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"Oh, I'm so angry I can't continue!!" Same. When these conversations come up my favorite phrase is, "Pleeeease don't get me started!". It seems the teaching of any history nowadays is an Orwellian memory hole experience of the real history and the party's spin on what it thinks you need to know. The federal Department of "Indoctrination" is right on top of that shift.

Sorry you are mistaken . 2 dates , one was 9/11 when Greenberg wrote it and the other was when it was posted. Good try though.

Errata: Errata: I just re-read this and must have been in a hurry, because what Obamma said was that medicare was subsidizing private health care; when I had explained that private health care was subsidizing medicare. I think you all understood anyway.

My 2015 post was correct. Except for the date of the speech, but in my mind it seemed it was early 2010, when all that other stuff was going on, Deep Water Horizon spill, due to sabotage, death of Michael Jackson, all the grisly things I'd like to forget. And then McCrystal resigned.

Errata: I just re-read this and must have been in a hurry, because what Obamma said was that medicare was subsidizing private health care; when I had explained that private health care was subsidizing medicare.

China meme too made up . Jay Greenberg died
August 12, 2021 (aged 71)

Here's how I explained it in January 2015 on another social media platform:

With the advent of Medicare/Medicaid Pay-As-You-Go healthcare plans, and therefore limited government funding (but unlimited government coercion), healthcare providers were forced to accept government contracts, where in some years government paid only 35-45% (Medicare) and 18-20% (Medicaid) of billed costs. Private insurance plans and contracts paid considerable more than that, up to 90% or even 100%, in the case of self-pay. As providers accepted more and more Medicare and Medicaid (grudgingly), the income they needed to pay costs, salaries and capital investment dwindled. To make ends meet, billed costs were adjusted upward, and obviously, healthcare insurers were bearing the greater burden of payments. Each year, then, with each negotiated government or private contracts, costs escalated, spiraled, actually. The end result is that private insurers subsidized Medicare and Medicaid payments. That is, insurers were paying the costs for Medicare-Medicaid patients, not government.

I tried explaining this to Socialist Obama, but in his now famous (or is it infamous) speech of 2010, he stated that Medicare was subsidizing private healthcare insurers. All of Congress then stood up and applauded. I WAS FURIOUS!!

What I'll always wonder: Did BHO intentionally turn the subsidy relation around, or is he simply incapable of understanding the economics of it?
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And then I added:
I believe that:
1) He doesn't understand, and
2) He wanted to believe the reverse.

And now, knowing more about the thinking of black folk than I did back then, I believe I was right: both are correct. The cause and effect relationship confused him, and he wanted to think capitalism was immoral anyway. In fact he believed I was immoral because I was a capitalist.
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To continue the original post of 2015:
So that the end result would be the installation of Socialized Medicine in America.

I told him, if Obamacare was passed, first insurers would go broke, then the government would go broke. I found out later that he wanted the capitalist insurers to go broke.

((Projection for these people is completely unconscious.))

I think I might be one of those digital soldiers. Like you too. Only thing is, the president doesn't own me. Obamma thought he did.

He's a good guy, then. He's speaking at Young America Foundation, talking about social media influence. His words could be taken for approbation for the opposite side as well. Confusing when I don't know what he said before or after.

Oh, in reference to my statement about the Left using ammunition that is the twisted version of the truth, watch in the next few days for more smearing of Trump as dictator.

Obamma was the tyrant, not Trump. He was with me, and others as well.

Yes, it appears autism, which is hard to diagnose in any case, and can sometimes be used when no other syndrome can be made responsible for the symptoms, is the catch-all for the torts people looking for free cash go for.

Shoot, Captain, I made a mistake. I posted my reply to you, but somehow it made it on a post to Dobrien. Here it is again:

Sorry, I don't use Rumble, too crowded.

But I want to tell you there is a time for certain things to be done, and the time isn't here yet. As I said too many Lib/Marxist/Socialists running around still. Did you read my comment about how Obamma completely turned my mathematically proven 'advise' around?

Here's the post:

To explain the gutting of the American healthcare system, let me first explain that I worked in the industry in the 'eighties, researched and studied the situation, and due to my math background, as other wise persons also knew, realized what was happening.

And that was this: Providers---hospitals, clinics, and doctors---contract with the government, and private insurers, to discount prices and rates. The Medicare contractual was upwards of fifty percent off, and Medicaid up to 70% discount. Contracts with private insurers were not even close to those amounts. The upshot is that in order to stay in business, providers had to raise their prices to extra-governmental payors. So, in essence, private healthcare insurers were subsidizing Medicare and Medicaid. (Private pay was never contractualized.) Pretty easy to understand, right?

But as an unwilling 'advisor' to the government, at that time, I explained all this. Yet in his September 2009 speech to Congress, Obamma perverted the concept, actually twisted the rationale and reasoning, and said that private insurers were subsidizing Medicare and Medicaid. Which was evil itself, as it was anti-math and anti-reason.

But even more evil, and this is when I realized there was rottenness in this country, ALL OF CONGRESS stood up and applauded! Applauded the perversion of reason itself!!

9 Days Ago.

I don't want to give the adversary anymore ammunition than they need. It is true they are definitely feeling the loss and can't quite get up the logic or rationality to attempt to defend that loss. Yet. Better to keep them in the dark.

I thought I posted that last comment for Captain Kirk. Can't figure out that happened. Just disregard what I wrote.

Now I'll have to track down my conversation with the good Captain and write it all over again.

(Are you sure you didn't try a fast one on me?!)

Try the 1 min video of Gen Flynn. He will tell you. Sheesh you are so busy.

specifically to the one case of a child getting autism
from the vaccines. And both parents were doctors.
they settled the case and got millions.
But also signed an NDA to not disclose.

If they would have went to court. Vaccines for children would have been on shaky grounad.

My understanding is that Autism is now officially listed as a side-effect of vaccines because of this case, and that immediately exonerates the drug companies!

Source or link not possible. I've read/listened to so many books and movies. Over the decades.

Some of this came from the Del Bigtree movie. The one where they used the Video tapes parents sent in showing days after vaccination, their child was DIFFERENT.

Of course you try hard . What a lame ass excuse “ Rumble is to crowded “ it’s a video ment to explain Q . What does too crowded even mean. I was wrong to give you the benefit of doubt.

Sounds like some kind of code and underground resistance. Are you giving me the key?

Okay, well, I have some other things to do right now, but I'll email myself, with a date say, in a month or so.

Sorry, I don't use Rumble, too crowded.

But I want to tell you there is a time for certain things to be done, and the time isn't here yet. As I said too many Lib/Marxist/Socialists running around still. Did you read my comment about how Obamma completely turned my mathematically proven 'advise' around?

Here's the post:

To explain the gutting of the American healthcare system, let me first explain that I worked in the industry in the 'eighties, researched and studied the situation, and due to my math background, as other wise persons also knew, realized what was happening.

And that was this: Providers---hospitals, clinics, and doctors---contract with the government, and private insurers, to discount prices and rates. The Medicare contractual was upwards of fifty percent off, and Medicaid up to 70% discount. Contracts with private insurers were not even close to those amounts. The upshot is that in order to stay in business, providers had to raise their prices to extra-governmental payors. So, in essence, private healthcare insurers were subsidizing Medicare and Medicaid. (Private pay was never contractualized.) Pretty easy to understand, right?

But as an unwilling 'advisor' to the government, at that time, I explained all this. Yet in his September 2009 speech to Congress, Obamma perverted the concept, actually twisted the rationale and reasoning, and said that private insurers were subsidizing Medicare and Medicaid. Which was evil itself, as it was anti-math and anti-reason.

But even more evil, and this is when I realized there was rottenness in this country, ALL OF CONGRESS stood up and applauded! Applauded the perversion of reason itself!!

9 Days Ago.

I don't want to give the adversary anymore ammunition than they need. It is true they are definitely feeling the loss and can't quite get up the logic or rationality to attempt to defend that loss. Yet. Better to keep them in the dark.

ThanQ FFA, funny you get more thumbs up agreeing with my statement than my statement. I suspect who down voted me. To him I say” I am impressed by your commitment to stupidity.”

Here is Gen Flynn talking about this https://www.google.com/search?client=...

If you are serious in your Quest to learn more after the background info above . I can give you tips to navigate Qalerts.

SpiritWoman , Watch the videos above so you can understand . Of course from my experience most won’t take the time. Because you said “I try hard” I give you the benefit of the doubt. These are the Q messages. https://qalerts.app/ starting at the last messages you will see they are numbered and dated.

In Nv you will have to show pic id next time !!!

https://rumble.com/v375t7v-q-the-plan...

Q drop # 4908
The Great Awakening
Sometimes you can't TELL THE public the truth.
YOU MUST SHOW THEM.
ONLY THEN WILL PEOPLE FIND THE WILL TO CHANGE.
Crimes against children unite all humanity [cross party lines]?
Difficult truths.
Q

Mr. D, pardon my ignorance (I try hard, but...) but I have no idea what a Q drop is.