Galt's Gulch

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  • Posted by UncommonSense 12 years ago
    So, I guess this is what our military is fighting to defend: The looter opulent lifestyle off the backs of Real Americans? All the while they spew hate for the military, the values the military hold onto, yet, demand ever-more sacrifice?! I'm absolutely disgusted. I'm so glad I'm retired, I could not stand to think I would be putting my life on the the line for them, doing things they themselves would NEVER do...I don't defend willful laziness.
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  • Posted by khalling 12 years ago
    "They’re on the dole — and watching the pole"
    that was good

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    • Posted by WWJGD 12 years ago
      From what I saw of the New York Post when I lived there, I think that kind of sub-head is pretty standard for that paper.

      It reminds me SO much of... trying to remember his name-- Gail Wynand's rag in The Fountainhead. I hope I got his name right.
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      • Posted by khalling 12 years ago
        "Men differ in their virtues, if any, but they are alike in their vices" Wynand, Fountainhead
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        • Posted by LetsShrug 12 years ago
          I sooooo need to read that.
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          • Posted by WWJGD 12 years ago
            I didn't get much enjoyment out of it. There are some great quotes / ideas in there though.

            Perhaps if I read it again, I'll be able to appreciate it a bit more the 2nd time around.
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            • Posted by LetsShrug 12 years ago
              Some say it's better than Atlas....
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              • Posted by WWJGD 12 years ago
                They're probably the ones who read Atlas for the sex scenes...
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                • Posted by khalling 12 years ago
                  it isn't developed as well as Atlas (from a philosophical point of view) but it is much better at building interesting characters that aren't so archetypal. I find Dominique fascinating, as well as Toohey. In general, I feel both Roark and Galt are somewhat undeveloped, unemotional characters. I think it is intentional. But Dominque and Toohey? there's some great character development right there. Motivations are strongly apparent without the omniscient definitions of who they are. there was still some of that in FH, but less. I often recommend people read the Fountainhead first before tackling AS. My husband reread it recently, and I enjoyed his reading to me outloud certain passages as I was careening down a very unforgiving long highway with no shoulders and plenty of curves and cliffs.
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                • Posted by LetsShrug 12 years ago
                  So...The Fountain Head has more sex scenes in it....and you didn't get much enjoyment out of it... That doesn't jive in Widget World...does it?
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                  • Posted by WWJGD 12 years ago
                    I suppose that someone, somewhere, has counted the sex scenes in both. I wonder which one has more?

                    Both novels were written at a time when authors were just starting to experiment with sex scenes in their work. Nobody knew yet what would actually work. The sex scenes in Atlas seem (to me) to fit into the plot. The sex in Fountainhead seemed, at the time I read it, just plain weird.

                    However, I did not know at that time that Ayn Rand actually had a sexual ethos that she wanted to communicate; I thought it was just more of the same mindless, gratuitous sex that you see in pretty much everywhere except for the works of Robert A. Heinlein (who was clearly communicating a sexual ethos). And that stuff bores me.

                    I'm betting that most of the people (and strangely, most seem to have been girls) who read Atlas in high school did so for the sex scenes and never got the novel's message.

                    Hence my comment about The Fountainhead -- I don't remember the sex therein very well (because, remember, _reading_ that garbage bores me; I'd rather be... uh, never mind), but I have a vague recollection of there being more of it, or it being a lot weirder, or some such thing.

                    I know you weren't expecting such a cerebral response. Sorry about that, sometimes I just can't help it!
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