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Disorganization in Modern Scholarship Reflects, or is Reflected By, Disorganization and Chaos in Culture

Posted by $ SpiritWoman 1 week, 6 days ago to Politics
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Lately I have come to the realization that there is little 'scholarship' in Modern Scholarship. As for instance, the University of Columbia noted historian Eric Foner, whose recent book, a study of his idea that Reconstruction in the South following the Civil War was a great and good contribution. Or Project 1619, a journalistic essay by Nikole Hannah-Jones that received a Pulitzer Prize. These are only two from so many of the seriously flawed 'scholarship' items currently posing as learned theses in the U.S.
I could, and may later, present more examples. But I wanted input from members of the Gulch. Agree or disagree, please present arguments.


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  • Posted by mccannon01 1 week, 5 days ago
    You're preaching to the choir here in the Gulch, SpiritWoman, but more information and scholarly opinion is always welcome.

    Yes, in recent times Pulitzer prizes have been cheapened by being awarded to "journalists" for pure fantasies like the "Trump/Russia" hoax. The Nobel prize was cheapened by being awarded to Barak Obama for doing virtually nothing. The propaganda spinning 24/7 in the so-called news cycle can make one dizzy.

    Merge antagonists of "The Fountainhead" and "Atlas Shrugged" and you have a road map of today's left and its impact on our society. Those works are supposed to be novels. not playbooks, but here we are.
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    • Posted by $ 1 week, 1 day ago
      I read them both when I was fifteen, (about 1960), along with "For the New Intellectual" a synopsis of her works by herself. I know exactly what you mean, never thought it could really happen. I wish people of Objectivism would take a more active role, we could lose the very country where freedom was born.

      Incidentally, that Nobel if you remember was given to Obamma just a few weeks or months after his first inauguration. Something stinks, for sure!
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    • Posted by $ 1 week, 5 days ago
      Preaching to the choir, huh? If so, then I would have expected the 'choir' to have gone all out in condemnation of modern scholarship, but I seldom hear it.
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      • Posted by mccannon01 1 week, 5 days ago
        The Gulch choir. In here there has been plenty of condemnation of academia at all levels and the shoddy product it has been producing. There are exceptions within the educational system, too. We have a few of those in the Gulch. Hang around for a while as the numbers of participants in the Gulch cycle up and down over time.
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        • Posted by $ 1 week, 4 days ago
          Sometimes I have the feeling that Gulchers pretty much stick to themselves and don't get out and around where they can influence others. Except for those like Robert Gore, et.

          Actually though, censorship by the Left on various platforms is beginning to loosen up a bit.
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          • Posted by $ allosaur 1 week, 4 days ago
            LOL! Here you're "talking" to people who all read Atlas Shrugged. (-:
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            • Posted by $ 1 week, 4 days ago
              Dino, I'm not sure I get your point. I know that, but I still wonder if Gulchers should take more initiative in getting her thoughts on individual freedom across to non-Gulchers.
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              • Posted by $ allosaur 1 week, 3 days ago
                Gulchers shrugged when they went to hide in The Gulch of the novel.
                A force field will even wreck an airplane should someone try to fly in there.
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                • Posted by $ 1 week, 3 days ago
                  You know, dino, the Galt's Gulch of Atlas Shrugged was in a Colorado Rocky Mountain Valley. My beautiful state since ruined by the liberal/socialist/marxists.
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                  • Posted by $ allosaur 1 week, 3 days ago
                    I saw your beautiful state during the summer of 1972. I toured the American Southwest by visiting parks when honorably discharged from the Marines.
                    Pretty sure I saw San Francisco before it became San Fransicko for not seeing homeless anywhere.
                    I even spent a night outside beside the Rio Grande in the Big Bend Texas park.
                    I would not go anywhere near that river now.
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                    • Posted by $ 1 week, 3 days ago
                      It is or WAS a beautiful state. Did you know in 1973 I think it was the people voted NOT to have the winter Olympics here? Colorado just didn't care to have all that many tourists coming in to this beautiful state!

                      At that time, Boulder was the only liberal area in the state. We called Boulder: Fifty square miles surrounded by Reality. Now it's all changed; Highlands Ranch in the southern part of Denver is referred to as Little California, because of all the Silicon Valley people who moved in, in the nineties.

                      The Southwest is beautiful too, though much is desert areas. My mom retired to Albuquerque, and I have lived there off and on during the last ten or twelve years. Right near to that Great River, too.

                      The Atomic Bomb Museum in Albuquerque is a great attraction too.
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                      • Posted by $ allosaur 1 week, 3 days ago
                        Shucks, I did not know I missed an atomic bomb museum. Never even heard of it. Oh, well.
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                        • Posted by $ 1 week, 3 days ago
                          They call it something else now. More...friendly. I got on the bus once to see it, and told the driver, and he said: And it's a good one, too. And what can you say to that? As if any atomic bomb museum can be a good one. There are mock-ups of Little Boy and Fat Man. You do remember that Los Alamos and Trinity were where the work was done on developing the first bomb? And where David Greenglass, the Rosenberg's brother worked, to get diagrams, etc. to give to Julius and Ethel to give to the Soviets because they weren't really spying, only working with an ally to defeat a common enemy, so they weren't actually communists, but anti-fascists. I read a book recently about David Greenglass, "The Brother". He sold out his own sister so he only spent about ten or eleven years in prison, something like that. And of course the Rosenbergs were executed.
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                • Posted by $ 1 week, 3 days ago
                  Well, my point is, should we shrug? Or should we try to fix the system?
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                  • Posted by $ allosaur 1 week, 3 days ago
                    Out of The Gulch my handle is RedState when I decide to opine in a comments section of an online article.
                    In The Gulch some were opining that a vote is wasted for voting being rigged.
                    I argued that I'll always vote because I'm not giving in to evil.
                    I believe that a landslide always has a chance of beating a rigged election.
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                    • Posted by $ 1 week, 3 days ago
                      But dino, there was a landslide in 2020, I'm almost 100% sure. But somehow 'they' were still able to impose the Alzheimer's ridden Biden, and his minion. Or, 'their' minions, whoever 'they' can be. Obamma is not a 'they'; he is just not smart enough.
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                      • Posted by $ allosaur 1 week, 3 days ago
                        I'm thinking there will be a bigger landslide this time.
                        Black and Hispanic citizens are turning against the Democrat Party due to inflationary Bidenomics.
                        Only idiots can't see what the Puppet-In-Chief's handlers have done to this country.
                        I'm not giving up. There's Irish in me from my other's side.
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                        • Posted by $ 1 week, 3 days ago
                          But there's so many idiots in this country! What happened?

                          Swedish-Irish. Quite a mix. Well, what can a wop-okie say?
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                          • Posted by Dobrien 6 days, 23 hours ago
                            Ignorant or idiot. It depends I guess on the desire to know the truth. I know that his story we have been taught is as fake as the msm . You are very well read, according to your comments , the Prussiagate series will challenge and open the eyes of those who think they know the last 300
                            years of his story . Will Zoll and his team set te record straight . I recommend starting at the beginning https://substack.com/@prussiagate
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                            • Posted by $ 6 days, 23 hours ago
                              I get Zoll's emails, but I really don't have time. You haven't given me one good reason why this is NOT similar to a conspiracy theory, and why it appears as if government rather than academic analyses is responsible. Why, Mr. D.?
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                          • Posted by $ allosaur 1 week, 3 days ago
                            I also got some amount of diluted French in me too.
                            My deceased father's ancestor research revealed I'm also related to French settlers that the British kicked out of a Canadian province.
                            Some of those Frenchies became Cajuns. My frog ancestors stayed up north, Rivet!
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                            • Posted by $ 1 week, 3 days ago
                              We may be related, but my French ancestor, LeFlore, was not in Accadia, I don't think. He was soldier in the French Army when that area, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama belonged to France. He was the one who married the Choctaw daughter of Shumaka, and I think even the great Pushmataha was of his lineage. The McGillivray influence, the Highlander, landed in Georgia, traded with the Creek (Muskogee) and married the beautiful Sehoy, princess of the Creeks. Her progeny married into the Choctaw branch, and that woman married a Merritt Dillard who moved out of Mississippi in 1860 to lands given to him by the government in Indian Territory. He did not want to stay in Mississippi for obvious reasons. Long story, but I think interesting. My great-great grandfather, Josiah Hamilton (Foot) Dillard was a deputy for Buck Garrett, nephew of Pat Garrett who killed Billy the Kid. Buck himself shot one of the Dalton's. But Foot didn't make Deputy until he got out of prison on a technicality after spending about eight years for killing someone in a land dispute. Are you a product of the West, Carol? I was asked once. The Old West? What can I say!!

                              I think probably everyone in America has a story similar to mine. In fact, and here's an interesting thing, my grandson married a woman who is a Dalton, and related to those particular Daltons, I believe!!
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 1 week, 5 days ago
    I wrote here last year: “Mankind has vacillated for untold centuries between Objectivity (Aristotle's Logic and Galileo's experimental method, primarily) and Subjectivity (Protagoras' "Man is the measure of all things, of things that are, that they are, of things that are not, that they are not.")”

    "The last major outbreak of Objectivity called the Age of Enlightenment in the 17th and 18th Centuries which peaked with The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution began to ebb soon after the Constitution was presented to the world. America today (2023) is totally run by Subjectivists. "

    A hundred-twenty years-ago, the standard in journalism consisted of five words: Who, What, Why, When and Where. Reporters kept their opinions to themselves. That's all gone now!

    "When reason dies. emotions rise, and civilizations crumble."

    Sad.
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    • Posted by $ 1 week, 5 days ago
      I agree, j_IR, But rationality in the affairs of men began to ebb long before one hundred and twenty years ago.

      I am also an historian of math and science; nowhere today can I find anything even resembling Faraday's meticulous experiments in electrical phenomena nor Maxwell's quantification of those attempts, whereby we now have harnessed the power of electricity.

      In fact, I can't even find mathematical research today to compare with the analysis of proportions that Bradwardine of England, and following him, Oresme of France, did in their attempts to quantify force and resistance, in the 14th century, prior to Newton's Laws of Mechanics.

      Technology I admit has done much in computer hardware and software, but that has less to do with analysis than with applying 'rules'.
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      • Posted by j_IR1776wg 1 week, 5 days ago
        Education ought to be about teaching students how to think objectively.

        John Dewey's My Pedigogic Creed 1897 killed that idea in its first sentence:" I believe that all education proceeds by the participation of the individual in the social consciousness of the race. This process begins unconsciously almost at birth, and is continually shaping the individual's powers, saturating his consciousness, forming his habits, training his ideas, and arousing his feelings and emotions. Through this unconscious education the individual gradually comes to share in the intellectual and moral resources which humanity has succeeded in getting together. He becomes an inheritor of the funded capital of civilization. The most formal and technical education in the world cannot safely depart from this general process. It can only organize it; or differentiate it in some particular direction."

        His ideas rule the educational establishment in America. Perhaps this is why so few are doing meticulous experiments.
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        • Posted by $ 1 week, 5 days ago
          I haven't read much of John Dewey, his name just seems so, well, Leftist! And his statement here "the social consciousness of the race" justifies that! Wonder what that even means---is it connected to Jung's 'collective unconscious'? Perhaps related to Boaz' "cultural relativity"? The next sentences seem to be articulate and intellectual but say not much of substance.

          Currently I'm reading Jean Piaget, his first book, published 1923, "The Language and Thought of Children" is fascinating. As a mother with a young child, I had read some of Piaget. Now I'm seeing a deeper interchange and dialogue. I'm in chapter two, and I say that because so far everything he has posited bears up the Aristotelian notion that the age of reason is seven.

          I believe, j_IR, seriously, that children are deliberately taught how NOT to think, but to rely on the Federal Government for truth. I read something by I think his name was James Q. Wilson, wherein he said "government shapes character". How dangerous. One would think Hitler Youth would still be in living memory.
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          • Posted by j_IR1776wg 1 week, 5 days ago
            Dewey was so beloved by the left he was even made honorary president of the National Education Assoc. from 1930 to 1934.
            https://worldviewtube.com/worldviewpe...

            I agree the schools are aggressively inflicting an anti-Reason agenda on our children and grandchildren. OTOH, my daughter and her husband have their 11-year old son in a Montessori school and the results are inspiring. So there is some hope.

            Have you read Maria Montessori's The Secret of Childhood?
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            • Posted by $ 1 week, 4 days ago
              I have done some reading in the Montessori Method and have been impressed, especially in the ways she devised to teach counting and math.

              My daughters were influenced and I hate to say it, by mostly 'progressive' thought of the sort that goes your parents were all wrong, etc. And it is easy to get it across to your children, after they learn about World War II, etc., and Civil Rights activism and Vietnam War protests. And illegal abortion is like, well, a WITCH HUNT, and what adolescent wouldn't go for unrestrained sexual activity? But I believe they can be 're-educated', so to speak. Both went into my own field of endeavor, mathematics. And my eldest daughter made sure her own children stayed cool and collected during high school. So there's hope.

              Well, you can see a very direct relationship between chaos in culture and disorganization in thought.

              An interesting occurrence in the early 19th century, of a mathematician urging his son to give up trying to disprove Euclid's Fifth, Parallel, Postulate, comparing that quest to a young man's desire for romance!

              I could never have home-schooled my kids, neither of them thought I had any sense whatsoever!
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          • Posted by $ Commander 1 week, 2 days ago
            My dad used much of what came from John Holt: How Children Fail (1964) and How Children Learn (1967). Both akin to Piaget. I watched him struggle with the "system" for 37 years of his career. He was directly fired 3 times and coerced twice from his employment ..... just for standing up for the kids.
            Dewey? Hegelian dialectic. Use the same vocabulary with a twist in meaning. This is the entirety of the progressive movement.

            One can be a competent or cunning linguist. Is it backed up by objective philosophy and reason?

            Poem 27 from Tao te' ching (American prose interpretation; 1944; Witter Bynner: (The Way of Life According To Lao Tzu)


            One may move so well that a foot-print never shows,
            Speak so well that the tongue never slips,
            Reckon so well that no counter is needed,
            Seal an entrance so tight, though using no lock,
            That it cannot be opened,
            Bind a hold so firm, though using no cord,
            That it cannot be untied.
            And these are traits not only of a sound man
            But of many a man thought to be unsound.
            A sound man is good at salvage,
            At seeing that nothing is lost.
            Having what is called insight,
            A good man, before he can help a bad man,
            Finds in himself the matter with the bad man.
            And whichever teacher
            Discounts the lesson
            Is as far off the road as the other,
            Whatever else he may know.
            That is the heart of it.
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            • Posted by $ 1 week, 2 days ago
              I should say my interests lie in math and science, economics, archaeology, anthropology and the psychological sciences---I don't believe sociology is a legitimate scientific discipline. I am a student of human nature, and thus a student of history, including the history of math and science. The only philosophy I can take seriously is Rand's Objectivism, and I can give you the whys and wherefores of how it actually represents reality. And, oh yeah, as you can see, I am very interested in how reality is represented in the mind of man, and other epistemological 'issues'. Aristotle and ancient Greeks, including Homer, I enjoy reading and dissecting, though Plato is not a favorite of mine, including any neo-Platonic thought subsequent to his school.

              The French Revolution, Hegel and his return to dialectics, Kant and the non-thinking of Marx has been the bane of the progress that has stimulated the advance of mankind in the past 3,000 years. I fully intend to wipe any sort of Marxist, Leftist thought from the mind of man. It is malignant and malevolent.

              So as you can see, politics and government to a certain extent, except insofar as government relates to human involvement and interaction and intra-action, is not that much of interest.

              Just thought you would like to know where my priorities lie.

              Oh, and steam locomotives are among my most favorite things in the world.
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              • Posted by $ Commander 1 week, 2 days ago
                The poem above is from, arguably, the first comprehensive objective philosophical context, tao te' ching. Socrates and Lao Tzu were Eastern and Western contemporaries in exploring the objective nature of life and man.
                The only work of Rand's I will uptake is The Objectivist's Ethics. It is clean and concise. This is the simplicity beyond the complex of all her thinking, and the underpinning for all her work. Without one comprehending, understanding and applying the concepts, that they take on literal mortal meaning of human interactions, and the interactions of any sentient in the universe, there is no need to proceed into the subjectivity of all other philosophy. I spent 10 years trying to tear it apart, comparing it and integrating it with Tao. They mate well. Both these works caused me to face my bias and any potential of narcissistic or sociopathic behavior. This is not a journey for the timid. It is not over .....

                I study similar to you. I have worked for my self-interest or professionally in what I call the foundational five of human trade: Foraging, forestry, fisheries, farming and foundries. The physical sciences and social aspects of equitable trade govern these relationships. I deal with domestic and foreign companies, agencies, policy, monetary systems, etc. Self employed for 35 years and having no more than 5 employees at any time .... I have to wear all the "hats". I solve "Can't" when 90% of the time it is "Won't" for my customers, historically. Then I shrugged.

                Now I am involved with a loose consortium of about 100 folk, with some 1000 acres between us. We grow/raise 90% of our food, all heritage seed. I specialize in fruit tree pruning and general repairables, I work, maybe, 3 months a year to produce the same income prior ..... completely different work involving tangible repairables. My happiness is ten-fold increase. Just finished a fuel control, injectors and a clutch assemly on a 1972 Massey tractor today. My new work horse. Garlic needs planting before the snow flies, completing the annual farm cycle. This has allowed me to study, what I call the human dymanic, very closely for the past 4 years.

                Steam Locomotives being rare, I, at least, have annual steam tractor days in Edgar WI every summer. Next year project is to acquire a 20 to 25 HP steam engine ..... for the fun-ction of it!
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  • Posted by Lucky 1 week, 5 days ago
    Hi SpritWoman, Absolutely,
    Yes but many know this but it seems more are seduced by incomprehensible flows of long distorted words- similar to the word salads of a current aspiring politician.

    I agree with your comment that it is not just government at fault.
    My only suggestion for reducing that stuff in to reduce, cut, stop, government spending on culture and education - except possibly for young children. .

    Two examples stick in my mind:

    1. The Black Swan of Trespass
    Devised in 1943 (!) in Australia, "the greatest literary hoax of the 20th century."

    The creators opened books at random. chose haphazardly. nonsensical sentences. misquoted. bad verse. ..

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/greatest-po...

    2. Toward a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity
    by Alan Sokal

    He set out to bury postmodernism, not to praise it.
    But the journal editors fell heavily. The academic absurdities that Sokal punctured with surgical precision no longer strike one as particularly outré. If anything, they are now commonplace.


    https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1996...
    by Steven Weinberg
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    • Posted by $ 1 week, 5 days ago
      Thanks, Lucky. I'll look into them.

      I have an AIBot search engine that I can't seem to get rid of, and it often refers me to 'modern scholarship', which absolutely gags me. I argue with Bing/Copilot about this often, along with its insistence that something might be 'complex, multi-faceted, and nuanced'. I have told him if something is controversial, say so, but saying certain phenomena is complex, multi-faceted, and nuanced is putting a limit on your intelligence and ability to solve problems.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 1 week, 5 days ago
    There is so little understanding of what "service" to customers means (that is, the entire basis for civilization)
    in the USSA today, why should woke generations "scholarship" be more rational?
    (Note that customers are, in the case of government, the People who are supposed
    to also be the employer and the boss of all government.)
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    • Posted by $ 1 week, 5 days ago
      I guess I should expound on my reply to you. I'm not sure what you were referring to in your first sentence, but I feel scholarship is much more profound than a 'service' given to customers. Without scholarship there is no advance of culture and civilization. It is independent of any community or governmental organization or institution.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 1 week, 5 days ago
        If I understand your definition, I agree that "scholarship" is more profound.
        It appears more every day that the society here is so damaged by the actions of
        government and those who have corrupted government that they can't even do
        the basic services that our society did so well in the recent past.
        In my recent experience, there are far fewer people who care to do jobs well
        compared to the late 20th century.
        It's hardly surprising that the failure includes "scholarship".
        It's likely intentional to prevent the extent of corruption from being
        exposed and properly punished.
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        • Posted by $ 1 week, 5 days ago
          I think it is more than government. It is the actions of those institutions, public and private, that are capable of influencing others. These institutions have a responsibility to others and to themselves as much as any power or authority in the nation. You know whom I am referring to: media, including most importantly Hollywood, and Academia, those supported publicly and privately, like Columbia University and other Ivy League institutions.
          Because of their ability, right or wrong, to use their influence to sway others, more attention needs to be put on them and those who run them. For instance, the Pulitzer Prize as I have noted above, was given to a young black woman. The Pulitzers are administered by Columbia University, and a black woman is in charge of their distribution. This is the sort of influencing I am concerned about. Censorship by government is out of the question. In most historical periods speech can be returned for speech. But when speech is concealed by these very institutions, then that is no longer an option.

          You last observation that it may be intentional I am in total agreement with.
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        • Posted by $ 1 week, 5 days ago
          You may know this, but I would like to bring it up as an instance from the past when freedom and scholarship were not reduced to a form of 'government service'.

          Because of Galileo's fight with the Church, the motto of the newly established Royal Society of London became "In Nullius Verba", or 'On no one's authority but my own'. Government, like the Church, was not the ultimate purveyor of reality. Nor was there the same quantity and quality of propaganda five hundred years ago that we have to day, which propaganda came about for various reasons I won't go into now.

          I have said on another platform that the intentional concealment of truth for the personal gain of an individual or a group IS the abomination of desolation, especially in regard to historical 'truth'.
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          • Posted by freedomforall 1 week, 5 days ago
            "especially in regard to historical 'truth'."
            I think the first time my eyes were opened to propaganda overriding truth was when I was a child
            and my grandfather shared some of the hidden truth about D.C.'s (FDR's) foreknowledge of the
            attack on Pearl Harbor. The propaganda cover-up was complete about that event in public school "history."
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            • Posted by $ 1 week, 5 days ago
              I've heard that before, but I'm not sure that he did. At least, I have seen no evidence that is reliable. I understand the assets of the Japanese were frozen at that time, and there were Japanese envoys at the White House I believe either before, during or after Pearl Harbor.

              But you are right about one thing: I have never seen truth concealed in any historical period to the extent it has been concealed today. As the painter Jerome showed, Truth is emerging from her well with her whip to chastise mankind...
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              • Posted by freedomforall 1 week, 5 days ago
                If interested, read Robert Stinnett's Day of Deceit. It covers the Pearl Harbor evidence in detail. It may be available for free at archive.org.
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                • Posted by Dobrien 1 week, 5 days ago
                  Yes the evidence is abundant. War war war it’s the Prussia masters tool to keep is in debt and slavery. It has been going on for centuries .
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                  • Posted by $ 1 week, 5 days ago
                    Prussia masters, Mr. D? But war has been going along much longer than the existence of Pussia, in any of its forms.

                    The causes for war, are well, (and contrary to the devil master, Karl Marx), numerous. Economy has very little to do with the onset of 'war'.
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                    • Posted by freedomforall 1 week, 5 days ago
                      "Economy has very little to do with the onset of 'war'."
                      Please explain the major reason(s) for specific wars that are not economic.
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                      • Posted by $ 1 week, 5 days ago
                        In my Douglas Feith post I mentioned I read the book a couple of years ago; that's incorrect, it was more like about six or seven years ago. I have to admit I copied that from another post of mine I made on another platform about six years ago.
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                      • Posted by $ 1 week, 5 days ago
                        Concerning Abu Grabi:

                        "War and Decision" by Douglas Feith, published 4/8/2008

                        I checked this book out of the library a couple of months ago, but could read only a few passages, as it sickened me horribly. These are the main two reasons I find both the book an abomination, and Feith a psychopath:

                        1. The title of Chapter Three---I didn't read the chapter; the title was bad enough---"Change The Way We Live, or Change The Way They Live". A product of an unstable personality.

                        2. When he mentions Abu Ghraib, he mentions how sick he was when the photos were made public. He was not concerned with what was happening in that hell-hole, he was concerned only that now the world had proof that it was happening.

                        Feith is considered the architect of the second Iraq War.
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                        • Posted by freedomforall 1 week, 5 days ago
                          I don't buy the excuses that biased government agents write to cover their asses
                          for genocidal actions taken to expand or assure continued power for the fedgov
                          and continued USD dominance as the world's currency.
                          With very few exceptions, war is about controlling assets or repudiation of debt.
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                          • Posted by $ 1 week, 4 days ago
                            I'm not sure I understand your first sentence: 'biased government agents cover their asses for genocidal actions that are taken to expand or assure continued power for fedgov and continued USD dominance'.

                            No, I just now understood! But the cause for the second Iraq War is not entirely relevant to its effect. No matter why the U.S. warred against Iraq, the circumstances and situation at Abu Grabi have been humiliating enough to bring about one of the most organized terrorist organization ever. That was my sole point.

                            My paranoia was showing a bit there for a few minutes.
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                          • Posted by $ 1 week, 4 days ago
                            What is your explanation for Israel's causus bellum? I mean casus belli?
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                            • Posted by freedomforall 1 week, 4 days ago
                              Ostensibly a response to an attacking enemy that desires land (control of asset) that Israel occupies.
                              (The actual details may not be known for years.)
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                              • Posted by $ 1 week, 4 days ago
                                I see Israel as a blob, an amoeba that cannot stay within its own boundaries, and in the modern world boundaries ARE the solution, the only solution. When Israel learns that she does, in fact, have boundaries and that she must, in fact, stay within them, then talks can begin to act towards peace. At this point, Israel believes she is the only nation in the Middle East entitled to defend herself.

                                And by the way, what you hear about the cause of this war, that comes out through MSM and other low-rent information sources, is most likely inaccurate.
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                                • Posted by fairbro 1 week, 4 days ago
                                  There's an uninvited 3rd party - Iran - pouring kerosene on the fire- the conflict within Israel and with Lebanon and Hamas..

                                  Just as there's an uninvited 3rd party meddling in Ukraine-Russia affairs since 2014 (well, before that, but in 2014, the Deep State, under Obama/Victoria Nuland, got deadly serious).

                                  Most of these meddling parties ignore the Human Right of Self-Determination.
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                          • Posted by $ 1 week, 4 days ago
                            You're overlooking the very important part that human emotions play in conflict. And that, freedom, gets us into the most brutal of conflicts.

                            Man has known this for three thousand years or more, starting even with Homer and the Odyssey. Except it was called passion in those days.
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                            • Posted by freedomforall 1 week, 4 days ago
                              Yes, like greed and desire for power, again economic.
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                              • Posted by $ 1 week, 4 days ago
                                Power, yes. In fact, the roots of World War I, go right to the source: the search for a national identity amongst European nations and peoples became a quest for power: If we don't have power they will overwhelm us.

                                Greed, no. Rarely are wars fought over money. Trading replaced raiding early on in the growth of civilization; if raiding continued anywhere, which it did among the tribes of North America as well as among the Bedouins, it was more to show power than to gain wealth.

                                I can't overestimate this point. And it is the most ardent evidence against any Marxist thought that has ever erupted. The fantasy of a utopia where all people because all have the same stuff remain happy without conflict is only that, a fantasy. Wars are not fought for wealth. Or rarely fought for wealth.

                                In fact, competition among corporate bodies is not about greed, but about power and influence. You may not see that, because it is hidden. And it is hidden because the small people---'the little guy' won't buy any other reason. Marx appeals to the liberals because they think it is about greed.
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                                • Posted by freedomforall 1 week, 4 days ago
                                  The original comment is about "economy", not solely "money"
                                  My translation: Control of assets (and debt)
                                  Examples:
                                  bankers in every war since banking started (loaning money to both sides of every conflict)
                                  the MIC (providing arms is very profitable when its not in your neighborhood)
                                  Japan in WW2
                                  Germany in WW2
                                  USA in every military action since WW2
                                  USA in Ukraine coup (which arguably caused Ukraine War)
                                  Nearly every victor benefits economically which results in power
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                                • Posted by $ 1 week, 4 days ago
                                  But I want to make sure you understand that when I say it is about power, I am simplifying it, because certainly the complexity of conflict is greater than that. But power is the main component. It is rarely, very rarely, about wealth or economy. The Leftists want you to believe that, of course.
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                      • Posted by $ 1 week, 5 days ago
                        Also, (this is a big thing with me, because humiliation of that sort cannot go unanswered, as it could not in Abu Ghrabi, either) I read an interesting book about Clemenceau, written by a former aide to him, consisting of conversation this aide had with Clemenceau during the twenties. Clemenceau is noted as saying something to the effect that he could see no reason that black troops in the Rhineland would be any more of a problem than any other. The book is "Clemenceau the Events of His Life as Told by Himself to His Former Secretary Jean Martet."

                        Internet Archive is down today, but these books and others can be found on their platform.
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                      • Posted by $ 1 week, 5 days ago
                        Let's go with the biggie. Ever hear of the "Black Horror on the Rhine"? The occupation of the Rhineland by French Colonel Manchin's "La Force Noir", consisting of Senegalese troops? An English news source at the time wrote about it, and I found a reference to it in Jstor, where the historian argued that France perhaps paid for that imposition. (Actually, there was a good video on youtube, put out by the government of Germany, of Hitler's---his generals--- conference with the French at their capitulation in I think it was 1940. Hitler used the very same rail car, and it was parked at the very same place as the armistice that Germany signed on Novermer 11, 1918.) At any rate, Clemenceau was in America following the Civil War and toured the South during that period of imposition of 'Reconstruction'. Clemenceau KNEW the humiliation and (excuse me, I get sick every time I think about this) degradation it would bring to the defeated German soldiers and people, and did it for the sole purpose of revenge and out of hatred. Clemenceau was not a nice person.

                        (A good book, a primary source, probably concealed by many main stream 'academics' but now available, is "The Prostrate State, South Carolina under Negro Government" by James Shepherd Pike, published 1874. Pike was originally a northern abolitionist, but changed his thinking, as many northerners did when viewing the South fairly. Other books and articles can be found on Jstor, some regarding Kentucky during Reconstruction. Kentucky was hard hit, even though it had tried to remain neutral during the Civil War.)
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                    • Posted by Dobrien 1 week ago
                      After a deep dig on Karl Marx, the origins of his philosophy, the world in which he was part of and the true nature of events surrounding revolutions, the legend of Karl Marx appears as manufactured as the MSM narrative around the 2020 election. With a basic understanding of Prussian “kultur”, it seems almost impossible that anything Marx did was not without the knowledge and consent of the Prussian government. When you dig deeper you can see that Marx was nothing more than an agent of Prussia, carrying out orders to infiltrate, subvert and eventually weaponize communism for the benefit of the Prussian kingdom.

                      “Infiltration instead of invasion.”
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                      • Posted by $ 6 days, 23 hours ago
                        Well, Mr. D., I would classify that piece of 'information' as possible unproven conspiracy theory, for several reasons. One being that Prussian kultur at the time was undergoing much in the way of change and evolution, due to Napoleon's former dissolution of the Habsburg Empire---the HRE---and the reconstruction needed to get the 'national identity' of the German people off the ground again. I'm sure I'd find other reasons, but this Prussian mouthpiece story seems untenable.

                        But then, when we become 'unburdened by the past', anything is possible!!
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 1 week, 1 day ago
    Agreed, the worst of them, in MHO, is the 1619 project. It is so vividly clear that the model for America was the lessons learned and the intent of the Pilgrims, not Jamestown .Virginia in the years prior to 1620.
    1619 was the plan of the Global Delete going forward even though it failed miserably.

    Mankind's liberty and prosperity has been attacked since our days ending in Babylon.
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    • Posted by $ 1 week, 1 day ago
      You might be interested in an article "Radical Chic, That Party at Lennie's", written in the seventies by Tom Wolfe, I found it in Kindle along with a strange article by the same author, something about mau-mauing. Anyway it's about a party, a real party that actually happened at Leonard Bernstein's, for the benefit of Black Panthers, etc., and pretty much shows the intent of some to use the black folk of America.
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    • Posted by $ 1 week, 1 day ago
      The colonialization, founding and forming of America was purely an English endeavor. And the winning of the West was the same. I've read much of the history---primary sources---and have more to read for sure.

      Hannah-Jones has engaged in what Piaget so clearly calls interpretational mania or imaginary reasoning. I won't even read it. I heard Dennis Prager---used to listen to him six or seven years ago before I more or less 'left the cesspool'---not Prager, I rather like him, and he talked about it, along with information about the "Jewish Left" and how they have accused Anglo-Saxons of being genocidal maniacs. Nothing gets my dander up more than ingratitude. It is a trait I despise, and I ask them, who will save your sorry souls the next time you find yourselves in the dock?!!

      Columbia University you know is the school of choice for wealthy New York Jews to send their progeny to for indoctrination.

      There, got that off my chest. All you gotta do for one of my rants is mention the distortion of historical truth the Left has done.
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      • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 1 week, 1 day ago
        It all started during the fall of Babylon . . . they noticed and speculated that we would threaten their seats of power so they: (Nimrod and others in power) went down and confounded our language (and everything else along the way) lest, nothing be impossible unto us.

        Always Remember: "We are the Elite on the Street" ruled by the great unwashed.
        also:
        Yes, our curiosity got us in trouble, learning things we were not ready for but note: In physical life, if achieving the best we were meant to be was to be so damn easy, there would have been No reason for a dramatic physical demonstration of Forgiveness . . .

        . . . CTJ The Fight for Conscious Human Life©
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        • Posted by $ 1 week, 1 day ago
          Well, I'm not one to believe biblical interpretations literally.

          But I will tell you that man is imperfect; he cannot with 100% surety know what is going to happen in the future, as does the Creator. This unawareness of the future causes fear and anxiety. Hence, he 'sins' or does what may be harmful, to him or others. But like I said, I don't like to talk about religion on political forums.
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          • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 1 week, 1 day ago
            Not really religious, The OT is history. But my point was: It was political and it was not the creator that confounded our language etc etc, it was the Nephilim and the Nephilim Hybrids. They had No conscience and they knew that mankind was destined for something they did not have
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            • Posted by $ 1 week, 1 day ago
              Actually, carl, I see this story, like many others in the OT (not the historical parts, and yes I agree there is much that is historical, but presented in a way that made sense to the people of the time) but some stories are remnants of a more primitive 'religion', possibly an animism of sorts or some type of mythological precursor to the time of Abraham in Sumeria.
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    • Posted by $ 1 week, 1 day ago
      Well, no matter how Hannah-Jones thinks, she is always wrong anyway. If she has misinterpreted the founding of Jamestown and its colonists, then she should not be in university anyway.
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  • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 week, 2 days ago
    After 35 years in academia, retirement felt like early release from prison.
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    • Posted by $ 1 week, 2 days ago
      Gee, and here I thought all my college professors were delighted to be teaching me!! I didn't know it was a chore. Maybe in your case it was all that research that was done at the prompting of certain 'others'!

      But more seriously, when did you teach? Or that is, have you retired recently?
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      • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 week, 1 day ago
        I worked in a R&D lab, engineering.
        Mostly DoD stuff. Radar, Lidar, Optics, Sat-Comms, Encryption, a lot of digital signal processing (DSP),.
        But also civilian doppler weather radar, and IFF (identification friend or foe)
        We did partner with Zenith on the first fully digital HDTV prototype.
        And yes, I did retire early.
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        • Posted by $ 1 week, 1 day ago
          But you worked at university? You said academia, but large defense corporations have R&D. Like Martin Marietta here in Colorado, which then merged with Lockheed.
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          • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 week, 1 day ago
            MIT
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            • Posted by $ 1 week, 1 day ago
              Cool!! Things going on there during WWII! Radar, that sort of stuff, using math to configure or whatever you call it locations of stuff!

              When I was about 13 or 14, my dad was in radar school at Ft. Sill, this was about 1957. I studied his army textbooks and friends of mine in Academia now, at the present, believe that is where I really got interested in electricity and electrical phenomena and wave equations. I wanted to do what my Dad did. I mean I couldn't go with him and brother when they did boy scout stuff, but I could learn electronics.
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              • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 week, 1 day ago
                The Laboratory was an awesome place to work. Great projects. Great people... but campus ran the HR department and set all policy.
                As any institution goes, they tend to be (small "l") liberal, but as time went on, they got more and more woke.
                The Institutes premier magazine: "MIT Technology Review" became less and less about technology and more leftist political, spewing all manner of lies and dubious "facts", be it elections, climate, transgenderism, basic income, bugs for food, DEI, how much more perfect the EU is than us.... fill in the marxist/communist/NWO blank.
                Loved the Lab. Hated the management, to the point where I retired early.
                Had to. My mouth was getting me in hot water.
                I couldn't listen to the BS and stay silent any longer.
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                • Posted by $ 1 week, 1 day ago
                  "Dubious" is too kind a word to use for these absurd and so-called 'premises'.

                  My husband worked for EPA, from its origin in 1971 until he retired in 1995, and felt the same way. (By the way, EPA started out as a legitimate agency I believe, but of course as all Federal agencies and some state agencies, were turned malevolently and unreasonably to liberal/socialist methods of control). My husband loved the work---he was one who would not close down a factory or some such for idiotic reasons---but couldn't take the desk jockey supervision. When he retired he was head of the criminal investigation unit of EPA, I can't remember his exact title, but there were both civil and criminal instances of environmental destruction, and most men alternated between the two. I think his title had to do with "National Enforcement and Investigations Center"; he was also often called as an expert witness.
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                • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 week, 1 day ago
                  A good example of the schism that can occur is the MITER corporation. (MIT Engineering Research).
                  In the 1960's MIT students were protesting MITER's involvement the certain three-letter agencies.
                  They demanded MITER be dissolved or divorce themselves from campus.
                  They made such stink, MITER chose the latter.
                  Good thing they didn't look too closely at what Draper Labs or White Hall was up to.
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  • Posted by $ Commander 1 week, 2 days ago
    Hegel lives on in the minds who know him not.

    John Gatto (Dumbing Us Down) points out the last hold-out to the compulsory schooling of the Prussian modeled Volkschule/Realschule was in 1888 in Massachusetts. This begins the formal undermining of scholarly endeavor.

    If you'd care, a very good series of essays regarding Hegelian dialectic, amongst other historical "pushes" on cultural behavioralism can be found in Substack.
    Will Zoll, for starts: https://prussiagate.substack.com/p/wh...
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    • Posted by $ 1 week, 2 days ago
      I'm not into philosophy, thanks anyway.

      I'm busy in the meantime reading Piaget, his first work on "Language and Thought of Children", published 1923, shortly after the Great War.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 1 week, 3 days ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, Huguenots were French Protestants when the Catholic Church was intolerant of such a thing in France.
    Brits were intolerant of any religion that was not the Church of England.
    I reckon that's why they fled France and got kicked out of Canada by the Brits.
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    • Posted by $ 1 week, 2 days ago
      Isn't today the day we celebrate that cool intrepid adventurer/entrepreneur that set out in three small caravels to find the kingdom of Kublai Khan, and wound up finding two new continents and changed the world forever?
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    • Posted by $ 1 week, 2 days ago
      Well, that was back in the day, was it not? Interesting, I think it was because of the St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre by the King and Queen of France. Prior to that, Protestants had some freedom of worship in France. I'm not sure what happened, then, might take a deeper "look-see" some day.
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      • Posted by $ allosaur 1 week, 2 days ago
        I was as an infant baptized as a Catholic. Way after I became an adult, some jerk on the internet told me I cannot be a nondenominational Protestant due to that baptism, I had to be a Catholic because I was baptized a Catholic. Period! Last thing I told him was I am free to do what I want.
        During the Fifties in Dothan, Alabama, I and other little Catholic kids had to Summertime attend two weeks of classes run by three visiting nuns.
        I'll never forget one nun telling my class that Martin Luther burns in hell and shall burn in hell forever and ever.
        Also recall Father Jones entering that classroom and saying that he lost is wallet and was about to search for it right there in a building that was beside the church. Our nun teacher had us pray for God to help Father Jones to find his wallet. Then Father Jones stepped on to two classrooms instructed by the other two nuns.
        A short time later a smiling Father Jones returned with the wallet he said he had found.
        A couple of years later Father Jones began to show signs of having mental problems, especially when it came to blessing communion wafers during a mass.
        He would be shaking all over as he knelt stuttering his Latin. Last I ever heard of him is that he had checked into some funny farm.
        That's about when I grew old enough to realize that wallet I had been made to pray for him to find just had to be a scam.
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        • Posted by $ 1 week, 2 days ago
          I, too, was baptized a Catholic. My mother had converted to marry my Italian father and I was raised Catholic. My maiden name is DeMaria, actually.
          But getting to college I attended Junior Newman club, and I was beginning to question religion---not God---as all adolescents do and should do. I got into an argument with a visiting Jesuit priest about free will and pre destination; after about twenty minutes he finally told me it was something I had to accept on faith. Well, I never accept anything on faith, and kept looking for an answer until finally I realized it isn't free will and pre destination, but PRE-will and FREE destination, which really makes more sense.
          After that, I have belonged to no religion, but have studied many.
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          • Posted by $ allosaur 1 week, 2 days ago
            LOL! My father converted from being a Lutheran to marry my Catholic mother. Small world, huh?
            Dad's only sibling married a Lutheran preacher. Visiting my family, he saw watching Captain Kirk on his bridge hand-to-hand fighting some human or humanoid trying to destroy the Enterprise. Uncle Roland thought it best to lecture me that fighting was the wrong way to resolve differences. I found that very amusing while politely keeping a straight face.
            My mother's name was Menchion, which is French. That does not mean she was not descended from the Acadian Protestants. All kinds of intermarriages had to take place since way back then. I would not be surprised to learn I had some American Indian genes buy I'm not paying anyone to find out.
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            • Posted by $ 1 week, 2 days ago
              Well, you know what Kenny Rogers said: "Sometimes you have to fight to be a man"---Coward of the County.

              But of course if solutions to problems can be found without open and brutal conflict, so much the better.

              I have heard it said though, that war is the ultimate tribunal.
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  • Posted by $ 1 week, 3 days ago in reply to this comment.
    Iran was uninvited? Are you sure?

    If the uninvited third party in Ukraine you're referring to is the U.S., I'll tell you right now unequivocally that Obamma under the direction of his string pullers was responsible for the Maidan color revolution in the fall of 2013, as well as the coup that replaced Yanukovich with Poroshenko. I actually know this for a fact.

    As for the "Human Right of Self-Determination" and here I believe you're referring to the Wilson Doctrine as put forward in his 14 points, I always refer to it as the 'Wilson Fallacy'. Many people, if not most, peoples of the world are not all that capable of understanding either freedom or responsibility in government.
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    • Posted by fairbro 1 week, 3 days ago
      Iran invited itself, one might say, just as the US invited itself to the Ukraine affair.

      Iran and the US of course, deny any responsibility, and China is also covert with their actions vis-a-vis Taiwan,

      Let the residents of Taiwan determine their own future.

      One of the reasons Crimeans voted 98% to rejoin Russia was the 4x increase in their pensions. LOL!

      But Ukraine, when I was in Donbass, doing business is impossible, if you want to keep your ethics in. You have to make regular payoffs to everybody from local security to the Mayor's son (a brave local newspaper was doing on expose on corruption when I was in Lugansk in 2012). .
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    • Posted by fairbro 1 week, 3 days ago
      My def. of "self-determinism": "that state of being where in the individual can or cannot be controlled by his environment according to his own choice." So after the violent overthrow of the legitimately-elected government in Kiev in 2014, engineered by Victoria Nuland under Secretary Clinton and Obama, and with the first act of the new Deep State-installed puppet government was to ban the Russian language (I was in Donbass in 2012, and never spoke a word of Ukr. only Russian), church and culture, the residents of Donbass exercised their "Right of Self-Determination" and declared their independence.

      What you may not know is that all of the Youtube videos documenting war crimes by the Ukrainians bombing Donbass civilians, strafing sidewalks with women and children at the market shopping, they even bombed an Orphanage, for God's sake, were censored and deleted by Google in 2015.
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  • Posted by fairbro 1 week, 4 days ago
    My current favorite is Jill Biden's Thesis, the paper she wrote to qualify for. and be awarded, a doctorate (PH.D.).

    Anybody read it? Yeah it's boring. Mostly it's a "study" of why her Alma Mater, the university she was attending at the time, is a great place to go to school. Supporting documentation - "evidence" - consists of interviews with her dormmates! LOL!
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    • Posted by $ 1 week, 4 days ago
      I thought Jill Biden was a doctor. A medical doctor.

      But anyway, that tells us much about how colleges and universities determine grades, etc.

      I have taken university classes off and on for over forty years, just for the pleasure of learning things I had to learn. Each time I went back, (first was in the early sixties) the early 1970's, then from 1980 to late eighties, then late 1990's and early 2000's, I found the classes more adapted to simpler minds, tests were easier, and homework was sometimes not required at all.

      Finally in around 2013 to the present, when I am actually 'tutoring' instead of 'learning', I used a revamped text in physics that I had used in the '80's. This book had been so dumbed down that problems were solved by using rules, not reason. When I asked why this was so, I was told that black students had complained the texts were too difficult.

      (The text in question is Halliday and Resnick's Physics, but I can't remember who edited the book. I was, and am, pretty angry about it.)
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      • Posted by fairbro 1 week, 4 days ago
        Even Deep State poodle Wikipedia admits the false narrative: "In December 2020, an op-ed piece by writer Joseph Epstein in The Wall Street Journal, which urged the incoming First Lady to drop the "Dr." from her preferred form of address because she is not a medical doctor, was met with a widespread backlash, especially among professional women." She has a PHD in Education. I would love to be teacher, in creative writing, or mathematics (my degree), but I could not sit through one class in the Social Sciences, which are required for the certificate. Maybe I should program macro's and AI my way remotely through the courses....

        The summer before I was a freshman at the uiniversity, we were mandated to read "The Territorial Imperative" by Robert Ardrey. This book put a gloomy outlook on life, convinced me human beings are just animals and will always group and struggle. This ennui & despair was then buttressed by what I "learned" in psychology, sociology, anthropology, etc. Yes, now I was another gatekeeper of the "Insider Knowledge" - man is but a spiritless animal.
        Such ennui and nihilism guided me down the well-beaten wrong path for 15 years.

        One day I met my lead singer from a NY rock band (I am a keyboardist) while gassing up in Tampa, Florida (how weird is that, to meet a good friend while both of you are 1000 miles away from home?). He enthusiastically told me to visit the Scientology Mission there in Tampa, and the next day I found a gold necklace on the sidewalk (yes, really!), which I converted for the $25 to take their Communication course. I had tried every religion, but nothing worked, nothing made sense, until this. They helped me overcome my self-doubts and, years later, now I am "free" from the dismal Social Sciences to succeed and be happy. Like MLK said, judge me by my character (as an individual, not as a member of a group). Human Beings are unique and sacred individuals. Categorizing people into groups and rejecting everything religion has taught us since the dawn of recorded history has negated and corroded the religious-moral-ethical foundations of our civilization.
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        • Posted by $ 1 week, 3 days ago
          And one last thing, fairbro, MLK said his dream was that someday people would judge others 'by their character, not the color of their skin'. He did not mention groups of any kind IN THAT STATEMENT.

          But most black folk will, even if you judge them by character, accuse you of being racist if you state that it is their character you don't like. To them, you are still a racist. I firmly believe, and have proof, that the mind of a Negro is similar to that of a child.
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        • Posted by $ 1 week, 3 days ago
          I'm not sure I believe anything you just now wrote. For one, how do you reconcile Scientology with any of Rand's works?

          You are correct, all humans are unique individuals, and all humans share traits in common. However, the DNA structure in humans allow for classification on that basis. Not completely, but mostly. Have you had your own DNA analyzed?

          And two, oh yeah, Aristotle was sooooo wrong with his categorization and differentiation techniques in his Organon.
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          • Posted by fairbro 1 week, 3 days ago
            I don't want to "evaluate" LOL! what you are writing, but it seems you have accumulated a ton of knowledge in diverse areas, (me too, I went to 7 different colleges/universities) but have not quite integrated it all into a "grand order." Maybe because you can't decide what is "really" true when presented with opposing views from different sources which you believe are both true?

            MLK "implied" that people should be treated as individuals ("character" refers to a person's individual moral and ethical qualities), not as groups (by their common skin color (or any other physical/social characteristic)).

            Just as we don't treat all Russians as the same, all women as the same, all young people as the same, all football players as the same, all dogs as the same, etc.

            One can either believe in the social sciences or believe in the spiritual nature of a human being. It depends on how one defines what a "human being" is.

            The Social Sciences define a human being as a body plus a mind. Religion defines a person as a
            boy plus a mind plus a spirit. These two positions are self-contradictory.

            A priest will attempt to improve a human being by addressing the spirit. Spiritual counseling. A social scientist will likewise attempt human rehabilitation, by going through the body (psychotropic drugs).

            These two positions are incompatible. There is a basic difference here - the fundamental definition of what is a human being. He's either a spiritual being or a material organism.

            However, most Westerners think they can combine what they have learned from the social sciences with what they have learned from Religion.

            Unfortunately, one can not pound a square peg into a round hole, without breaking the whole apparatus.

            I'm not saying what we have learned from the Social Sciences is useless. I am saying that Religion is the basis of our civilization. Toss that into the dumpster, and we have social problems.

            I'm sure I could find a thousand "reconciliations" of Hubbard and Rand, and that might help me be more cogent in a book I want to write, but still looking for a co-author to present the Social Sciences POV..
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        • Posted by mccannon01 1 week, 1 day ago
          Don't know why you're getting down voted on your posts so I bumped them back up. You bring useful perspectives to the table.

          With that said, can I jump off subject for a moment to ask a question? I see you say you are a keyboardist. I took my first piano lesson at nearly age 69 and I'm 72 now and still toughing it out. I'm not good but refuse to give up (I can play a good Star Spangled Banner on a Hammond M3 at lodge, though). One of my biggest problems is achieving left-hand right-hand separation where the left is trying to do a rhythm, rather than a chord, and the right is trying to do a melody. No problem doing one or the other alone, but crash and burn when doing them together. For example, the Mission Impossible theme has that cool rhythm on the left and seemingly simple melody on the right. I have no problem doing either, but combined -poof-. Are you willing to share any tips or ideas?
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          • Posted by fairbro 1 week, 1 day ago
            I know what you mean. I have same problem playing Boogie Woogie, the left hand is a
            "walking bass" or the "foundation", with the right I am free to improvise but can not always syncopate/synchronize..

            Start with the left hand, get that down COLD, it's the Foundation. Play it by itself, until you can play it with your eyes closed or looking and smiling at nearby people.

            Then add the Right Hand, a little at a time, just a couple of measures at first. Small steps. Play it at half-speed maybe, until you get comfortable, until you are confident.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y_YM...

            at 4:20, she kinds of briefly describes how she puts it together. She is sort of looking at the keys, but you want to get to where you only need to look at the melody part, the Left hand going autonomously.

            Remember your hands should be positioned as if you are gripping a baseball, don't flatten your fingers.

            Following the suggested fingering? If it says 12312, don't play the easier way and go 12345. Might work for a while but will get you in trouble later on, when you trying to render Beethoven!

            I prefer piano for boogie woogie, the fingers respond to the weight of the keys, but of course one can not get the majestic sounds of the Hammond B-3 out of a piano. We use to cut off the top of the Leslie cabinet and paint the spinning (tweeter) speakers in Day-Glo paints
            as part of the show.

            I am older than you, but once you learn something on the keyboard it stays with you forever! Good Luck!

            What I don't understand is how a drummer can have two hands and two feet doing 4 things....
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            • Posted by mccannon01 1 week ago
              Thank you soooo much!!! Love Boogie Woogie! That young lady in the video is fantastic - ha, in my dreams maybe I'll play that good. Worth aspiring to, though, and I'll keep trying.

              The lodge organ is a 1957 Hammond M3 (not B3, but very similar) with a great sound. Our organist passed away and nobody could play it so it sat in the corner for a couple of years and I figured why don't I learn to play it? Off I went - The Star Spangled Banner is the first song I learned. When I could play that I rewarded myself with an 88-key Nord Stage 3 to play at home. I added a MIDI keyboard on top of that to simulate the dual manuals of the Hammond. The setup certainly outclasses me, but I figured I'd grow into it. Lots of growing to do but I get discouraged with the left/right separation thing. More practice I guess and I plan to stay with it.

              Oh, my music instructor is a great drummer and all around percussionist so I know what you mean about drummers. He's got the patience of a saint working with me, LOL.

              Again, thanks for the reply!
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  • Posted by $ 1 week, 4 days ago in reply to this comment.
    One last thing, freedom, before I quit for the day. If you know how the U.S. Constitution was formulated, you will understand our founders put parchment barriers into the constitution to check power, not greed. Parchment barriers replaced the conflicts that plagued Europe for 2,000 years, as conflict was seen as the only means to check power. By the last quarter of the 18th century the realization that a charter could be written to check power had dawned.

    And also, by that time, it was mostly admitted that zeal for knowledge could replace zeal for battle, but that's an entirely different issue!
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    • Posted by j_IR1776wg 1 week, 4 days ago
      "...By the last quarter of the 18th century the realization that a charter could be written to check power had dawned..."

      Wasn't that the Magna Charta of 1215 as amended? https://www.britannica.com/topic/Magn...
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      • Posted by $ 1 week, 4 days ago
        Yes, exactly. That was only the beginning, though. I believe it was 1215, and was formed mostly with the help of William Marshall, and instigated by the problems with 'Good King John'.

        Montesquieu much admired the English system of constitutional government, and that was about the mid 18th century. If you've ever read his "Spirit of the Laws", you can see how fastidious he was in categorizing forms of government that he observed around the world. It took about 2,000 years and many different types of inputs to form that document we call the U.S. Constitution. It wasn't something that happened overnight.

        In the high Middle Ages, a charter was the precursor to a constitution.
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  • Posted by $ 1 week, 4 days ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, but the conflict is ABOUT power; wealth is only a means of demonstrating power. The wealthy wear and show their riches, not because it feels good physically, but because it demonstrates their power. A couple of examples:

    The Native Americans 'counted coup', taking scalps from the enemy in battle. Taking it from one still living was considerably more honorable than one who was dead. And their incessant raiding was for the same intention: to show what Europeans early on referred to in themselves as 'prowess'; the honor in achieving what others could not and this resulted in power over them. (If you want to go back about 3,000 years, the Trojan War was fought over who won the greatest prize: who was to get the 'best girl'---now watch the feminists start up!)

    And during Renaissance Europe, if you see many paintings, a man's wealth was prominently displayed either on him or around him. (And this included prelates as well.)

    Power is an addiction, I should say wielding power is the addiction, and the demonstration of power is also a necessary adjunct to the selection of those who are to wield it.

    Never overlook the gaining of power, and its use, in the affairs of men. And that is as much an addiction as alcohol. Not all men, however, will have that addiction. It is said of Washington that he could be trusted with power because he knew when to relinquish it.

    And something else, in Communist USSR, when all, even the Kulaks, had the same as any other, supposedly, those in power had more. The bureaucrats had power, and demonstrated it.
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  • Posted by $ 1 week, 4 days ago in reply to this comment.
    I have the same problem. I could explain to myself when others do not understand that it is because they have not yet reached my level of intellect, but I soon find myself in the old 'pride goeth before a fall' situation.

    This has been a good conversation, freedom. But I must take a break now.
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