I can certainly believe it. There have been assassination attempts in prior generations, and the division in this country right now is the highest since John Wilkes Booth.
Oh, yeah, Squeaky Fromme, a member of the Manson Family tried to take Ford out. Thanks, I forgot about that. I just checked up on her, and good grief, she's been paroled.
Do you know if the person was someone in the crowd, or was it the shooter? I've heard a couple comments on TV that some people heard two "sets" of shots, and there was speculation that the second set was the Secret Service taking down the gunman.
Teachable moment for my kids. The marxist, globalist, leftists are very violent and pro-death. Look at JFK as an example. Connecting with Khrushchev? Reportedly making peace with Cuba? Going after organized crime and talking openly about a force in the nation wanting to "enslave" us?....Ended up with his brains all over the trunk of the Cadillac. All the way up to Biden...talking on July 8th about putting Trump in the crosshairs....These people are disgusting. They're evil.
Unfortunately, with what they're learning in "schools" these days and what they see in the media, and with what they've seen the past few years (Antifa, BLM, "mostly peaceful" demonstrations, etc.), I'm afraid they've learned that what happened last night is justified: You know, the ends justify the means.
The shooter was on top of an AGR International building (near top right of following map). Trump was at the Butler Farm Show Grounds (near bottom left of map roughly 200 yards away). See map at https://www.google.com/maps/place//@4... I put the map together myself using Google maps.
FWIW -- just saw a BBC interview (posted on Facebook) with a man who claimed he was ignored when he notified police/Secret Service that a man was climbing the AGR building with a rifle.
One of my guys is a Army Colonel, ranger trained, but logistics now in the reserves. May make O7! Anyhow, he says basic has been 300m for at least 30 years. No idea about 1965, nether of us was around then. <100 yards, you might as well be using a bayonet!
Everything I've heard indicates that the shooter was on the roof of a building with a line of sight to the podium. Maybe I'm being naive, but isn't it the job of the Secret Service to secure any possible sniper position?
(Donning my tin foil hat again...)
Is it possible that someone in the Secret Service was part of a conspiracy to have Trump assassinated, and his job was to make sure that possible sniper's nest wasn't secured?
You are not the only one wondering about possible agency involvement. There is one interview with a Canadian sniper where exactly this question was raised.
In JFK's case, it involved the CIA and possibly the FBI as well - what a coincidence? This whole affair brings back bad memories from long ago and how similar Saturday almost was.
Maybe someone said "Well Hell, we can't manufacture enough votes to beat him, and all of our lawfare attempts are failing (e.g., the classified docs case was dismissed this morning b/c Jack Smith wasn't legally appointed, and the judge in his NY trial committed probably half dozen errors that any one of them would be grounds for a mistrail), so I guess the only way he doesn't win is if he doesn't run. And bingo: We have Saturday's events.
By the way, the snipers were instructed NOT to shoot until assassin takes first shot. Now, in a multi-shot volley, which shot is likely to be the most accurate?
I guess this brings us back to the issues of incompetence or complicit. His primary group was replaced at the last minute with a substitute group, and then two were redirected to protect Jill elsewhere.
Indeed. Their job is to deflect the narrative away from Trump and on to anything else. Gun control is right up their alley. This is likely a good call, jbrenner.
I'll admit I was astonished that Trump was allowed to live through his entire first term. The only thing about this occurrence that surprised me was that the shooter didn't accomplish his goal.
Something really stinks. Why wasn't that one roof the sniper selected being watched? (Ahem, or was it?). Why were the people who saw him skulking around with a rifle on that roof ignored by police?
I know everyone in positions of power will do their level best to ignore what they find. Maybe I'm being naive, but I think this one will be too big to hide.
My conspiracy generator is working overtime over the past 15 hours; I've actually come up with two ways that the Dumbs can use this against Trump.
One, they can keep ramming the following headline down our throats: "The shooter was a Republican; even THEY don't want Trump to be president."
Two, this could be the chance Buydem needs to leave the race, citing "threats of retaliation by MAGA extremists". Nobody would ever have to expand on those threats; rather than doing their jobs and ferreting out the truth, the MSM would simply parrot what the White House says, and once again, we would look like the bad guys, even though it was our candidate who got shot.
Geez, I need to shut this generator off; maybe I need to start drinking again. (Just kidding; that ain't gonna happen, not after almost 11 years.)
I don't doubt for a minute that many leftists with TDS already believe that Trump planned the attempted assassination. How long before CNN states that as fact? It certainly is a fantastic photograph of defiant Trump. CNN and the media will never be able to understand that.
You're right about CNN; literally a few hours after the assassination attempt, a CNN reporter was lamenting that Trump said "Fight! Fight"! as he was being led off stage.
Jamie Gangel is the reporter; here's her comment, along with the link.
"I do want to say there was one thing that when I watched the tape, I found odd because of all of the heated rhetoric, and that is after he was hit, former President Trump got up and said, ‘fight, fight, fight,’" Gangel said.
"I think what we’re hearing from people is that’s not the message that we want to be sending right now. We want to tamp it down," she said.
So, in a nutshell, she's not pissed that someone took a shot at Trump; she's pissed that Trump reacted by not rolling over and figuratively playing dead.
If there was a license required to be a journalist, hers would be revoked.,
The body of Crooks was taken from the rooftop. He was not carrying identification. The Federal Bureau of Investigation and the United States Department of Justice National Security Division opened investigations into the shooting and confirmed the shooter's identity via fingerprint biometrics and DNA profiling.
so how did they have fingerprints and DNA?? "He had no known criminal record."
maybe fingerprints from a gun permit, my state unconstitutionally takes those
I have no criminal record (other than a couple speeding tickets, and one isn't printed for those), but very early in my career I worked as a civilian computer programmer for the Indianapolis Police Department. I was printed as part of the hiring process, so if someone ran my prints, there would probably be a hit. But my, oh my, wasn't Wiki updated quickly?
I had my prints taken when I obtained my CPA license, and a few more times when I got and renewed my concealed carry license. So...if ever I do something really stupid, they've got the goods on me.
Interesting that fingerprints are not required for a Passport. I just renewed mine and have never had my fingers blotted with ink. But! You have to handle the documents, you have to send in your old Passport - therefore handling the booklet. Hmmmm.....
This whole thing is, of course, completely over the top and spinning faster than a cyclotron. Not this post, but the wider topic.
As in Occam's Razor the inevitable conclusion is pointing towards an inside job....again.
But it will never be concluded as such. The minute I heard that the FBI and Congress will "investigate", "get to the bottom of this", so that "it must never happen again", I knew the truth is out of reach.
Even characters in the public pundit circles are saying: "they scandalized him", "they impeached him twice", "they tried to bankrupt him", "they tried to jail him", "they lawfared him", "now, they tried to kill him"......
!!!!!! Holy %$^#! Did everyone just hear that? "They, they, they". Everyone knows and are stating the obvious. And no one goes there and acknowledges what is even publicly "Top of Mind". Nor the obvious of who and what "they" are. And it will once again end up as a dead lone gunman - an addled, disgruntled, disillusioned youth. With access to assault weapons. Of course. And off it goes once again into the ever never land of plausible deniability/deniable plausibility and will always be a media induced blind spot in the public consciousness.
Disregard the timing. Disregard the fact that after this week as a candidate, his VP successor will be established, his position as officially nominated candidate of the Republican Party will be complete. Ostensibly, his allotted Secret Service coverage increases by definition.
Only about two weeks ago, my wife and I were out doors in the chairs late at night talking about how this is going to go. I said "they" will get him. It is that "at all costs" thing. Don't know how, but it will be an inside job through Secret Security. My proposed mechanism was infiltrated moles in his Secret Service protection would sabotage Trump Force One and the aircraft will crash in fiery finality. But one can pose all kinds of ways. The imagination has no limits when it comes to the possible realities.
Geez, For the thousandth time in a lifetime, can it get anymore interesting?
I share the sentiment of many of the older generations. It brought back old emotions I had long forgotten following the Kennedy assassination. As an 8 year old, my understanding came through not the words, but the demeanor of the adults. The palpable sense of horror crystallizing into the cascade of expressed emotions of how the world will never be the same again.
I saw it unfold live. Those moments when he was down before rising back up and signaling he was OK were horrible with waves of those old memories.
And today, as I am approaching 70, it has a long way to go and is nowhere near over. From the Lord of The Rings: "You cannot choose the times that you live in, but must make the best of the time given to you." These are the times that try one's soul.
Good description--erasure machine. I think it's being duplicated and sold to any leftist whacko who has TDS or "save our democracy" syndrome (hitherto be known as SODS.) Keep your head on a swivel and your powder dry until the time comes. Soon.
I retired after 45 years in IT, and I thought my acronym days were behind me. But with TDS and now SODS, I guess I was wrong. And I figured erasure machine was enough softer than "hit team" that I wouldn't catch any flack for a direct accusation.
Clinton is tool. A puppet The real question who controls the puppets in America? Or the world for that matter. Remember what Rothschilds said all those years ago. "As long as I control the money supply, I care not who makes the laws" As true today, as it was 200 years ago.
She's fine w Trump winning. Ds will get more donations by sniping / complaining from the sidelines. They expose their incompetence when actually running things.
Only 1 DEM the rest REP. And the DEM was about to move against the CIA.
Nothing to see here.
All REP, except Kennedy.
Thanks, I forgot about that.
I just checked up on her, and good grief, she's been paroled.
https://www.google.com/maps/place//@4...
I put the map together myself using Google maps.
(Donning my tin foil hat again...)
Is it possible that someone in the Secret Service was part of a conspiracy to have Trump assassinated, and his job was to make sure that possible sniper's nest wasn't secured?
(Taking the hat back off...)
and the reported shooter is now dead, silenced
the SS was clearly involved in the JFK murder
In JFK's case, it involved the CIA and possibly the FBI as well - what a coincidence? This whole affair brings back bad memories from long ago and how similar Saturday almost was.
By the way, the snipers were instructed NOT to shoot until assassin takes first shot. Now, in a multi-shot volley, which shot is likely to be the most accurate?
I guess this brings us back to the issues of incompetence or complicit. His primary group was replaced at the last minute with a substitute group, and then two were redirected to protect Jill elsewhere.
(My foil hat may be stuck in place.)
the car clearly slowed or stopped
the zapruder film was altered to remove this, but you can see it the film when people jerk backwards very fast
https://johncostella.com/jfk/intro/
for all the lies and name calling directed at Trump
may the reap what they have sown
I'm only surprised they waited until now to act.
Why wasn't that one roof the sniper selected being watched? (Ahem, or was it?).
Why were the people who saw him skulking around with a rifle on that roof ignored by police?
"Mostly Peaceful Assassination Attempt"
- CNN
LOL (Not from CNN though)
One, they can keep ramming the following headline down our throats: "The shooter was a Republican; even THEY don't want Trump to be president."
Two, this could be the chance Buydem needs to leave the race, citing "threats of retaliation by MAGA extremists". Nobody would ever have to expand on those threats; rather than doing their jobs and ferreting out the truth, the MSM would simply parrot what the White House says, and once again, we would look like the bad guys, even though it was our candidate who got shot.
Geez, I need to shut this generator off; maybe I need to start drinking again. (Just kidding; that ain't gonna happen, not after almost 11 years.)
How long before CNN states that as fact?
It certainly is a fantastic photograph of defiant Trump. CNN and the media will never be able to understand that.
Jamie Gangel is the reporter; here's her comment, along with the link.
"I do want to say there was one thing that when I watched the tape, I found odd because of all of the heated rhetoric, and that is after he was hit, former President Trump got up and said, ‘fight, fight, fight,’" Gangel said.
"I think what we’re hearing from people is that’s not the message that we want to be sending right now. We want to tamp it down," she said.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-hos...
So, in a nutshell, she's not pissed that someone took a shot at Trump; she's pissed that Trump reacted by not rolling over and figuratively playing dead.
If there was a license required to be a journalist, hers would be revoked.,
on the shooter::
He had no known criminal record.
The body of Crooks was taken from the rooftop. He was not carrying identification.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation and the United States Department of Justice National Security Division
opened investigations into the shooting and confirmed the shooter's identity via fingerprint biometrics and DNA profiling.
so how did they have fingerprints and DNA??
"He had no known criminal record."
maybe fingerprints from a gun permit, my state unconstitutionally takes those
DNA is still a question
As in Occam's Razor the inevitable conclusion is pointing towards an inside job....again.
But it will never be concluded as such. The minute I heard that the FBI and Congress will "investigate", "get to the bottom of this", so that "it must never happen again", I knew the truth is out of reach.
Even characters in the public pundit circles are saying: "they scandalized him", "they impeached him twice", "they tried to bankrupt him", "they tried to jail him", "they lawfared him", "now, they tried to kill him"......
!!!!!! Holy %$^#! Did everyone just hear that? "They, they, they". Everyone knows and are stating the obvious. And no one goes there and acknowledges what is even publicly "Top of Mind". Nor the obvious of who and what "they" are. And it will once again end up as a dead lone gunman - an addled, disgruntled, disillusioned youth. With access to assault weapons. Of course. And off it goes once again into the ever never land of plausible deniability/deniable plausibility and will always be a media induced blind spot in the public consciousness.
Disregard the timing. Disregard the fact that after this week as a candidate, his VP successor will be established, his position as officially nominated candidate of the Republican Party will be complete. Ostensibly, his allotted Secret Service coverage increases by definition.
Only about two weeks ago, my wife and I were out doors in the chairs late at night talking about how this is going to go. I said "they" will get him. It is that "at all costs" thing. Don't know how, but it will be an inside job through Secret Security. My proposed mechanism was infiltrated moles in his Secret Service protection would sabotage Trump Force One and the aircraft will crash in fiery finality. But one can pose all kinds of ways. The imagination has no limits when it comes to the possible realities.
Geez, For the thousandth time in a lifetime, can it get anymore interesting?
I share the sentiment of many of the older generations. It brought back old emotions I had long forgotten following the Kennedy assassination. As an 8 year old, my understanding came through not the words, but the demeanor of the adults. The palpable sense of horror crystallizing into the cascade of expressed emotions of how the world will never be the same again.
I saw it unfold live. Those moments when he was down before rising back up and signaling he was OK were horrible with waves of those old memories.
And today, as I am approaching 70, it has a long way to go and is nowhere near over. From the Lord of The Rings: "You cannot choose the times that you live in, but must make the best of the time given to you." These are the times that try one's soul.
Then, when she discovered Trump was still alive, she threw something heavy at Bill.
The real question who controls the puppets in America? Or the world for that matter.
Remember what Rothschilds said all those years ago.
"As long as I control the money supply, I care not who makes the laws"
As true today, as it was 200 years ago.