Or un-borrow the trillions of dollars that were added to the national debt? It can't be done.
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      • Posted by CTYankee44 2 weeks, 5 days ago
        The only permanent way to properly invalidate the Biden presidency is by "trial at drum head" with summary judgement and summary 'penalties' (hanging, guillotine, firing squad, etc.) handed out.

        A FAIR jury would need to be impaneled, and I'm not being facetious, I really mean a fair jury. The evidence will be presented to a tribunal, the jury will hear the evidence -- NO SIDEBARS -- no excusing the jury, which will rule guilty or not guilty. The judges will then weigh the opinion of EACH juror in isolation, and impose sentence.

        At that point there will be no protracted legal shenanigans, no lengthy appeals. The orders will be entered and sentences carried out. If the sentence turns out to be prison, the convict is thrown onto solitary confinement with NO CONTACT AT ALL at all for the duration. Really! Other than the guards, no contact, no lawyers, no spouses, no children, NO ONE. The convict is offered a cyanide capsule if they prefer.
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      • Posted by mccannon01 2 weeks, 6 days ago
        Oh yeah, SCOTUS. Sigh, I've just finished listening to a few clips of the Trans issue before the court right now and the Hispanic-Female-Perspective judge and the I-Can't-Define-A-Woman judge are showing the whole world collectively they don't have the brains to fill a thimble. The I-Can't-Define-A-Woman judge did manage to bring the race card into play, though - whatever that has to do with slicing and dicing children.
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      Posted by CTYankee44 2 weeks, 5 days ago
      Whether legitimate or invalid Joe Biden was elected in 2020, not President Trump.

      The ridiculous interpretation of the 22nd might be be valid if the ELECTORAL COLLEGE had not chosen to use invalid certifications and install (elect) Sleepy Joe.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 2 weeks, 5 days ago
    I would LOVE these pardons to be given. It would completely demonstrate that a crime was committed OR that the justice system is wholly corrupt.
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    • Posted by $ rainman0720 2 weeks, 5 days ago
      But what then? There would be no means of getting to -- and showing the world -- the truth behind what the DS has done, most recently them working with the Chinese to create and then release the Chinese/Wuhan virus and the theft of the 2020 presidential election. With pardons, they could all tell you, me, and the rest of us to go screw ourselves, and that would be the end of it.
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      • Posted by $ Thoritsu 2 weeks, 5 days ago
        Maybe there is a way to get to the bottom of this, but I think all the evidence is gone, and the investigation will simply go down as a giant pointless witch hunt in most circles. This accomplishes nothing.

        If we really found a smoking gun, and everyone understood the Constitutional disaster it was, that might help a lot, but I just don’t think it will happen. They have had 6 years to bury the information, beginning with deleting all the record at the request of the Chinese in 2019.

        Pardons make them look guilty. That is all we are going to get.
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        • Posted by $ rainman0720 2 weeks, 5 days ago
          They may have buried stuff starting in 2019, but I can't see the libs in general having enough integrity to destroy something when they know they may be able to use it later against that person or business or government. And the Dems used the power of the US Government against Trump, knowing with certainty that even if he wasn't in jail, there's no way he'd have time to do any politicking. When that failed, they resorted to trying to kill him. I believe that while you're probably right about shit being buried for years, the physical and electronic shredders didn't really get going until about 10pm EST on that wonderful Tuesday night.
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