Despite Parents' wishes (and financial ability), parents not allowed to *try* to save their baby's life because death is "in the child's best interest."
Posted by CarrieAnneJD 7 years, 4 months ago to Politics
Is it just me, or is this situation the perfect contrasted examples of the outcomes of "looting" versus objectivism, i.e., literal "death panels" as a result of the decision that receiving health care is a right (thus having the government make the decision that death is better than expensive treatments), rather than health care being a publicly accessible but ultimately a private decision to pay (or not) for experimental treatment (knowing full well it is unlikely, but possible, to succeed)?
I saw this in Europe but never this bad...it just tears my guts out, so I spent the morning trying to tweet trumpet to convince him to Send the medical care To Baby Gard.
No idea if it'll be read or heeded...I know, it is kinda dumb on my part but just had to try.
It's clear, these parents are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Too bad they couldn't of predicted the outcome and left the country for a better solution before the ruleless delete got wind of their intentions.
You will have it in the US as well (I do not think it can be stopped), but I think it will degrade at a faster rate, because you are starting from a position of much heavier national debt than the other examples.
On the debt side, not really, our national debt is much smaller as a percentage of our GDP than anything in Europe. Ultimately, we can also just start selling land - the US Government owns about 80% of Nevada for example, and probably more than 50% of the 50 states. Or as the de facto world currency, just print the money. Europe has neither option available to it.
Our debt problem has always been 'fixable'.
The UK debt is over 100% of its annual GDP, Canada is nearly 100%, and the US is around 72% (despite our deep recent recession). Pre-recession and pre-bailouts, pre-Obama socialism, we were around 35%. Pre-9/11 and 16 years of war, we were around 20-25% in today's dollars.
Poland, Denmark, Sweden, and Norway would be the only healthy-looking ones in Europe.. around 40%.
Italy - 135%
Japan - 250%
Portugal - 130%
Spain - 99%
Greece - 190%
France - 99%
Germany - 70%
Brazil - 90%
Notable lows -
North Korea - 0.4% (slave labor is cheap and no one will lend them money anyway)
Russia - 13%
China - 20%
However, for measuring debt management a better comparison is revenue (tax) instead of GDP (as analogy, mortgage assessment is based on your salary, not on the pool of money from which your employer pays your salary). The US has much lower tax rates than most euro countries.
To grossly oversimplify... at 72% the US has just as big a problem as a country with double the total tax rate and with debt 144% of GDP.
The other important factor is the higher cost in the US for same medical treatments. As the US slides further down into government healthcare, those costs might rise faster, as the downward pressure of consumer choice will then become non-existent. To cope with rising price of each treatment, the only course left for gov will be to increase rationing (eg. longer wait times).
We're not arguing over ObamaCare in Congress, we are arguing over whether to deeply cut it, or eliminate it.
Our history is very different from that of Canada or Europe, I don't see it ever divulging to that.
As for tax rates... we pay a heck of a lot, you need to count all the layers...
The mass of a thing bears its own weight.
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"Experts" lay statistical smoke screens with ratios and percentages while media water-bearers assure us all is well, "It's not so bad, just look over there...."
People will say anything when there is something they must have. In this case, never-ending, ever-expanding, government largess.
But the mass of a thing bears its own weight.
And 20,000,000,000,000 Dollars is a mountainous mass.
For many years now our budget deficit has been greater than the interest on the National Debt.
Already we cannot service the amount we owe.
To forstall inevitable collapse we hold interest rates to historic, and unsustainable, lows.
Rates so low they have transmogrified the banking industry from a system of investment to a ponzi scheme of constant borrowing.
Rates so low it is now impossible to hold cash in our personal finances. CD's, Money Markets, Savings Accounts - the safest of all personal investments - are gone forever.
We are already "borrowing" from our great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandchildren. Do the math.(https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...)
But there is nothing to see here. It's really OK. Nothing to worry about.
In fact the runaway National Debt is the only - truly existential - threat to America.
And only a Balanced Budget Amendment can save us.
Who is gong to loan us the money that has propped up those lesser economies?
What politician will sell the National Parks?
What politician will replace him?
The house will collapse in our lifetimes.
Do you doubt it?
"What politician will sell the vast tracts of virgin land to miners, foresters and developers?
And what politician will replace him?"
I wish I shared your optimism.
I fear nothing else really and in the big picture I don't even fear this.
But I love this country and it breaks my heart to live in the last years of the American Experiment.
But WE exist and lessons learned will not be forgotten.
We've been to the mountaintop and seen the Promised Land.
And I suppose with all the perks of living in America it's just plain ungrateful to wish for more.
"Patients neither know nor care what things cost. We have virtually eliminated the power of consumer-driven, free-market discipline from one-sixth of our economy."
https://nyti.ms/2u6hIpb
It seems that on the surface, but I actually think it's to everyone's benefit to pursue a free-market approach.
You're only seeing the very tip of the iceberg...
On the other hand, using volunteer money, which I largely include the corrupt Vatican money in, or bringing the child home should never be obstructed.
There is wrong behavior here. I suspect the hospital is motivated by ego. Not sure what motivates the British Government.
Time for full repeal of ocare and move to the free market for healthcare options. With the government stepping out of the picture.
about it on the radio. I sent an e-mail to the President, hoping that maybe he would try to raise a stink about it, and have some influence.
I also looked up the British Prime Minister's e-mail address, and sent her an e-mail, trying to get her to see that it is a long-standing principle of our two countries' civilization that a man has the right to live. I tried to find the Queen's e-mail
address, but apparently she doesn't have one, but the machine gave a regular mail address, so
I sent Her gracious Majesty a handwritten letter,
trying to persuade her to use her influence (if any; she being a constitutional monarch.) There is also a website, "charlie'http://sfight.org", but I haven't sent any messages over it yet, since there is, as with many websites, a long Terms of
Service agreement, and I don't know if I can agree to all of that; it is a thing with me, that I don't agree to something without knowing what it is, which is like an illiterate putting an X on a contract he cannot read, without even getting anyone to read it to him. (
This sometimes interferes with my applying for jobs.) (But maybe I can get it
printed, and read it over between now and the next time I can go to the library). But I read today that there has been a reprieve.
How cruel laissez-faire advocates are; and
how compassionate the proponents of socialized
medicine! (HA!!!)
Certainly if he dies, that judge needs to go on trial for murder.
Under the Democrat desired crap sandwich known as "Single Payer", you will not have that option to try to save your child! It is what it is and this is what the ignorant have voted for.
The only thing to save us from that fate is for the Republicans (establishment) to stand up and do what they were elected to do! Dismantle this mess (Obama-Care) and replace it with a well thought out private sector solution, one with choices and responsibilities! For what its worth!
No, they wouldn't, they'd just quietly come to the U.S. and get the needed treatment and the health system be damned.
Only the elites and their families have valuable lives in such a society.