I'm still waiting for a validated scientific study that contrasts death-rate statistics from years past with 2020. I've heard rumors that "COVID deaths" include anyone who died of anything, but with a possibility that the person might have been exposed to the CCP virus.
I've also heard that NOBODY died of "the flu" in 2020.
Where are the numbers? Where is the actual science? To me it continues to appear that we are to trust "the science" the same way the folks in H. C. Andersen's story were to trust what they were told of the Emperor's garments in Kejserens nye klæder. Ignore your lying eyes!
There was an excellent report on excess deaths using the CDC's own figures which pointed out that we didn't have even close to 400K+ excess deaths last year, ie deaths supposedly caused by coronavirus. See the study done by Johns Hopkins University (which was later pulled for political and not scientific reasons): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Tnb1...
Note that the Johns Hopkins study notes that excess deaths from 2020 were flat when compared to 2019.
Instead, because coroners were instructed to by the CDC, COVID-19 was listed as the primary cause of death even if only present. All it did was re-classify deaths from other causes such as heart disease, diabetes, etc. The common top five were all down 80% last year as a result, with the actual death rate just about even with 2019 - except for the suicides and depression which were up in some areas 400%.
This was also confirmed by a finding very early on by a coroner in San Diego who looked through the cases of 196 deaths attributed to COVID-19 and found that of those only SIX were properly classified, ie only 3%.https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ne...
If you take that 3% figure and attach it to the 440K figure you get a much more believable figure of just over 13,000 true deaths due to COVID-19.
Excellent research on your part, blarman. Too bad the vast numbers of dumbed down math challenged in our society would be clueless as to understanding a single word.
I can't source any of what I'm about to share, so these three points need to be taken as second hand and anecdotal.
But very early on, I saw reports from the Health Departments from multiple states that said, in essence, "If you check into our hospitals with some other medical condition but test positive for Covid-19 and then die, you will be listed as a Covid-19 death."
Again, I can't source, this, but I also saw a report that was peer-reviewed with a CDC sign-off that said for each one confirmed case, there are at least five others who either were asymptomatic, or had such mild symptoms that they didn't contact any medical personnel. Which means that instead of 104M cases worldwide, the number is closer to 620M cases. And even if you accept the death count of 2.25M, that works out to 0.36 percent death rate, if I've done the math correctly.
And even that number is skewed. For a third time in this post, I can't source this. But if I remember correctly, something like 68 percent of all attributed Covid-19 deaths came from 6 percent of the population.
We are on the same page. I think it came out from the CDC in August 2020 regarding 94% of all C19 deaths are per individuals with an average of 2.6 comorbidities. The Cold and Flu have virtually disappeared over the past year. It is all very curious.
Following the estimated increase of deaths per 1000 people in US to about 8.88 deaths per 1000 which would give 8.88 *330000 = 2930400 deaths for 2020. The preliminary deaths for 2020 are about 3100000 or about 169600 above 2019. That would indicate that one should not view that the 440000+ deaths that are associated with Covid-19, as described by the CDC, as being caused by the SARS Cov-2 virus and should be more in the range of the excess deaths. Still a large number of deaths caused by SARS Cov-2, on the order of the Asian flu in late 1950s of about 160000. The CDC does not report the deaths associated with Covid-19 disease as having been caused by it.
Recall the day Trump first mentioned hydrozychloroquine as a viable Covid treatment, Tucker Carlson was showing montages of organized every network angry-faced Fake News talking bobblehead puppets trashing the hell out of what Orange Man Bad said. Unfortunately, many of the medical profession toed the line of that libtarded lie.
I was going to say something similar. The libtards irrational hatred for Trump is so pervasive in their psyches they would kill half our families, drive us all into poverty, and burn America to the ground from sea to sea rather than admit Trump is correct about anything.
I'm hoping the silver lining will be showing how destructive the leftists really are that they'll crawl back into their dark holes, ushering in an overpowering number of Patriotic Republicans in the House and Senate in 22. Make the most of it Biden.
So I searched back to the original article to see what it really said. This is out of my area of expertise but it was obviously written by objective, rational men without a political agenda. It supports the antidotal evidence while not denying the absence of scientific proof with blind testing. Instead it relies on what has been proven and the logic of concluding that there are methods and medications that would be beneficial to the treatment of those infected. Where are such people when we are being murdered by power mad brutes that do not regard the loss of 440,000 human lives as too high a price to pay to discredit their opponent?
Familiar! I’m old enough to remember the HIV-AIDS scam during the 1980s while I was in medical school. I uploaded an important lecture from a rebel scientist; search for Bryan Ellison Unabridged and the uploader maineporcupines and you’ll find it.
In March last year, I alerted government officials that a Lancet article from 1920 (can’t find it; I tried) showed intravenous hydrogen peroxide is a help during viral respiratory infections. No replies. The FDA. Fool and Dunce Administration bans its intravenous use despite obvious evidence per theory that it helps (cytochrome enzyme chain) and true observations. If the epidemic were truly dangerous, H2O2 would have been encouraged and HCQ too. It’s a scam and yes I have encountered medical board backlash.
I believe you about the Lancet article. I read a medical paper dated 1911 written by a doctor that did similar experiments using hydrogen peroxide as a potential cure/relief for emphysema. I saw the paper at a garge sale in a box of old documents. It was printed as a stand alone treatise, not part of any famous magazine or newspaper. Although interesting, I didn't have any use for it at the time - now I wish I bought it.
Posted by $ Dobrien 9 months ago to Study: Hydroxychloroquine decreased COVID mortality hazard ratio 66 to 71 percent osted by Dobrien 2 months, 4 weeks ago to Drug used to treat head lice can kill COVID-19 cells (in lab testing only) Hydroxychloroquine With a Zpack or Azythromycin. If the New Yellow Times hates it you have to wonder why. The New York Times Ignoring Expert Opinion, Trump Again Promotes Use of Hydroxychloroquine 2 hours ago · Mr. Trump's recommendation of hydroxychloroquine, for the second day in a row at a White House briefing, was a striking example of his brazen willingness to distort and outright defy expert ..
Well well ........They did not report this. Hmmmmm New York doctor says he has successfully treated coronavirus patients' symptoms using hydroxychloroquine sulfate, zinc, and azithromycin. Dr. Vladimir Zelenko is a registered family doctor in Monroe, New York, where he runs two clinics and has said he has successfully treated respiratory symptoms of 699 coronavirus patients using a cocktail of the drugs, including the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine, a derivative of chloroquine.
I would say lots of lawsuits against Fakebook, Twatter and Lamestream media. Anyone who said that it didn't work and poohed the studies and doctors who had proof should be held for liable and slander.
https://www.revolver.news/2020/08/study-covid-19-lockdowns-deadlier-than-pandemic-itself/ A groundbreaking new study commissioned by Revolver News concludes that COVID-19 lockdowns are ten times more deadly than the actual COVID-19 virus in terms of years of life lost by American citizens. Up until this point there had been no simple, rigorous analysis that accurately and definitively conveys the true costs of the COVID-19 lockdowns. Accordingly, Revolver News set out to commission a study to do precisely that: to finally quantify the net damage of the lockdowns in terms of a metric known as “life-years.” Simply put, we have drawn upon existing economic studies on the health effects of unemployment to calculate an estimate of how many years of life will have been lost due to the lockdowns in the United States, and have weighed this against an estimate of how many years of life will have been saved by the lockdowns. The results are nothing short of staggering, and suggest that the lockdowns will end up costing Americans over 10 times as many years of life as they will save from the virus itself. The COVID-19 lockdown measures that Americans have had to endure for the greater part of 2020 represent one of the most dramatic, consequential, and damaging policy measures undertaken in this nation’s history. For the first time in its history, America has experienced a situation so crippling and perilous that long term financial and social stability have been legitimately threatened.
Calculations Show COVID-19 “Cure” Is Worse Than Disease Standard approaches to evaluating epidemic policy responses, involving the Value of a Statistical Life, have conceptual problems and are biased towards the elderly and rich. Using a life-years criterion as an alternative shows that the lockdowns cost an order of magnitude more life-years than they saved. Most of the publicized cost-benefit analyses of COVID-19 lockdowns have used coarse measures like lives as units rather than life-years, which misleads politicians and the general public. COVID-19 deaths disproportionately impact the oldest members of the population, whereas the economic impacts of lockdowns disproportionately harm the youngest of the working population, who have far greater life expectancies at the time of impact. Using prior research on workforce entrants and recent graduates entering into a market marred by an economic recession, empirical estimates of life-years lost can be determined. Extensive research on job displacement can be used to estimate the economic impact in life-years of starkly increased unemployment for mid-to-late career workers. Combining these analyses, we found that an estimated 18.7 million life-years will be lost in the United States due to the COVID-19 lockdowns. Comparative data analysis between nations shows that the lockdowns in the United States likely had a minimal effect in saving life-years. Using two different comparison groups, we estimate that the COVID-19 lockdowns in the U.S. saved between a quarter to three quarters of a million life-years. Every broad age category lost life-years from the lockdowns including those 55 and older. The media and state and local governments contributed to the panic by selectively presenting evidence on COVID-19 and shutdowns of dubious benefit. Public health researchers and health economists gave poor policy advice and made selective use of the prior research literature. They will likely be rewarded, not punished, by academia for their failure because of academia’s biases. Public health in general is so biased and vulnerable to motivated cognition that it is not “not yet ready for policy analysis.”
Too little too late, the headline damage was done months ago. To hell with the fish wrapper news papers and the verbal diarrhea social media online. You can explain it to them but you can't understand it for them.
So, all the doctors who came out and said it worked, all the scientists, all the people who used it, all labeled as "conspiracy theorists" and banned or censured. Yet where is the apologies, the licenses reinstated that AMA pulled for "malpractice"?
Lets SAFELY Assume that HCQ would have saved about 50% of these people from dying (BECAUSE it is safe enough to prescribe EARLY even if you take the person off later when they come back NEGATIVE... ie, don't wait for the test to be positive, you are losing precious friggin' time)
Then I HEARBY DECLARE The MEDIA and the BIG TECH have 220,000 DEATHS on their hands, and SHOULD BE SUED into OBLIVION!
The medical establishment is no longer telling the truth. By example my older cousin I just found out had past away he had Prostate Cancer a few years back was treated and in remission, then recently diagnosed with Lung Cancer hospitalized developed Pneumonia according to his family. Then they found out they marked his Death Cert as passing from Covid. They were very upset at the hospital. But, wouldn't change the diagnosis.
now that the electyion is over and stolen by the democrats, amazing are the things that will come out. Big Tech doesnt deserve to be listened to or receive any money from us deplorables.
I'm still waiting for a validated scientific study that contrasts death-rate statistics from years past with 2020. I've heard rumors that "COVID deaths" include anyone who died of anything, but with a possibility that the person might have been exposed to the CCP virus.
I've also heard that NOBODY died of "the flu" in 2020.
Where are the numbers? Where is the actual science? To me it continues to appear that we are to trust "the science" the same way the folks in H. C. Andersen's story were to trust what they were told of the Emperor's garments in Kejserens nye klæder. Ignore your lying eyes!
Note that the Johns Hopkins study notes that excess deaths from 2020 were flat when compared to 2019.
Instead, because coroners were instructed to by the CDC, COVID-19 was listed as the primary cause of death even if only present. All it did was re-classify deaths from other causes such as heart disease, diabetes, etc. The common top five were all down 80% last year as a result, with the actual death rate just about even with 2019 - except for the suicides and depression which were up in some areas 400%.
This was also confirmed by a finding very early on by a coroner in San Diego who looked through the cases of 196 deaths attributed to COVID-19 and found that of those only SIX were properly classified, ie only 3%. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ne...
If you take that 3% figure and attach it to the 440K figure you get a much more believable figure of just over 13,000 true deaths due to COVID-19.
But very early on, I saw reports from the Health Departments from multiple states that said, in essence, "If you check into our hospitals with some other medical condition but test positive for Covid-19 and then die, you will be listed as a Covid-19 death."
Again, I can't source, this, but I also saw a report that was peer-reviewed with a CDC sign-off that said for each one confirmed case, there are at least five others who either were asymptomatic, or had such mild symptoms that they didn't contact any medical personnel. Which means that instead of 104M cases worldwide, the number is closer to 620M cases. And even if you accept the death count of 2.25M, that works out to 0.36 percent death rate, if I've done the math correctly.
And even that number is skewed. For a third time in this post, I can't source this. But if I remember correctly, something like 68 percent of all attributed Covid-19 deaths came from 6 percent of the population.
The CDC does not report the deaths associated with Covid-19 disease as having been caused by it.
Now, about the election you stole and the 400,000 people you murdered, you lying sack of leftist 5#!7 ...
In March last year, I alerted government officials that a Lancet article from 1920 (can’t find it; I tried) showed intravenous hydrogen peroxide is a help during viral respiratory infections. No replies. The FDA. Fool and Dunce Administration bans its intravenous use despite obvious evidence per theory that it helps (cytochrome enzyme chain) and true observations. If the epidemic were truly dangerous, H2O2 would have been encouraged and HCQ too. It’s a scam and yes I have encountered medical board backlash.
osted by Dobrien 2 months, 4 weeks ago to Drug used to treat head lice can kill COVID-19 cells (in lab testing only)
Hydroxychloroquine With a Zpack or Azythromycin. If the New Yellow Times hates it you have to wonder why.
The New York Times
Ignoring Expert Opinion, Trump Again Promotes Use of Hydroxychloroquine
2 hours ago · Mr. Trump's recommendation of hydroxychloroquine, for the second day in a row at a White House briefing, was a striking example of his brazen willingness to distort and outright defy expert ..
Well well ........They did not report this. Hmmmmm
New York doctor says he has successfully treated coronavirus patients' symptoms using hydroxychloroquine sulfate, zinc, and azithromycin.
Dr. Vladimir Zelenko is a registered family doctor in Monroe, New York, where he runs two clinics and has said he has successfully treated respiratory symptoms of 699 coronavirus patients using a cocktail of the drugs, including the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine, a derivative of chloroquine.
A groundbreaking new study commissioned by Revolver News concludes that COVID-19 lockdowns are ten times more deadly than the actual COVID-19 virus in terms of years of life lost by American citizens.
Up until this point there had been no simple, rigorous analysis that accurately and definitively conveys the true costs of the COVID-19 lockdowns. Accordingly, Revolver News set out to commission a study to do precisely that: to finally quantify the net damage of the lockdowns in terms of a metric known as “life-years.” Simply put, we have drawn upon existing economic studies on the health effects of unemployment to calculate an estimate of how many years of life will have been lost due to the lockdowns in the United States, and have weighed this against an estimate of how many years of life will have been saved by the lockdowns. The results are nothing short of staggering, and suggest that the lockdowns will end up costing Americans over 10 times as many years of life as they will save from the virus itself.
The COVID-19 lockdown measures that Americans have had to endure for the greater part of 2020 represent one of the most dramatic, consequential, and damaging policy measures undertaken in this nation’s history. For the first time in its history, America has experienced a situation so crippling and perilous that long term financial and social stability have been legitimately threatened.
Calculations Show COVID-19 “Cure” Is Worse Than Disease
Standard approaches to evaluating epidemic policy responses, involving the Value of a Statistical Life, have conceptual problems and are biased towards the elderly and rich.
Using a life-years criterion as an alternative shows that the lockdowns cost an order of magnitude more life-years than they saved.
Most of the publicized cost-benefit analyses of COVID-19 lockdowns have used coarse measures like lives as units rather than life-years, which misleads politicians and the general public. COVID-19 deaths disproportionately impact the oldest members of the population, whereas the economic impacts of lockdowns disproportionately harm the youngest of the working population, who have far greater life expectancies at the time of impact.
Using prior research on workforce entrants and recent graduates entering into a market marred by an economic recession, empirical estimates of life-years lost can be determined. Extensive research on job displacement can be used to estimate the economic impact in life-years of starkly increased unemployment for mid-to-late career workers.
Combining these analyses, we found that an estimated 18.7 million life-years will be lost in the United States due to the COVID-19 lockdowns. Comparative data analysis between nations shows that the lockdowns in the United States likely had a minimal effect in saving life-years. Using two different comparison groups, we estimate that the COVID-19 lockdowns in the U.S. saved between a quarter to three quarters of a million life-years.
Every broad age category lost life-years from the lockdowns including those 55 and older.
The media and state and local governments contributed to the panic by selectively presenting evidence on COVID-19 and shutdowns of dubious benefit.
Public health researchers and health economists gave poor policy advice and made selective use of the prior research literature. They will likely be rewarded, not punished, by academia for their failure because of academia’s biases.
Public health in general is so biased and vulnerable to motivated cognition that it is not “not yet ready for policy analysis.”
Then I HEARBY DECLARE The MEDIA and the BIG TECH have 220,000 DEATHS on their hands, and SHOULD BE SUED into OBLIVION!