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    Posted by Dobrien 2 years, 4 months ago
    Q uestion W.H.O. Makes the money from this
    Scheme? Is it the same people W.H.O. Decide if it’s safe? Follow the money! Satanic snake oil grifters in collusion with Governments WorldWide.
    Millions of deaths , infertility , now Sudden Adult Death Syndrome. Wake the FuQ up everyone.
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    • Posted by j_IR1776wg 2 years, 4 months ago
      I agree. Will we ever know how much in profits the Communist Party of China made in selling the masks and testing kits? The self Test at Home says Made In China, but the QuickVue At-Home test only says Quidel Corp San Diego. No Made in country.
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    Posted by $ Markus_Katabri 2 years, 4 months ago
    Disclaimer: I am vaxxed

    Effectiveness: It MIGHT lessen the severity of the symptoms. But, I have seen ZERO conclusive evidence of this.
    I did lose 2 friends to COVID. Their brother caught it also but was vaxxed and lived with medical attention. This example led to my decision to be vaxxed. I should add that their stubborn refusal to seek medical help when their symptoms worsened probably played greatly into their demise. Typical COVID playbook. Went on ventilators, died from pneumonia 2 weeks later. Their brother who lived sought medical attention early.

    Safety: High probability of cardiovascular problems down the road. Based on empirical evidence of those around us.
    I have had 3 vaxxed family members who, arguably were in miserable health to begin with, stroke out in the last year. 2 were fatal. One has Brain Damage. I am in good health so far.

    Would I do it again? ABSOLUTELY NOT! Never again. And I’ve had no “boosters”.
    I didn’t used to be Anti-Vax.
    I am now!

    Not even considering how highly politicized it was, these are my findings based on REALITY as I see it.
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    • Posted by jack1776 2 years, 4 months ago
      Sorry about your friends but I must argue that your friends died of malpractice, not covid.
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      • Posted by $ Markus_Katabri 2 years, 4 months ago
        Also a fair assessment. The automatic put everyone on a vent was NOT the right way to go. I’ve lost faith in the medical establishment. The lies that were pushed. Blatant lies that I can see plainly. I’ve not been back to see my doctor in quite awhile. He was trying to push the booster on me and I told him we should stop discussing this or bad things might happen.
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    • Posted by $ gharkness 2 years, 4 months ago
      See, this is how you do it. You pay attention to what's happening, draw reasonable conclusions, and go from there. I don't care who they are, how highly credentialled, or how much an authority they are, NOBODY cares about your life as much as you do.

      I think you did the right thing. And I hope it continues not to cause issues in your life.
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    • Posted by $ 25n56il4 2 years, 4 months ago
      From the beginning of hearing about COVID, I advised my friends it was a Bioweapon. If I'd been told I'd lose my job if I didn't get vaxed, I'd have said, 'Fine, I'll give you enough notice to find my replacement but I will NOT be vaxed. I had to be vaxed for Smallpox three times as a child. My mother warned the school 'no more'. The last vax 'took'.
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    • Posted by mhubb 2 years, 4 months ago
      vaxxed also, J&J as it is not RNA
      against my will, to keep my job
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      • Posted by $ Markus_Katabri 2 years, 4 months ago
        Mine was Pfizer
        I should add that the coercive forces applied to people were egregious.
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        • Posted by $ 25n56il4 2 years, 4 months ago
          Don't you question why?
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            Posted by jack1776 2 years, 4 months ago
            Agreed, nothing here adds up…
            If this is a vaccine, the vaccinated would be impervious, why would the vaccinated care about my status?
            If this was to make money, why not just inject them with saline?
            If this was for my own good, how come they threaten my job if I didn’t take the jab, even though I work from home and have never stepped foot into an office?
            If the government was looking out for me, how come they would pull federal contracts/funding from my employer if I don’t take the jab?
            How come Ivermectin treatment was covered up?
            How come major Dem Governors placed Covid patents in nursing homes?
            How come the media drive this fear porn 24 x 7?


            If you look at this through the lens of casing economic hardship and/or depopulation, their reactions make more sense. The panic for you to take the jab was only because they need numbers before, we find out.
            I think the engineered virus became much less lethal and they drove the panic through the media to get the jab. I read about a virologist that stated that virus naturally try not to kill their hosts because their hosts don’t spread the virus as much.
            I keep hearing about more and more deaths for the vaccine
            All of my employees and co-works are vaccinated, most have been sick several times since taking the vaccinee.
            The virus was released for you to take the vaccine, we don’t know what the vaccine will do. Looking at the food processing plants and farms burning up, now livestock is being slaughtered, fuel prices will shut down transit.

            ---> We are in war with an unknown enemy, we just don’t realize it yet. <---
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            • Posted by $ gharkness 2 years, 4 months ago
              I also took J&J, no booster, simply because there was no reasonable other choice. I crossed my fingers - HARD - when I took it, and HOPE that did some good. (kidding) My injection date was April 30, 2021, and so far, so good.

              Oh, I DID get Covid, and so did my husband who took J&J with me on the same day (he also had no reasonable choice). But as I have mentioned here before many times, I had prepared like crazy, and had a full course of Ivermectin in my medicine cabinet for each of us. So, I started hubby on it the day he showed symptoms, and I started the next day because I could FEEL - literally - the virus moving into my lungs. I don't know how to explain it but I knew it was there. Hubby had a serious lung condition already so the virus was a little harder on him than on me. For me it was almost nothing.

              And YES, according to the "trial" that was recently in the news, it did NOT lessen the LENGTH of the viral infection, but it very much lessened the SEVERITY (which was not mentioned as they were touting how "Ivermectin doesn't work, see?")

              Editing to add: my great-granddaughter is about 18 months old - smack dab in the danger zone for the new, approved for children over 6 months, jab. I try really hard to stay out of my grandson's business, but I did check with him on this because I really just couldn't help myself.... His reply: "Don't worry, Grandma! I haven't even gotten the shot - don't plan to - and I sure don't plan to get it for the baby!" Thank goodness. They'll have to navigate the waters of enrolling for school in a few years. I hope that goes okay, but for now she's safe.
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            • Posted by Dobrien 2 years, 4 months ago
              I have stated for 6+ years we are at war , an “Uncivil War” . Today it is actually termed “irregular warfare” which is under the special operations command , other acts are political warfare and information warfare. The “invisible enemy” is revealed in Prussiagate by Will Zoll ‘s masterful history lessons. Good vs Evil.
              The battle rages as the Deep State has lost the narrative at every turn.

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      • Posted by Ben_C 2 years, 4 months ago
        I too went with the J&J for the same reason. One shot then done with it. I do not plan on getting another. I much prefer the treatment options if positive. It is becoming a pretty wimpy virus. I fear for the children that are getting the jabs. Long term consequences are yet to be defined but are very worrisome.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 2 years, 4 months ago
    It hasn't ever been effective and in its own trials it created a death toll that would have been unacceptable for any other proposed medication. That's the short version. Here's the long version:

    1) The only people at any risk at all from COVID were the elderly with pre-existing conditions. The statistics for the AVERAGE person dying from COVID: 70 years old with three other co-morbidities. These weren't healthy people to begin with. There are more people who die from the flu and its complications in the under-50 crowd than from COVID - especially in those <20. All that as per the CDC's own figures.
    2) Anyone of procreating age were never at risk from COVID unless they had some serious pre-existing condition. Every single one of the deaths (~450 TOTAL) in those <20 attributed to COVID was in someone with a serious pre-existing condition.
    3) Even the initial COVID "vaccines" only had a proposed "effective" timeframe of about 6 months. Every other effective vaccine on the planet provides immunity for at least 10 years (tetanus) or life (nearly everything else).
    4) Real effectiveness of the "vaccines" is actually negative: those who receive treatment are actually MORE likely to get COVID thereafter. This is especially true in children, where the tested "effectiveness" of these treatments is under one month.
    5) Worldwide, there are a reported six million deaths due to COVID. The US reported more than 1 million of these.
    6) Experts have pointed out the 300% spike in suicides and domestic abuse cases during the lockdowns.
    7) Experts have pointed out the severe educational deficiencies in the past two years. There is little hope these will be overcome.
    8) Experts have pointed out the severe psychological/sociological damage caused by lockdowns.

    Questions to ask:
    1) Why bother getting a medical treatment which doesn't actually provide any protection? (Fear.)
    2) Why are those in the medical establishment pushing these treatments when there is no protection? (Money.)
    3) Why are those in the government pushing these treatments? (Power and ideology)
    4) Why have over 16% of the total worldwide deaths attributed to COVID taken place in a nation with only 4.25% of the population - especially a nation with the best healthcare in the world?
    5) Why have African nations - those generally far more affected by tropical diseases - seen almost zero COVID? (ivermectin/hydroxychloroquine)
    6) Why the rush to immediately demonize those promoting alternative medications? (Ideology and ulterior designs)

    Personal experiences:
    1) 40-yr-old HS friend of my wife died from blood clots after getting the "vaccine." Doctors refused to investigate if the cause of death was vaccine-related.
    2) 60+yr-old friend of my father-in-law died from massive organ failure two days after getting the shot. He ran 20+ miles every day and was the head of the SAR team for the area.
    3) Sister-in-law had to have IV antibiotics and 10% of her body weight in fluid pumped from her abdominal cavity only a week after getting the shot. She would have died.

    My conclusions:
    The more I look into this the more evil the whole thing becomes. IMO, the vaccines are intended to sterilize and weaken the global population as per the acknowledged Davos initiative to reduce the world's population to under 500 million.
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    • Posted by mccannon01 2 years, 4 months ago
      HAD to +1 all of that!

      A little sarcasm though: In #7 how can you complain about educational deficiencies when American schools are providing the cutting edge of knowledge by spearheading drag queen story hour?
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  • Posted by Rex_Little 2 years, 4 months ago
    They pretty clearly don't do much to reduce your chance of getting COVID. One of my stepdaughter's co-workers came to the office with COVID and passed it to 12 others. All but one were vaxxed (required for the job). The one who isn't (got a fake certificate) had the mildest symptoms of any of them. None were hospitalized or had any respiratory symptoms; I think the virus has mutated away from attacking the breathing passages.

    I myself am unvaxxed, and haven't caught anything, despite a face-to-face visit with my stepdaughter (including a goodbye hug) the day she tested positive.
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  • Posted by saucerdesigner 2 years, 4 months ago
    When the director of our (County) Senior Citizens Center lunch provider asked early on in 2020, as she always does, if anyone had anything they wanted to announce, I stood up, took the mic and announced that I hoped that I would get Covid-19 so that I could show everyone that it was not a big deal.
    Why? For the preceding several years I had practiced getting sensible sun exposure using no sunscreen to maximize my Vitamin D level, in addition to the fact I'd been using MesoSilver (TM); (no affiliation btw, tellin' not sellin'), for years to halt infections of all sorts.
    By the time I had said that, little did I know that I'd already had Covid-19, gotten over it and didn't notice.
    True, I had a persistent dry cough for about a week, but no other symptoms. I thought it was from the smoke in my environment.
    Still, the nagging suspicion that the cough was due to Covid compelled me to go get a Covid antibody test. Bingo!
    Now I've got lifetime natural immunity. Am I worried about variants? Not as long as the sun shines and I've got MesoSilver. YMMV
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 2 years, 4 months ago
    It certainly has failed to demonstrate safety or effectiveness. I know fully vaccinated people who, not only are the only ones I know getting the virus still, but some have been infected up to four times. I'm stumped by this whole thing...
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  • Posted by freedomforall 2 years, 4 months ago
    Unsafe and ineffective (assuming the effect desired is to stop COVID without damaging side effects.)
    Cui Bono?
    Big Pharma? Yes
    Big Government? Yes.
    Big Business? Yes.
    People with political "pull"? Yes.
    The vaccinated? No.
    Young people? No.
    Small business? No.
    Travelers? No.
    Individual Liberty? No.
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  • Posted by $ Snezzy 2 years, 4 months ago
    We've had no vax, no illness. We work outdoors and we take 5000 IU Vit D in the winter, 1000 mg Vit C all year long, plus occasional Zn. Turned down pony-ride jobs that required vax or masks. It is not safe to yell "Gbt thft chi fr udrnth tbt pony!" when what you needed to say was, "Get that child from underneath that pony!"
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    • Posted by $ Snezzy 2 years, 4 months ago
      Oh, my wife says she may have had the disease, lingering symptoms, but one day of deworming our goats with moxidectin, getting the stuff all over her hands, was apparently what made her symptoms vanish overnight.
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  • Posted by GaryL 2 years, 4 months ago
    Right from the beginning I did not trust Saint Fauci and we never took any of his money making jabs. Friends and close family did take jabs and boosters.
    We secured the meds, Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine, Doxycycline, Azithromycin, Zinc & D3. Almost everyone we know who was vaccinated and or boosted did get Covid and we finally got it ourselves. My brother ended up in the hospital, vaxed and boosted and was very sick for 2 weeks. We took our meds for 5 days and got cured easily with very mild illness at all. Make your own decisions if you are free to do so and can avoid the vaccines. There are plenty of medicines out there if you have the access to them even though they go against the power grabbers making all the money.
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  • Posted by ohiocrossroads 2 years, 4 months ago
    I had COVID, then on the advice of my medical practicer, got the 1st shot of the Moderna vaccine. It made sicker than the disease itself. I didn't get the 2nd jab.

    My workplace at the time had a 100% Vax policy. I sent HR a nast-e-mail telling them that I wouldn't be getting the 2nd shot, and that I wouldn't be applying for a religious exemption because I don't need permission from anybody to exercise my rights.

    Never heard a peep back from them.
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 2 years, 4 months ago
      Following the advice of a family doctor who may have very well saved my life so far (I'm 75 now), I had the two Moderna shots plus the booster.
      No ill effects so far.
      Been wondering if I was just freakin' lucky.
      Sorry to learn of your illness.
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      • Posted by $ TomB666 2 years, 4 months ago
        Wife and I thought about the shot and decided to investigate before doing anything about it. We are retired so no job to pressure us - but that was the thing: Why were they trying so hard to get everyone to take the shot? Reminded me of Aesop's Fable of the fox who lost is tail.

        The longer we though and studied it, the more we decided we wouldn't take it. We've heard of people dying from covid, but it is all anecdotal, for example I bought a car from the estate of a man who 'died from covid'. The death certificate says he died from covid, pneumonia, and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. COPD or pneumonia either one is enough to kill a person. So did he die FROM covid, or WITH covid?

        I have been told by several medical people that by including covid in the cause of death the hospital gets extra money. And as we watched and waited we saw more and more information that made us suspicious as to just how bad covid really is, plus the fact that the so-called vax is not a vaccine in the traditional sense and it was not fully tested, but granted approval for use on an emergency basis. We have waited it out and neither of us caught so much as a cold! We are both older (78 and 79) and supposedly in the high risk group.

        We think this was TRAINING – seeing just what it took to get people to allow themselves to be injected with an untested and unproven drug.
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        • Posted by $ allosaur 2 years, 4 months ago
          Retired too but can recall attending the funeral of a supervisor's grown daughter who died of pneumonia.
          Can see how also calling that Covid for money would be tempting for a hospital~~especially if the money is really needed.
          And who for being an average person these days doesn't need more money?
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      • Posted by skidance 2 years, 4 months ago
        I had two Moderna shots, and so far, the only side effect was a case of "Moderna Arm," a moderately painful, swollen, red, itchy upper arm which resolved in a few days. Nevertheless, I remain skeptical and suspicious.
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  • Posted by CathyColeman 2 years, 4 months ago
    Since the roll out began in New Zealand in April 2022 I have been sick each time I have been in contact with a vaccinated person. The roll out has put me into a prison of sorts and now less people are having the booster I am slowly getting more freedom back but what a price to pay! And the vaxxed cannot imagine that anything they could do could possibly hurt someone else. So arrogant and ignorant - Imany times I have wanted to just want to live in Galts Gulch and avoid them altogether,
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 2 years, 4 months ago
    My BFF had the Pfizer vax and I think, two boosters. She has been in the hospital since May 15 and has no known release date. She thinks she is improving and will be sent to Rehab for Recovery.
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  • Posted by Consititution1st 2 years, 4 months ago
    I am so old I remember the swine flu (1976) Hyper panic and a rushed vaccine resulted in 50+ deaths and hundreds of injuries, it was immediately pulled off the market. I always get the flu and it always sucks, but you get through it and you move on. Every year, millions die of the flu world-wide and that sucks too. But by all measures, this was a mild flu season. This jab, this "unapproved experimental gene therapy" is not a vaccine, it is by definition a "medical device". The VARS reporting is way under reported, the Military reporting is far more accurate. Deaths are in the tens of thousands and injuries are in the millions. So why is this still being pushed so hard, as in: being shoved down our throats?
    Full disclosure: I am old, I have all the comorbidities. In January of 2020 I caught this bio-weapon, (I worked for the military, for 35 years I know enough about bio-weapons not to be scammed with cover stories and lies). I waited far too long to go to the doc. Still, with the help of prednisone and massive anti-antibiotics I beat the covd-cooties down. It took a long time and I still have "Long Haulers" symptoms: brain fog, racing heartbeat... the shortness of breath has thankfully subsided. I felt no purpose in taking an experimental jab after the fact. My anti-bodies are working just ducky, thank you very much. 18 months later and I'm healthy as an old goat gets. The government is with-holding the data. They want little babies who are at basically zero risk to take the jab. The stories of infertility are just coming around now, but as you might expect, these stories are being covered, with a pillow, until they stop moving. The other story making the rounds is this didn't wholly originate in Wuhan, but in Ukraine. The Pentagon just admitted yesterday there were 47 bio-weapons labs in Ukraine. Remember, the main purpose of the military is to kill people and break sh!, when you keep that in-mind, all the rest makes sense. This all all going down because of "emergency powers act" Remember two week lock down to "bend the curve". When everything is an emergency, nothing is. Now our world has been bent into a pretzel, how is that all working out? Millions of small businesses went bankrupt, while all the giant box stores cashed in like bandits. I can go to a walliemart with 500 other people but I couldn't go into my local hardware store with 3 people? I can't go to church, but I can buy all the alcohol and pot I want. This stinks like yesterday's diapers. This is a scam, start to finish. A ScamDemic. A Plandemic. Now they are pushing out the MoneyPox... I'm calling it: BS. Next up: Alien Threat. Wait for it. The covid cooties petered out, the moneypox flopped. Hey, let's start a war with a nuclear armed bear. That's the ticket. Notice a pattern? Got to keep those Emergency Powers rolling. Right kids? One last little jab at the powers that be: My elderly mother was locked down in her assisted care facility for 18 months, when she found out that, again, she wasn't allowed to see her family for Thanksgiving and Christmas, she took her life. Do You think I'm a little bitter about this scam? Damn Skippy I am. Drug and alcohol abuse and deaths, domestic abuse, lost jobs and wages, suicides. Wow, we really showed that pesky virus who's boss. I still had a few years to full retirement, but I went on strike last year, for good. So have many of my compardres.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 2 years, 4 months ago
    It does work. The statistics are clear.
    It does have serious side effects.
    It is totally unnecessary in children. The risks completely outweigh the value
    It was not thoroughly tested, like all the other crap we overprice with pretend government "safety" organizations, which do nothing but increase taxes and costs.
    It was a scam to shore up pharmaceutical revenue and profit
    It is being used (along with masks and fear) to subjugate the population to government totalitarians. This is the real objective, and the reasons masks in schools are being pushed... to "train" the next generation of lemmings.
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  • Posted by Storo 2 years, 4 months ago
    My wife and I are 73 yrs of age, and fully vaccinated - 2 original doses, and 2 boosters. We’ve had no side effects or other issues. However we know of a number of others - some in their 60s or 70s, some in their 30s or 40s - all of whom were vaccinated - who came down with Covid after vaccination. Several, including a 60 yr old mother and her early 30s daughter, died of COVID (supposedly) after vaccination.
    I don’t trust the numbers. If you have heart problems, are vaccinated against Covid, come down with Covid, and die of a heart attack, you’re listed as having died of Covid. So who knows the real efficacy of Covid non-vaccine. It isn’t really a vaccine, but it’s close.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 2 years, 4 months ago
    I had COVID for 6 days, fever only one day. No respiratory problems (I've had two pneumonia vaxes). I did, however, lose 42 pounds and have some not too serious stomach issues.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 2 years, 4 months ago
    Two of my friends got the J&J vax and a booster. They are now recovering from a really bad respiratory attack. Both are extremely healthy seniors. The female picked out the dress she wanted to be buried in but is gradually recovering.
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 2 years, 4 months ago
    Every individual that I know who has taken at least one of the shots has developed some level of side effects -- from seeing double, respiratory issues, heart issues, impaired memory -- all anecdotal, but I am looking at a sizeable number of individuals. Running the numbers, there is no positive ROI for me to take any variant of the shot.

    Need to Know News has been offering stories regarding the costs of the vax over the past year -- one recent example, Massive uptick in disability claims since vax rollout:
    https://needtoknow.news/2022/06/financial-expert-reports-massive-uptick-in-disability-claims-since-covid-vaccine-rollout/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=financial-expert-reports-massive-uptick-in-disability-claims-since-covid-vaccine-rollout
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