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  • Posted by scojohnson 10 years, 5 months ago
    I grew up in northern Minnesota sandwiched between Chippewa, Dakota, and Sioux tribal reservations, they adapt just fine. Funniest thing I ever saw was watching the natives "fish" in Red Lake, MN... just toss a stick of dynamite over the boat, wait for the blast, then scoop up the stunned or dead ones as they float to the surface. One "cast" equals about 30 walleye pike... quite a bit more efficient than the way the 'white man' does it.

    They adapt just fine.
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  • Posted by mckenziecalhoun 10 years, 5 months ago
    So now we're not only going to have our ecological mismanagement as part of our history, our conquering of the First Americans as part of our oppressive past, but we're now forcing our stereotypes of First Americans upon them in the name of ecology.

    Is any other group being subjected to this? Do they really think all First American tribes lived in balance with nature?

    Why just First Americans? I can think of a lot of places that could use a LOT more attention regarding ecology.
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    • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 5 months ago
      Man is not meant to live in "balance" with nature. Our inability to "fit in" with our environments is what forged us into the creatures we are today.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 5 months ago
    Setting aside the article's snide tone, I don't understand why we have to spend any money to mitigate climate change. This is change that is happening slowly over generations. There's more weather variation than the 1C of ave climate change. The 1C will turn into 2C and then maybe more, adn that average will be very costly, but we don't need monies spent on general mitigation. We need to be building wealth for when the costs appear and finding geoengineering technologies to control the climate. This program is rationalizing spending money using the name of something that's a real long-term threat.
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    • Posted by teri-amborn 10 years, 5 months ago
      If we get any more climate change here in the North, we will no longer have a growing season.
      Perhaps California weighs too much when factoring in mathematical models.
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      • Posted by scojohnson 10 years, 5 months ago
        "Climate" is what you get over a period of decades... "Weather" is what you get this year. Unfortunately, too many people (and scientists) I think confuse the two.

        As we saw this year, little things can have big effects... like a shift in the pattern of the jet stream moving north a bit and pulling Canadian arctic air into the midwest freezes out the midwestern states.

        In California, we've had a high pressure zone (typically hotter air) parked over California for going on a couple of years that forces the moisture we usually get from the Pacific to route north & south, and Washington State is drowning in floods & mudslides (the rain we usually get in the winter and our soil absorbs it better).

        Is that stuff climate change? Probably not. But if they become a normal "pattern", the actual temperature change doesn't matter as much as how it shifts where moisture is deposited versus where cold & snow is dumped. I live along a lakeshore in Northern California, or what used to be one, right now, it's about a one-mile walk (downhill) past the beach to where you find some water...
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