Masculinity under attack and the consequences

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Tucker Carlson Doing a series of reports starting with this one on the crisis American Men are experiencing. The initial link doesn't include the
Interview w/ a professor who has studied this here is the conclusion of Tucker's segment.https://youtu.be/68EiD_LzmWY
SOURCE URL: http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/03/07/tucker-carlson-men-america-toxic-masculinity-blame-male-failures


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  • Posted by chad 6 years, 8 months ago
    Very reasoned arguments about what is happening to shape the perceived role of men in the society as opposed to what it should be in reality.
    I am semi-retired and drive a school bus. For the most part women run the transportation department and their attitudes reflect the current accepted value of men. I struggled to comply with all of their bureaucratic rules and maintain order on the bus. It was chaos, the children were in control and they knew it. Finally in frustration I threw out all of their forms and rules. Parked the bus one day and told the kids we weren't going to follow the rules requiring tickets and permission from the bureaucracy to remove them from the bus. From now on if someone misbehaved and I told them they were off the bus that was it, they were off. In two days it went from chaos to children behaving, they knew that I meant it when I said they were going to be punished. Besides being in charge I used some of the children to help seat and monitor kids. I also spent time rewarding them when they were good and no participation trophies! Soon kids wanted to be a bus monitor and help. The problem kids simmered down and quit being disrespectful. Don't wait for permission to do what is right, just do it. Transportation administration and school administration are upset about not being in charge, I don't care, told them this is how it will be, I do not seek their permission, if they want they can fire me but they cannot make me behave in a way that permits misbehavior on the bus.
    I demand and expect the boys to be polite to the girls and let them board first. The children have quickly learned what I expect of them and realize also that I will protect them. On a recent field trip as the students were boarding I overheard one teenage boy tell the other students who had not ridden my bus before; "That's Mr. Chad. When he says sit down he means it!" The teachers that chaperoned the trip were amazed at how well behaved the students were. Being a good man does not require being mean but it does require patience, firmness and reward for behavior that merits the reward.
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    • Posted by $ blarman 6 years, 8 months ago
      Well done, indeed!

      My daughter (middle school) tells me that her bus is run pretty much the way your boss's rules are - and has the same consequences. I can remember when I rode the bus and the driver (Ed Aagaard - I still remember it because of all the "a's") was like you - he didn't put up with any disrespect - and I never heard any foul language on the bus, everyone sat down and behaved, and no problems.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 6 years, 8 months ago
    The school system is bad, and has been since the 90s. As a mom, I saw them discouraging grade school boys from being into toy guns and trucks, trying to feminize them. but we taught, our daughtercars are cool, she had toy guns, she is not a terrorist. They did not have the agenda to raise up females, but to control all.Boys were sent to MDs for Ritalin, some of whom needed an allergist instead. Our pediatrician sent a lettr to the school, that it was the teachers who were inadequate, and most of their referrals were normal kids. It is not enough to teach kids any sex can enjoy typically boy or girl activities, they have to make girls obnoxious and boys wimps. Yes, I was seeing the anger with boys, and I was fighting constantly to make sure our daughter did not pick up the feminist crap while still knowing she could do whatever her talent and IQ set before he.I was earlier pushed toward "women's studies" in college, and dismayed a professor when I said I would go with the white European male model, as it included talented women.I told her I had no interest in reading about domestic female terrorists or radials who might have hit the front page. I never felt the need of what are now the "pink had broads" around me, I was taught to be an individual, who happens to have an IQ in the top 2%.
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    • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
      You are a truly remarkable women. It is apparent your reasoning and rationality are tremendous. :)
      Enjoy this great day! This woman is on to it all https://youtu.be/DDyDtYy2I0M
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      • Posted by $ Stormi 6 years, 8 months ago
        thank you. This is why, regardless of what the lesbians think, kids of both sexes need dads in their lives. My mom was alive until I was 16, but usually passed out drunk. We had a vast number of books, and she did encourage reading. However, it was my dad who got me access to the adult library when my reading was above the kids' library. It was dad who modeled a love of capitalism, common sense, and hard work. He shared his love of cars from when I was little, shared business with me as a teen. He decided I needed to know about sewing so got me in a class one summer. He expected good grades. Above all, he made me happy to be a girl, but he let me know it was okay to try any skill or fun activity. As a result, I felt the same about boys, they had those rights as well. Like Rosie Grier who did football and needlepoint! We should embrace who we are, but not make a limiting thing. There is no need to take masculinity out of boys. It seems the feminist are to afraid of masculinity, and try to stamp it out, changing themselves into irrational beings in the process. Dad's matter.
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        • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
          My wife's parents were absent in her childhood because of Alcohol. I drank more booze from 15-21 then from 21-60 (our married years so far)

          Like yourself she choose the self improvement
          Vs the self-destructive life.
          It is kind of interesting because she is a tremendous mom and now grandma. I attribute a lot of that to her recognizing the void in her youth.
          Makes me think of an old standby saying.
          It's not so much what happens to you , it's what you do about it that matters.
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          • Posted by $ Stormi 6 years, 8 months ago
            Congratulations on the many years of marriage, we are now pat 40 years.
            I was lucky to have a good dad, even thought he spent a lot of time working. He raised me to be strong and see life realistically. Mom was lost in some 40smovie version of what life should be, as was her sister, both dying form alcohol related illness in their 40s.Then,in 9th grade I got into Latin, for four years, which opened me to philosophy, and ultimately to Ayn Rand. It was philosophy which let me see that we are here now, and it does not matter what went before, it is what we do from that point on that matters, our choice. My husband is not a drinker, which was a choice. He modeled hard work for our daughter, responsible living, and fun in sports and cars. She now works 50 hours a week and drives a Charger, which she is the most fun car she has ever had. Ever notice how many feminist hate men, Behar said she likes being married, but not living with a husband. They never seem to move forward, always looking for someone to blame.
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            • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
              Thanks and same to you. It's a refreshing thing for me to communicate with like minded folks.

              Re:Ayn Rand I was asking my dad what in the world these politicians are thinking. His answer was to read Atlas Shrugged. That was just a couple of years ago. I have tried to get probably a dozen people to read or listen on cd . 1 and 1/2 took me up on it. My brother loved it and a liberal friend who quit half way cause he didn't understand it.
              I did read it out loud to my wife after I first finished it. She likes me to read to her. Although she did cut me off after 100 pages of John Galts speech promising that she gets it already. LOL
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              • Posted by $ Stormi 6 years, 8 months ago
                I also recommend AS to people a lot. However, I judge if they are readers, and start small with either "Anthem" or "Fountainhead" if they are not readers. My mail carrier loved "Fountainhead". Our daughter read "Anthem" in 5th grade and understood it, but her IQ is in the top 1%. She has found herself working as COO with a bunch of guys who are Rand fans, to the point of having quotes up in the offices. It was the best setting for her. I have walked into restaurants wearing a shirt with Rand quote, and people come up and are so happy to find someone else who has read Rand. I worry that today's students don't like to read, have short attention spans, and are less likely to discover Rand. In fact, they are not likely to have read any philosophy. it is to their own detriment and makes them more susceptible to "talking points" - less likely to think for themselves.
                I have a friend who retired to Atlanta, and he and I are like minded and share conversations via e-mail. I went to school with Tom DeWeese (American Policy Center), and we have talked on the phone or e-mailed over the years, he is a huge Rand fan. My broker and one doctor have also read AS, which puts them higher on my list as thinking people. Reading is okay if it is hard, I remember my first Dostoevsky in high school, and it was hard, but you stick with it. My husband is a big reader, and varied topics interest him. When one reads, one topic leads to another, and you end up with information on a broad base of topics. I love philosophy, but also history, cars (Richard Petty's autobio.), English novels, architecture, science, Japanese writer Soseki, Argentine writer Jorge Borges. We translated from Latin, the writing of Cicero and Virgil, maybe that gave me more patience for hard reading. I wish teachers would urge kids to read, not tell them they on't like reading either, which I heard two do locally!
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                • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
                  Like minds think alike. Many adults I query only read the paper. I quit the paper three years ago!
                  Trashy propaganda.
                  You drink in life when you expand your horizons.
                  I am a broker also. My favorite subject to read about are the ancient civilizations . mythology
                  All history except I don't like war books generally.
                  But I did read with fascination Joseph Gallaway an imbedded reporter in Vietnam's book about a battle they were thrust in.
                  A great book but a tough read because the names of the natives were so unfamiliar and different was "The European discovery of Tahiti"
                  I love to read Graham Hancock's books on the lost and forgotten civilization's.
                  Currently thanks to Freedomforall on this forum.
                  I have been reading Robert Heinlein ( he is soooo
                  Good). I can't even imagine not liking reading.
                  But I do hear it all the time.
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                  • Posted by $ Stormi 6 years, 8 months ago
                    I also like Heinlein. My husband is a CPA, but prefers to read history over taxes. He actually enjoyed the O'Reilly series on George Washington and the fight against England.I have recently been reading more Churchill. I also have read about the American Indians and the Southwest, as I grew up out there, then traveled back several time to show my husband where I lived, he loves it. t As for work, I started in computers, with a business school background in them, in the 60s, working at OSU Dairy Research, then the CPA firm where I met my husband, then to a Machine Tool Co., where I was for 10 years. All those places were just starting in computers, and it was perfect timing, I even worked as a consultant for the CPA firm to convert the county real estate records and tax billing to computer. I While at the CPA firm, I took classes and completed an accounting program, so I could better expand there. Later I quit it all and went back and got an Associates in Communications. Then a BA in both English and Philosophy, with minors in Political Science and Biology. After that I worked in DeWine's Congressional Office, then was a reporter at a newspaper for several years.Now, I am back working as part of our family accounting business. My passion now is architecture, esp. Frank Lloyd Wright and builder Joseph Eichler. I have shelves of books on philosophy, architecture and history. I read a lot on communism as well, esp. Mao - know your enemy. I find it interesting that JFK read Jahan's book on importance of Sea power, but now the Chinese red it, but our leaders have never read it. Oh, on a whim, I once took a vet assistant course as well, it helped when we had horses, but I never worked at it. Our daughter has read endlessly, has two Masters Degrees, just loves to learn.,
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                    • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
                      ++++++++ That is a life well lived so far.
                      Next stop congress? We are going to need someone like you after the swamp is drained.
                      Thanks for the bio.
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                      • Posted by $ Stormi 6 years, 8 months ago
                        Found politics too inauthentic. I actually passed out flyers for the JFK election. Became Conservative along the way, but found politics was about getting reelected, not doing the right thing.I encountered a po\olitiacl office head whose claim to fame was a
                        masters in Education" - grat. When I reviewed a letter she was about to send to CEOS, it was full of grammatical errors. She argued with me, but with a call to the head of the local college English dept., she threw the letter at me, told me to send it out, and left for the day to pout. That is politics. That coupled with the James Bond annabe who hit on me daily, and I finally had my fill. Actually, the most rational job was in a corp. headquarters for an Intl. Tool and Die company, where I did some taxes, collections, A/R,cash receipts and G/L account reconciliations. There was a sense of product, common sense and reality-based dept. heads. My thinking boss, the Comptroller, did not believe in dept supervisorss, and cut the staff in half, with everyone responsible to only him. It worked well. Can you see government doing that, they would add staff. I am happily retired now, except for our small out of home business, where I am the IT person, and some accounting, with my husband doing most of that, but none of the IT.
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 6 years, 8 months ago
    Men and women are different. If they wern't there wouldn't be any men and women.
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    • Posted by Solver 6 years, 8 months ago
      Watch the future. Right now we live in a degraded world where saying, a man is a man, can be punished as hate speech on some campuses.
      The thought police are here now! Will the people fight back?
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      • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
        The battle is full on I call it the "uncivil war".
        Recently the white hats have called it the Storm.
        Either way it is on the liberal pukes " useful idiots will be self imploding when the Thousands of sealed indictments are served. The treasonous seditious enemies who have led this country are about to be held accountable.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 6 years, 8 months ago
    I'm kind of the patriarch in our family, but am not a tyrant or a pushover. When my niece asked me what kind of concept I went by, I replied that I followed the Celtic warrior model, where a real man had to be able to dance, sing, write poetry, and bring home the heads of his enemies on his chariot. Although somewhat liberal, she liked that image.
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    • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
      As an artist and an athlete I have found it amusing
      How some men feel their masculinity does not allow for more delicate activities.
      I have confidence in who I am and what I am all about. My wife has described me as a rugged
      Romantic.
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      • Posted by DrZarkov99 6 years, 8 months ago
        I've never had time for practicing the arts, but I do have an appreciation of them. I married an artist, and have enjoyed how she expanded my awareness. She enjoys the fact that I can cry when I hear a sad or tragic story without trying to hide the fact, but gets irritated when I seem to pretend an injury is of no consequence. I have tried to explain to her I'm entirely logical, in that if things are still moving, I reason that I'm OK. It isn't that I'm trying to project some tough guy image, but she still has a hard time accepting it (particularly when I'm getting blood all over the place).
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  • Posted by Solver 6 years, 8 months ago
    You can just cringe thinking about all the future consequences upcoming up when tough questions like, “Are there differences between men and women?” are asked in today’s colleges.

    https://youtu.be/-4S0gHlKiho
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    • Posted by term2 6 years, 8 months ago
      Just like there are differences in most animals, I think there are differences in humans too. It would be best to judge each animal and person individually, but frankly there isnt time for that in todays world.

      Generalizations are used to speed up the process, and although not 100% accurate, they do give a more efficient way to overcome the lying and deceit thats used today by so many people.

      That said, women in general are in my experience more emotionally driven than men. Of course, thats not anywhere near 100% the case, as there are lots of ridiculously emotionally driven men too. But, its a start. I dont want to vote for women in politics, as with RARE exceptions they have liberal views and take liberal actions.
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  • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
    An example of how this message is expressed and spread. By destroyers like this.
    Never saw this movie but my guess is it bombed?
    The last Jedi.
    The Last Jedi has Kathleen Kennedy’s fingerprints all over it. She’s a Berkley educated liberal-feminist who was groomed by Hollywood men, told she had good ideas and was given powerful positions without having to do all that much… kind of like Rey.
    All the men in The Last Jedi are cowards, failures, inept, or suffer from toxic masculinity. The women know better then them must save the men from their masculinity. It’s the mindset of an arrogant woman who for years has put up with the men around her (remember Hollywood is a cesspool) and believes herself to be some beacon of feminine light in the darkness. Burning the tree of the Force is setting fire the the patriarchy. The subtext of The Last Jedi is very deep and very post-modern. It’s a reflection of Queen Kennedy. It’s also why they had to destroy what Star Wars meant to us and why half the audience hates this film.
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    • Posted by $ pixelate 6 years, 8 months ago
      As a 52 year old who enjoyed the Star Wars films from the very beginning, I did see "The Last Jedi" on the big screen -- two reasons:
      1. I figured that I was eventually going to see it -- so do it up big.
      2. The theater were I saw it was new and included swell individual lounge chair seating and amazing surround sound.
      In any case -- the film was deplorable. The plot itself was weak ... to laughably absurd. There was a large bit that was only in the picture as a means to decry capitalism. The way that the male characters are portrayed as incompetent was beyond cringe-worthy. The purple-haired admiral was the embodiment of a feminist bureaucratic monstrosity. Many of the supporting characters filled out the screen simply as a means to promote the far-left progressive dogma.
      As you indicated, this Rey character comes from nowhere and has all of these amazing powers. It reminded me a little bit of John Galt -- leaving home at the age of 12 (John's father is mentioned in one sentence) ... and John goes on to stop the motor of the world. The fundamental difference is that John Galt has a rationale for all of his actions; he has a guiding philosophy and is implementing a very methodical step-by-step plan to achieve his goals. This Rey character is really just a zero that has been deigned to have powers without reason or direction.
      Last Jedi was not much fun to watch. I compare it to Return of the Jedi from 34 years earlier . . . RTOJ had a well-stitched together plot, suspense, consistency and a truly satisfying ending. It will be interesting to see just how much worse the next Star Wars film will be in a couple years.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 6 years, 8 months ago
        I have seen three movies at the theatre in 10 years- Atlas Shrugged. I don't even consider going and supporting my enemies any more. Don't waste your money. The sooner leftist biased hollywood goes bankrupt the better.
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        • Posted by Lucky 6 years, 8 months ago
          Yes, and, I suggest it is hollywood movies that has spread a peculiar gun culture among the deranged which is absent in movies from Japan, England, France, Sweden, India, Israel, Iran, etc.
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years, 8 months ago
      Me dino has not seen The Last Jedi either.
      This is the first Star Wars flick I have not first seen in a theater and I have no intention to.
      When I do see it first and I will out of sheer curiosity, it will be with a Netflix DVD rental.
      So far I've DVD collected every Star Wars flick that's not animated (when the price came down), including Rogue One, A Star Wars Story, which reminded me of a made during World War Two USA propaganda flick.
      Will me dino add The Last Jedi to my collection?
      I may just to round it out. We'll see. I'll have plenty of time to decide after seeing it.
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 8 months ago
    I have noticed a lot of advertising showing the stupid man being made a fool of by women. Its annoying, and I dont buy the products that advertise that way. Its just another way liberals are putting their political agendas as more important than the products they sell. I take them at their word, and figure if THEY think so little of their products, I will too.
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    • Posted by davidmcnab 6 years, 8 months ago
      Ads which ridicule men and make women appear the wiser and more competent ones are endemic throughout Australasian media. Marketers choose that approach when promoting a product where the women make the purchase decision. By buying a certain cleaning product or model of car, they get to feel superior to the men around them.

      Same as how a lot of women-targeting ads use actresses younger than the women being targeted, to appeal to the women's inner desire to feel a bit younger.
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      • Posted by term2 6 years, 8 months ago
        They backfire on me, however. I resent being portrayed as some dumb idiot compared to women (who are generally emotionally motivated and not as practical as men). They dont have to show women being superior to men or vice versa. Stick the benefits of their product or service, and let me make my own decision.
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    • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
      Good for you . I have observed the deliberate
      ridiculing of men through out the entertainment industry, the media and advertising. Is this a result
      of more women making corporate decisions as they advance up the ladder.
      Notice all the interracial families and non traditional portrayed in ads. It seems to me to be disproportionally to reality , I guess I could be wrong. But it does smell of manipulation.
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      • Posted by term2 6 years, 8 months ago
        It IS manipulation and political correctness. I have US bank account, and most of their web pages feature blacks. Way out of proportion to the population. I have been tempted to email them, but I know it would go into the trash.
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        • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
          If you were to see the % of profits from their deposits from the different groups. it is as you say way out of proportion.
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          • Posted by term2 6 years, 8 months ago
            Absolutely. PC at its worst is what it is. I am tired of seeing representatives of the entitled black race plastered everywhere as if they were the only ones around. Makes me LESS tolerant of blacks actually. This was due to Obama, forcing blacks on me. Never works.
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            • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
              We all know that Obama the traitor did all he could to try to start a race war. So did Charles Manson.
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              • Posted by term2 6 years, 8 months ago
                maybe Obama just was the supreme entitled black, with hatred for whites. I can tell you that there is a lot LESS tolerance of blacks by whites, and probably less tolerance of whites by blacks since Obama.
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                • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
                  I find whites to be very tolerant of blacks in Minnesota. But no tolerance the other way around. Blacks for the majority have been brainwashed that they are victims when in fact that is not true. their ancestors certainly were but they are all dead now.
                  Of course I am speaking generally
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                  • Posted by term2 6 years, 8 months ago
                    I.have noticed the same attitudes in Las Vegas. I keep feeling I need to tell black people that it WASNT ME who brought their ancestors over here. And i certainly didn’t enslave YOU today
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                  • Posted by term2 6 years, 8 months ago
                    I was always race neutral. Since Obama I now notice race more. I also am tired of being called racist to the point I really want to avoid any constant with them
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                  • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
                    In my county the last three murders have been a black man killing his White girl friend .The last one Was 9mos pregnant with his son and had attended several BLM rallies with her executioner in the months before her demise.
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    • Posted by mccannon01 6 years, 8 months ago
      Actually, term2, it's much more specific. It isn't just "stupid male", it's "stupid white male". I avoid buying products advertised that way as well.
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      • Posted by term2 6 years, 8 months ago
        yeah, you are right. It IS white males, not black or other minority males
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        • Posted by mccannon01 6 years, 8 months ago
          I dislike the idea of coming off like a "white male bigot", but after getting my proverbial face slapped over and over again just for being white, male, and heterosexual by these ad and entertainment types my guard is up and I see it coming even before they bring out the insult. There was a time Subway was one of my favorite places to get a sandwich, but for a while their "stupid white male" ads were so obnoxious I can no longer go there.
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          • Posted by term2 6 years, 8 months ago
            I find that black people, various minorities, and women are definitely favored in advertising. I just tune them out and the companies that put on those ads. If they think so little of their product that they have to resort to this political correctness nonsense to get people to buy it- they dont need my business.
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            • Posted by mccannon01 6 years, 8 months ago
              I could care less what color, ethnicity, or gender the participants are in an ad or how prolific they are, but this constant "slapping around" white people and especially white males just "because they can" gets my dander up. I lived through the civil rights movement of the '60s and'70s and one of the complaints was the disrespect, with a few notable exceptions, non-whites suffered in the ad and entertainment industries. The complaints were often valid and, rightly so, that had to change. Likewise, the ad and entertainment industries should not have leave to constantly disrespect white people, either.

              I figure it's all part of inculcating the "New Jim Crow" into our society. The old Jim Crow was essentially a system of legal and social constructs designed to favor a particular race or people (white) and the New Jim Crow is the exact same thing except it favors anybody but white. Any "Jim Crow" is a bad thing and we're going down that same road as before. No good came of it before and no good will come of it again.
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              • Posted by term2 6 years, 8 months ago
                It’s affected my feelings about blacks now. I just don’t want to even interact with them. I used to be totally race-neutral since I was a kid.
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            • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
              Think about the repulsive retailers who dropped Trumps dress line after The evil hag fell on her face. Shareholders should have demanded they be fired for ignoring their fiduciary duty. Because it was a best selling item.
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              • Posted by term2 6 years, 8 months ago
                Its all about PC in our culture now. Thats one of the great thnigs about Trump. He doesnt care about PC and is inspiring us to not care either.
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                • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
                  The first time I heard anyone publicly address
                  The dangers and the consequences of Political correctness was Dr Ben Carson.
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                  • Posted by term2 6 years, 8 months ago
                    PC has been rearing its ugly head for awhile now. I noticed it during the Obama years with the constant claim of racism. If you like vanilla ice cream is seems that can be twisted into an indication of raciam.... Now its renewed claims of sexual harrassment, and claims of god knows what if you espouse any sort of conservative view, particularly in colleges.
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          • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
            Hi Mccannon01 ,
            The left implies that it is bigotry to disagree with any part of its agenda.
            Corporate adds representing PC is a trend similar to TV Shows .It has gotten to a point of being a ridiculous Invasion to the senses I think it started with Socially Conscious investing.
            A couple of decades ago. Then the endowments
            Jumped on the band wagon.
            Initially it was all about the environment and the evil oil companies. Wall Street embraced the idea like they do any scheme. If a company still wanted to make their poison but dress up the pig they would add a minority to the adds and "be more
            Inclusive" since it has grown like cancer.
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            • Posted by mccannon01 6 years, 8 months ago
              Hi Dobrien. I just left a reply to term2 above and I suppose it would fit here as well. Additionally, the leftward PC propaganda machine has been at work for some time and some of the feed is quite subtle. Once you see it for what it is, it no longer escapes your view. It may have been prior for me, but I believe I first caught on to it during the mid '90s movie "Robin Hood" staring Kevin Costner. Since I knew some of the history behind the legend I couldn't understand why Robin Hood needed a black African sage (in ca. 1180ad England!) to guide him. Not only that, but the "sage" had a telescope that wasn't invented until a Dutchman came up with one in 1608. I guess the Hollywood writers had to make sure the stupid white male did the right thing. Since then, black sages have been showing up all over the place to make sure stupid white people do the right thing. Whatever!
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    • Posted by $ pixelate 6 years, 8 months ago
      I stopped watching Tee-Vee nearly 20 years ago ... as such, I see very little of the advertising. However, there are a few monitors at my local fitness center -- and I will sometimes take part in viewing the content that is piped downstream to the general public in the context of 'entertainment' -- In any event, I have noticed a similar phenomena ... the middle-class white hetro-male is depicted as a nincompoop. I shrug in disgust and try to keep tabs on which products to avoid.
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  • Posted by Solver 6 years, 8 months ago
    A lot of this kind of illogical crap has been preached by the cult of pathological Marxists, a.k.a. Cultural Marxists, for a while now.
    Summary: white man cause of all problems. Every one else victim. Hate white man! No debate allowed or leftists get triggered by your “micro aggression” and can then violently lash out.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 6 years, 8 months ago
    WOW!, knew it was bad but didn't know just how bad it was.

    Many things goin on here besides being blamed for something that doesn't exist anymore.
    WE ARE NOT TO BLAME FOR THINGS 100/400 yeas ago!!!

    Somehow, we need to encourage Males in society today, eat right for your blood type, (we were just discussing that and my own experience) or at least, stop the junk food, stop the process food and drugs, (legal and illegal). Clean you body, inside and out and CLEAN UP YOUR ACT.

    A healthy society needs manly men, (not perversely aggressive but ethically competitive) and womanly women, (not bimbos but self assured and with self esteem).

    Men and women cannot live without each other but the radicals have made women so uninviting and even less appealing to even the best of men.

    Women today, just like always, require a Man to be their equal of better only today...the bar has been raised.

    Wake up guys!
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    • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
      Thanks Carl great points and advice.
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      • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 6 years, 8 months ago
        The real meaning of Being true to yourself. It's Not a "Pants hangin down lookin like a fool" kind of thing...that's Not being the best you can be.

        http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/ar...
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        • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
          The irony is that people are increasingly seeking to find Truth by looking inside themselves at a time when humans are deeply uncertain about who they are.

          The cultural historian Jacques Barzun, in his classic work From Dawn to Decadence (2000), noted that one of the predominant characteristics of modern man is his lack of self-identity. Hence, the recurring theme in art and life of a man setting out on a search to “find himself.”

          “Where in the scheme of things do I belong? Who am I, anyway? Such questions made up the ‘identity crisis’ studied by psychiatrists whose patients had not ‘found themselves,” Barzun noted.

          But Barzun understood something most modernists fail to grasp: Finding oneself is a misnomer; “a self is not found but made.”
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          • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 6 years, 8 months ago
            Identity comes with the "Mind" that knows it's essence; that work or activity that make one happy and prosperous.


            To be self made is different from identifying "Self" by that which one does or has done...that is only an ego and is of no value.
            To know self, one must be aware of self or conscious in the first place.

            How one accomplishes his works defines one's self and his value or not or what we identify as: Content of Character.
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            • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
              Tucker is running this series on Wednesdays .
              I would love to see you as his expert guest.
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              • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 6 years, 8 months ago
                Thanks...I know who to go to for a boost!

                My work is all about advancing the conversation...maybe someday I'll be able to articulate it in a way that brings no nonsensical push backs...it's important to me that everyone gets it and that takes getting it right not being right.

                That's something I could not take credit for other than just asking the question.
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        • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
          This interview concludes Tucker's segment. I ment for this to be included.
          https://youtu.be/68EiD_LzmWY
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          • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 6 years, 8 months ago
            When oh when will people learn that competition is a very good thing. It is the driver to become better that one was before, to adapt and evolve.

            This SHOULD be the proper definition of Competition: Two or more entities, totally dependent upon each other to become the best that one can be.
            One is never at his best until tested and could not attain his best efforts if not for competent competition.
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            • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
              I think of you as Oldwisecarl . Of course competition drives innovation and results in improved products or performance. The snowflakes have grown up with participation medals and a worthless entitlement indoctrination.

              I think about Shawn White and the half-pipe snowboard Gold medal he won in S Korea.
              the first time in his life, White landed back-to-back 1440s — a maneuver that requires four full aerial revolutions — to help secure the win. White had never even practiced this combo. Too dangerous. But Hirano had pulled it off in his second run, impressing the judges. White knew he needed it in order to win.
              https://www.nbcolympics.com/video/sha...
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 6 years, 8 months ago
    Everybody may have their own take on what a strong man is. That's fine. But, I don't think one could argue that without strong men you don't have families. That, I think, is what this is all about. It's an attack on families by removing a prime component.
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    • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
      The leftist's are all about eugenics from the enviromentnazis to the Planned parenthooders to the gender identification gay marriage crowd to big pharma the entertainment industry to name a handful.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 6 years, 8 months ago
    It's all part of the left's ideology that wants to get rid of anything having to do with traditional values, traditional family, traditional roles for men and women, etc. That those values and roles have stabilized every society they have been used in doesn't matter, nor does the fact that the societies where these are destroyed have in turn been destroyed themselves.

    Have you ever noticed how self-destructive the Left is? Every policy they want to support isn't feasible in the long term - most not even in the short term.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 6 years, 8 months ago
    The problem is real, but the article that is linked is bad because it conflates issues that have nothing to do with its thesis. For example, the mention of the shooters being men: men have (in all societies at all known times) been more prone to violent crimes than women - by about a factor of 10.

    Insofar as suicide is concerned, if it were due to cultural emasculation, then suicide would be expected to be highest in the coastal states and lower in more traditional states. The opposite is true: NY, Hawaii, CA are all low on the chart and Alaska, Wyoming, and New Mex are all high.

    I have noticed and discussed the need for masculine liberation with male friends. I try to support them in their reveling in their size and strength and competitiveness. I think that this is a problem that actually transcends gender, however, and that the social attack is on strength and competence and independence per se; since the traditional embodiment of these characteristics is 'men', then they become the target.

    While I enjoy seeing movies (at last) that have strong female heroes, and reading books with active female protagonists, it is obvious to me that one does not have to make others weak in order to be strong.

    Jan
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    • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
      Thanks Jan for your well thought out commentary.
      As with many discussions not all aspects of a discussion are valid. Interesting also is the dramatic drop in testosterone in men over the last few decades. No medical studies on that , but their are studies on grooming of pubic hair.
      You just can't make this stuff up.
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      • Posted by $ jlc 6 years, 8 months ago
        Ha! I believe that. It is just absurd enough to be true. I have actually read articles on drop in sperm counts. The problem with a facile answer explaining that observation is that there are so many things that have changed in the time period stated...and people like simple, one sentence 'answers'.

        For example, as of 1900, the number of people in the US employed in farming dropped below 50%; this has decreased to 2% today. How do we know that this increasingly sedentary lifestyle is not responsible for the drop in sperm counts? In that period of time, life expectancies have approximately doubled. How does that affect us?

        Jan
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 6 years, 8 months ago
    Tucker Carlson is correct. There is one thing that is now missing from our current culture is that there is no more male hero's. But, also fathers who would push their sons to into manly types of ventures. That's what I see.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 6 years, 8 months ago
    I shall never forget my experience with a bus driver at mid-term of my senior year. He decided the younger boys were doing things to amuse me and he had me barred from riding the bus the remainder of the year. I had done nothing.
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  • Posted by exceller 6 years, 8 months ago
    Mr Chad. I congratulate you on your success. It takes an individual with integrity, determination and honesty to make the steps you made. However, if I may point out how else it may have turned out which is more typical in today's upside-down society. There could have been students complaining to their parents who in turn would have run to the school administration complaining that you were "unfair" to the students. in 9 out of 10 cases the decision would have been contrary what you were trying to accomplish. Good to know that there are still cases where it is not true.
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    • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago
      Back in the eighties when our kids were in grade school. We would go to conferences and the teachers would talk about how parents ALWAYS
      defended students bad behavior saying things like
      He or she wouldn't do that or something else must have caused it , when the teachers had to call a students home for discipline reasons.
      Then I experienced the same thing one Sunday afternoon. We have a large open space in our yard. The neighborhood kids would play baseball and football or kickball there. I looked out and two brothers had another boy on the ground and they were hitting and kicking him. I stormed out and interceded. Screaming for them to stop ,they did and I told them to go home. 5 mins later the two boys dad called me. He was yelling at me saying that it was none of my business and the that I was a so and so. I was shocked and taken back , so much so that I hardly could respond before he hung up. I was ready to go over to his house and read him the riot act but was fortunately halted by my wise bride. She said it was not worth it and that nothing good would come of it. She was right of course but it still gets my Irish up to think about it. When I was younger if a neighbor or teacher ever called my parents about me it was a grounding after I was sent to apologize in person.
      I raised my kids the same way.
      To the point, my kids were very rarely a discipline problem. Firm consequences resulted in well behaved children. My kids never had meltdowns or tantrums.
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      • Posted by exceller 6 years, 8 months ago
        Yes. Today's kids are not being raised They grow up like weeds, without guidelines on what is right and what is not. I came from a family where we had strict rules; not that I followed them when I became older, making a conscious decision when I diverted, fully knowing the reason. Today's problems with the younger generation are rooted in their parents. "Raising" kids is a great responsibility and few parents are willing to make the effort to discipline them let alone showing them how to navigate through life.

        I have a similar example to yours when the two young daughters of my friends living nearby started using my driveway as their playground, making a lot of noise. I went out and told them to please, stop it. Their mother came at me with fury, how did I dare to instruct "her kids". It occurred to me at the time that when a case like this took place during my childhood, my Mother would have explained to me why it was improper to make noise at our neighbor's place. She would never have attacked the friend for warning us. Luckily, the husband who was also a friend had more sense and he quieted the woman down. But the kids saw by this time that they can get their mother stand by them regardless of their improper behavior.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 8 months ago
    I like the part toward the beginning where he says a disproportional number of violent crimes and risky acts. This, he says, shows something ominous is happening in American. Everyone who pays attention knows that. [Sarcasm]Because young men committing the bulk of violent crimes and risky acts is not something we see anywhere else in human history.[/Sarcasm]

    I think his claim that the gender wage gap is non-existent is correct. I suspect it can all be accounted for by women choosing to work fewer hours, choosing to take time off, etc.

    I suspect the behavioral problems in boys is caused by not letting kids running around a play. Play gets their sillies out and is where they learn very basic communication and conflict resolution. Our society is trying to take that way. They grow up and require emotional support fluffiness (that's really a thing!) or get antsy and misbehave. The misbehavior takes a more overt form in males.

    So I think he's right about wage-gap and behavioral issues, but I completely reject the claim that it's due to discrimination. He sort of implies a battle of the sexes in a tone aimed at the 7-y/o level as if to get attention from viewers of that mental level.
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