Is name calling necessary?
Posted by minesayn 4 years, 8 months ago to Philosophy
Is it possible to have a discussion here without invoking name calling or snotty nicknames of those people who are disliked?
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Those we call out,..earned it and only have themselves to blame.
Would you still be respectful to someone that clearly does not respect you?
I'll agree, face to face...I'd love to say: "But I don't think of you, Mr Toohey."
Mankind's evolution into Conscious Introspection, something 60% of the population still has not achieved...including the majority of the "Ruleless" Delete class.
I guess what I am trying to say about name calling is this:
To me, if someone wishes to talk about a political leader, use their name as it is, not some made-up disparaging name. Why does it have to be insulting moniker? Am I making any sense here? Commander? edweaver? AJAshineoff? Abaco?
I, and many others here will not be drawn down into the emotional fray.....it's not reasonable. LOL
Why? You're fully entitled to the opinion you just gave.
Dinos just wanna have fun, yeah, dinos just wanna have fun.
Hey, hell's bell! where'd ah git thet thar from? Oh, yeah~~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIb6A...
Hey, wait a dern minute! Ah ain't no dad-blamed girl.
I too chuckle at the creativity to bring some of these .....expressions....... to bear. I also laugh in relief at how ignorant I have been and that I have rectified ....most...of my behaviors. I am fallible, everything is learned. I am ignorant of many things. To take pride in ignorance is Stupid.
Abaco, I would like to chuckle about it, but it is no longer humorous to me. It seems like the rational mind we all claim to have is hijacked by the language spewed forth. Yet, everyone here within this thread has been polite and making sense. Further,everyone of you has managed to be civil throughout (thank you for that), but can it be sustained in all the forum threads?
It seems to me that as soon as separatist terms (as you called it Commander) are used, the rationality of the arguments go out the window. Moreover, it almost leaves no room for any kind of dissenting opinion as one would be called out (as Abaco was irrationally called stupid).
We all are fans of Ayn Rand and Atlas Shrugged or otherwise we wouldn't be here, so is it too much to ask for polite civility even if we don't particular care for any one politician/person?
Thank you all for weighing with rational thoughts.
Ellsworth Toohey doesn’t exactly evoke strength and decency, does it? But Howard Roark does. How about Cuffy Meigs? Wesley Mouch? Sound like mooch? How bout John Galt? That’s a tough guy.
As to name calling, sometimes you just have to call it like it is.
I wouldn’t call anyone on this site a name, but I sure love me some political name calling!
With that said, I totally agree with civil discourse between people having a conversation on various forums, including this one. There is no reason for the folks that come here to be mean to each other in that way. However, there have been many examples of humorous/affectionate name calling between participants here in the Gulch. We all "get it" and have a good time.
Fair enough. I asked the question so I accept your answers especially considering that it has been civil discourse.
Good topic.
Perhaps if people stopped calling looters names, they'd focus their anger in more productive ways, like some people did in 1776.
Still thank you to everyone who weighed in with your opinion(s) on the query.
Sorry but I still know that person is likely what I called him way back then.😆
And yes, sometimes you need to unpack your adjectives.
I just leave and don't come back, and I really felt that this was to be a great place to discuss issues.
so while I may disagree, I am not going to express my opinion in such a way as to be rude.
It really wasn't a big deal and it did annoy me at the time but it worked out,
The Gulch has been a very good place to hash things out for quite some time. Most of the people I befriended here I still chat without outside the Gulch and I've even met a handful. Even so, my perspective tends to butt heads with some objectivist perspectives and things have gotten a bit heated but I think we all learned something.
The US is 320 million different people. A good portion of them are scary ignorant and hashing things out here (not clubbing them with ideology) can change peoples perspectives.
I respect Ayn Rand, she was a visionary but for me she was not 100% on target.
I know you won't miss the context....
Name calling is a byproduct of arrested development. The inability or lack of will to continue to question. Quest-I-On? or Quest-Shun? A choice.
Congregationalism is a concept of gathering where comfort is felt. Perhaps it is time to make a "push" on the comfort zones of the transgressors, I'll bet reasonable identification of the behavior results in angry insult.
Your thoughts?
I will be the first to admit that I don't like what some of Washington crowd does (their policies and philosophy), but I am not going to be rude about them.
Philosophical differences are one thing, but name calling, well...the point of the argument is lost when it becomes childish.
Defining the line when it is time to totally shrug is highly dependent on how invested you are in the current reality, especially when you love what you do.
I have moved from MN to eastern WI and have applied for 4 teaching positions in manufacturing tech. If accepted, will be income. Easy to make a living with my skill sets.
Impetus for decision; to look after my folks and to teach.
I'm currently, also, forming an authorship on the human condition. For a decade I have tried to punch holes in The Objectivist's Ethics. I have been putting the Declaration of Independence, The US Constitution and The Universal Declaration of Human Rights to test, against what I think is the most profound document in human history. Through this process I had to ask myself repeatedly about that which I had learned and the validity of the learning. I had to reflect on my bias through this learning; my percepts and precepts of what I am. I realize my bias may show in the metaphor of my language useage. I am changing my language, not to be placative; to be succinct. The most important discovery through this process has been the growing awareness of empathy I have. Discovering the more upset I became, the proportional care I had for the subject of discomfort.
I made a profound choice. Not to enjoin in rhetoric; to seek solution at the most fundamental level. Not to use terminology of separatism; to use that of inclusivity. To understand that there are 7.5 billion personalities on this planet and that we share 3 common aspects; comfort / discomfort, happiness / unhappiness, equitable or inequitable interaction, Regarding this post, the use of derogatory, defaming language....is learned, somewhere, to be acceptable exchange. We are what we learn. If children were to use some of the epithets I have seen here......I'd wonder as to what kind of congregation / group they'd been exposed to or were growing up within that accepted those expressions.
I'll never shrug from humanity. My Gulch is within me. From First Nation's Lakota: Mitakuye Oyasin! We are all related!
This forum is dense with those who have not arrested their development for the comfort of the congregation. We are in great company here.