I read somewhere two or three weeks ago that Colin said he won't kneel any more if someone would please hire him. The word "hypocrite" came to mind. Popping into my old dino head right now is the former Traitor-In Chief saying "If I had a son, he would look like me before I decided it would be more politically prudent to put a hand over my heart during the National Anthem." Naw, Obummer didn't really say that. He did this, though~ http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/...
Colin is lucky he wasn't made an example via prosecution under 18 U.S. Code § 700 - Desecration of the flag of the United States; penalties
Whoever knowingly mutilates, defaces, physically defiles, burns, maintains on the floor or ground, or tramples upon any flag of the United States shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.
Colin's act could be described as defiling the flag under the law. (not that I agree with the law or the penalty;^)
Having read what you wrote, that strikes me as a bit of a stretch. The word "disrespect" or some synonym thereof is not included. Also, I some time ago recall some judge ruling that burning the flag was freedom of speech, Lib judges these days view the Constitution and laws that descend down from it as suggestions or as so much rattle clap.
I just read the law and it is vague enough to allow such a politically biased prosecution. These days it could be politically misapplied far too easily. Once upon a time that sort of garbage was used only on blacks (e.g., Jim Crow laws preventing blacks from having guns for personal defense) or chinese (during the 19th century) or Japanese (WW2) but today anyone is fair game for the unethical, politically biased application of vague legislation.
All the camel wants is to get his nose under the tent, usually by making it seem attractive to unaffected onlookers (non-blacks, non-Chinese, non-Japanese - always minorities). The next thing you know, there's camel poop all over the place INSIDE the tent, and it's too late to complain about the camel trying to get in.
Okay, I see what you're getting at. I recall supervisors in the Alabama DOC writing up correction officers for "being inattentive" instead of "being asleep" while on duty. Our union representative repeatedly argued that the wording "being inattentive" was no where to be found in our SOP rules and regulations.
I won't. personal responsibility, you don't like it, feel free to move....I am not a fan of sports and their milking of they system, especially the billions they have blackmailed out of cities and counties, so let the NFL pay for it.
With any luck, some of our leftist movie and TV stars will also lose their popularity and financial clout as they continue to alienate their audiences.
We can only hope. I don't think that Hollywood knows it yet, but it's dying. You can't call half of your audience right wing idiots and expect that they will continue to support you. I haven't been inside a movie theater for months, and I don't intend to anytime soon. Well, maybe, if an Ayn Rand movie would come out.
I have direcTV and when a movie comes up that stars a big time hollywood supporter of Hillary, I just pass it by. Some of my favorite actors/actresses are on my "do not watch" list now
The only 2 I can think of that I could support is Tim Allen and Charleton Heston....I am sure there are more, but as Tim Allen said yesterday, you do not express conservative views in Hollywood or you get ganged up on and do not work.
I would go with Eddie Willers or Ragnar. I do not recall Ragnar needing to be of a specific background. I don't see Tim Allen pulling of a foriegn accent and character well...but you never know, he is great at comedy, but I also think he has a serious streak in him.
Exactly. I do not watch any mainstream media anymore, even Fox has lost their appeal as they ignore some of the less honest things their Republicrats are doing, as long as it is THEIR Republicrats.
Born to a destitute white woman and a black father who deserted his wife and child. Adopted by a white couple who raised him as their own. (per wikipedia) Oh yes, I can see why he hates white people. (sarcasm) He's definitely a hero for all races to admire. (sarcasm) Just rewards.
"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick said, via NFL.com. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."
If he feels this way, there aren't many places on this planet that he will stand up and show pride in. He can begin with Africa and the Middle East, where all this mistreatment started, and is STILL going on. Why do I hear crickets when I say that?!?
Any mistreatment of anyone due to their skin color or genealogy is abhorrent , as you mention certain places are very deadly. Evil behavior sadly has no borders ,despicable behavior is as despicable in Cairo , Illinois as it is in Cairo ,Egypt.
Sounds like he is remembering Waco, and those dead people at the hands of the FBI 20+ years ago (35 white, 27 black, 6 asian, 6 latin.) The feds are just as likely to oppress whites today as blacks, perhaps more so, with President Oracist as an example. Federal oppression is unacceptable regardless of the demographic of those being oppressed and looted.
And Ias Isaw on a show dealing with terrorism in the US, the Waco thing came out of a conflict between people who felt the government were going to come and get them, and a government that did go out to get them, neither party had a clue as to why they were doing it, it was spun out of control way before it started.
The BATF knew exactly why they attacked the people in Waco, to get positive publicity and get their budget increased. They earned the nickname "F Troop". But burning people alive is the FBI's area of expertise, and they knew exactly what they were doing (and what the outcome would be) with the CS gas and tanks in a wooden structure where the electricity had been turned off and there were candles and lanterns for lighting. It was not mere incompetence. Both agencies should have been disbanded in 1994 and the people in charge of the initial BATF raid, and those who ran the FBI inferno operation should have had adjoining cells for life in highest security federal prison. Disgraceful.
No argument, but they were committed to the act way before they started, and the Wacoites were also committed to it, in that they believed that the world was ending and the government would come get them with weapons. So, that was what I meant by the stage was set, there was no way out when you have 2 groups of people diametrically opposed, and both stupid in their own way. Although the Feds seem incredibly well suited at hiring the least intelligent they can find, and then giving them guns (and I do not mean the military). Disgraceful is a very soft way to describe the debacle...
People who make a valid observation about out of control government and then try to get out of the way of it while obeying the law were not "committed to the act" of being attacked by that government. If that is true, then anyone who is different from the norm is fair game for attack. The people running BATF were wholly at fault for the initial attack and the people running the FBI intentionally burned to death innocent people who had done nothing wrong and harmed no one. The BATF ignored the reports of the local sheriff who had already visited the scene and found no probable cause for a warrant. I do agree that a part of the stage was set. The government had been moving toward this kind of illegal action for many years, including the National Firearms Act of 1934 and the Gun Control Act of 1968, both unconstitutional without doubt. The government has continued to act in the same way since, using civil forfeiture to steal property of people that government allegedly suspects of a crime, but has not found evidence to prove wrongdoing, placing the burden of proof on the supposedly innocent, effectively rendering them guilty until proven innocent. Such government is deserving of revolution and execution for treason against the sovereign people.
Again, I am not arguing the points as they are all valid components of the situation. I do believe that one of their key beliefs was in an "end of the world cneario with a goverment takeover and imprisonment" of all people, and a removal of all guns from their hands. In that scenario, the situation was doomed before it started, as the BATF was committed by it loony leadership to make an example of them, and incompetently thought they could overwhelm them with their poorly executed use of force. On the other hand, the Wacoites all believed this was a fulfillment of prophecy and died before being taken by the evil government. There was no possibility of a peaceful outcome, once the wheels started to move.
I agree that once the BATF had attacked and their crimes (e.g., using military aircraft to attack under false pretenses) were known to the people inside the compound and the illegality of said attack was evident in the bullet holes of the structure, the BATF could not allow a mass of people to testify to the crimes of the BATF and the evidence had to be destroyed. The system designed by government for the benefit of government was rigged against the Branch Davidians and they had to die so the truth would not be so obvious that the BATF might suffer the death it truly deserves.
BTW, not that that doesn't happen, it is just the selectivity of their causes that makes me sick. These loons will make a protest over one specific thing and ignore 90 others that are just as bad. That is what both political parties count on.
Exactly right their is no consistency to their value system. Support Muslim immigrants ---a religion that oppresses women making them wear burka's and conform to Sharia Law and live under strict control of the males. The BLM crowd ignores the black lives lost daily amongst the gang bangers and the recruitment of youth into said gangs, and focus on the police responses that in many cases is justified, again no consistency.
He would just be a pain in the ass to work with. I didnt have anything to do with his upbringing or whoever brought his ancestors over by "tight pack", so theres nothing I can do about those things. He should think about his life NOW rather than try to make people today feel guilty over what happened years ago
Exactly, it is the use of any excuse to claim special privilege that is really the sick part of all these situations. No one is special, in that we are all special, making it a neutral claim.
What Kaepernick never understood was that when you work in entertainment (which is what professional sports are, BTW), you only kill your own job when you get involved in politics. He should have learned from the Dixey Chicks.
Of course the other part of that was that he was too busy kneeling for the anthem to actually play football. He had a terrible season...
Anyone who does not believe in prayers need only look at the dreadful season the 49ers had after dick head made his stand and took a knee. We cancelled the NFL Sunday ticket because the NFL allowed this jerk to infect America's game.
One issue at hand is that Americans are too quick to look to professional athletes as some sort of example of how to live. These people are a combination of talented, hard-working, and spoiled. You can tell the exact mix by their behavior. I couldn't care less anymore...
It's Interesting how these things eventually all come together. The Kaepernick story, although an opposite kind of story, reminded me of my experience coming back from Vietnam. My old job was gone (rocket & space industry), we had already gone to the moon while I was over there. When I went looking for a job it actually took me a couple of months to realize that there were a lot of huge major companies that would not hire me as soon as they found out I had served in Vietnam. Maybe they thought I might kill their women and children. I was considering taking Vietnam off my resume. I was totally dumbfounded, but soon became very pleased that one of them, 3M Company, actually gave me a job which I believe might have been because I had served in Vietnam. When I was interviewed (after passing the testing) my interviewer actually asked me a more questions about my experiences over there than about my electronic and mechanical abilities. It was the only company that even mentioned Vietnam. No one else ever asked anything about it. Thirty two years later I retired from 3M. I feel I got exactly what I deserved, a fine career, with a fine company.
I just hope Kaepernick gets exactly what he deserves too. If as a coach I was forced to have him on my team, I'd rather play with 10 men on the field and let him keep the bench warm. Same sentiment goes for John Kerry and his friend Jane Fonda. These people are purely, and totally, ignorant of what they are protesting. Should that be a legitimate excuse? What's worse however are the people that support them anyway. Football is all about money, but on occasion some fans and owners actually see the light, the real things that matter.
Your story is very true and the root cause was indeed the whole guilt thing, a lot of pressure from employees not to hire "baby killers" and a total lack of knowledge of just went on, a lot of it caused by the government trying to cover it and forget. Thanks for your service in a really crappy situation. Intel hired me after 20 years as a Submarine Sonar man and gave me credit for a bachelors degree, so it change d over time and they actively recruited military.
Add him to the many protesters that refuse to take a history course and learn what America is all about. Yes free speech is allowed but stupid speech is shunned for what it is.
Works for me. I am completely sick of discussion of racial prejudice. The faster people stop blaming others for their lot in life, the faster the whole situation will be irrelevant. The guy with a ridiculous formulated vocabulary, 17 tattoos, nine piercings, his pants around his thighs, iPhone 6s+ and complete disdain for work does not get to tell the Asian college kid dressed mainstream, speaking flawless English that he has a shot, just because he isn't black.
Personal responsibility? Nope, that requires a form of self honesty to recognize the world the way it really is. That line of thought is neither encouraged or presented by the education establishment, and I have a sneaking suspicion he was one of those odd people who went to college and never had a class...
He can't get a job because he was insubordinate. No team owner wants an insubordinate player. Besides, he's off his game. The combination is a deal-killer.
The Vikings would take him , they will play any kind of criminal they can get their hands on. Kaepernick just needs to get arrested a couple of times. Most arrested NFL team last 5 and 10 years = Vikings .I bet for the last quarter century. But I can't find those stats. Years ago Randy Moss purposely hit a traffic cop exiting a parking ramp. I joked at the time that it was the best hit by a Viking all year.Minnesota Vikings receiver Randy Moss was arrested Sept. 24, 2002 after being accused of bumping a police traffic officer with his car. The officer tried to stop Moss from making an illegal turn, and...
It's a complicated issue for me. First, I've been a 49ers fan since 1953, and Kaepermick has provided the only interesting QB play for the 49ers in the last 15 years. I love his play and wish Lynch would sign him again. Second, I think Colin is wrong in his assertion that blacks are being shot by police at an elevated rate. Blacks commit about ⅔ of felonies, but constitute only 40% of people shot and killed by police. If anything, blacks are being treated with kid gloves. Third, the NFL is a private organization and if they don't want to deal with anyone for any reason they should be free to "blackball" him. He has other options---arena football, CFL, and whatever he was planning to do after his athletic career was over. Finally, I dislike symbols. You only have to live in a foreign country for a while to realize how artificial they all are. Flags, national anthems, various colors associated with days of the week--it's all nonsense. The national anthem being played before a sporting event only started during WWII. Before that baseball umpires started a game by yelling "play ball". I'd prefer the NFL would just dump the play of the national anthem before games. Problem solved.
May be the anthem is a holdover from a bygone time, but it is entirely symbolic and the political system has made a cottage industry out of programming symbols into the american psych and culture, so killing it off will probably not happen. With the use of hot button accusations, "You are UNAmerican" would ring out in 30 seconds after the announcement, and controversy is always bad for business, hence, is Colin. He should go with the flow, as it is a job expectation, one he decided to forgo.
Football is an entertainment venue - a business. When people quit watching because something disturbs them, the owners loose money. They can pretend to be "politically correct" as long as it doesn't hurt them in the pocket. This my friends is an example of how we as thinking people should be responding to the endless left wing garbage hurled up at us every day. Just quit doing business with the sponsors of this garbage!
I find this ironic because he can't get a job because he didn't respect our flag. I couldn't get a job because I did respect our flag. His incident was in 2016, mine took place in 1969. Maybe we have moved in the right direction in some aspects.
Because you are being anti fart and anti freedom, and anti everything if you don't. Just say " WTF was that?" and see the response. Suffer in silence and know all the other liberal snowflakes are crying with you, or open up and celebrate freedom....
Really the only problem is that the ingrate has probably banked $15-20 million in his first handful of years in the NFL. Yeah, he's on hard times now, but if he had any sort of financial management, he shouldn't have to worry about working at the local Wal-Mart to cover 3 squares a day like many of the rest of us. PS: Don't forget: The kid is only 29 years old! If he's smart (???) he'd "fall on the sword", admit he was under duress and mistaken in his actions. In the great old US of A, he'd be welcomed to work towards further success...2nd chance, 3rd chance....just don't screw it up again kid!!
I boycotted NFL all season. I didn't watch a single game, including Super Bowl. Godell was booed mercilessly at Super Bowl trophy presentation and at NFL Draft. NFL needs to get some balls and come down on morons like Kapernick. Show respect for our country!!
I am with you. Watching football on Sunday's is what I used to do I gave it up twenty five years ago. Love having the 3-4 hours of my own time being productive.
I haven't followed it, but I admire people who stand up for unpopular ideas. The article says he's learning the hard way that many people hate him, but maybe he was never seeking their love, money, respect, approval, or whatever. If he wanted to say what's popular with the establishment in his industry, he probably would have gone along with whatever people around him said/did.
CG, I don't follow or watch sports, but this one was quite an item a few months ago. I do not see it as standing up for your cause, if you believe in something along his supposed lines, you do more than just show them how big and bad you are by doing something you know will piss off a whole bunch of the people who pay your ticket. I have not seen him out in public stating his reasons and selling his ability to do something better. I am presenting this for discussion more because he is "shocked" that no one wants to employ him, after he proved he could piss off a large group of the people your employer needs. Imagine being a car salesman with a Trumps Sucks Tshirt, and they fire you for alienating your customers, there is nothing wrong with that, and you deserve no sympathy.
If it were an Ayn Rand story, he'd alienate so many people by speaking his mind that he'd have to work the most menial jobs to make ends meet, while more practical people wondered how long it would it take for him to learn to keep his mouth shut, to be mindful of his image in the public eye, to avoid alienating customers, and so on.
I can not forgive people for expressing such disdain for our flag on a false premise. Ignorance is no excuse for stupidity no matter what side you're on. If it can't come across positive it's probably a better decision just to keep your mouth shut especially when you're in the public eye. Kaepernick will probably learn this about the time he becomes too old to play.
Of course I'm prejudiced in my opinions too, I was in the service and understand what the flag represents..
The word "hypocrite" came to mind.
Popping into my old dino head right now is the former Traitor-In Chief saying "If I had a son, he would look like me before I decided it would be more politically prudent to put a hand over my heart during the National Anthem." Naw, Obummer didn't really say that. He did this, though~
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/...
Whoever knowingly mutilates, defaces, physically defiles, burns, maintains on the floor or ground, or tramples upon any flag of the United States shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.
Colin's act could be described as defiling the flag under the law.
(not that I agree with the law or the penalty;^)
Also, I some time ago recall some judge ruling that burning the flag was freedom of speech,
Lib judges these days view the Constitution and laws that descend down from it as suggestions or as so much rattle clap.
I recall supervisors in the Alabama DOC writing up correction officers for "being inattentive" instead of "being asleep" while on duty.
Our union representative repeatedly argued that the wording "being inattentive" was no where to be found in our SOP rules and regulations.
Oh yes, I can see why he hates white people. (sarcasm)
He's definitely a hero for all races to admire. (sarcasm)
Just rewards.
Both agencies should have been disbanded in 1994 and the people in charge of the initial BATF raid, and those who ran the FBI inferno operation should have had adjoining cells for life in highest security federal prison. Disgraceful.
I do agree that a part of the stage was set. The government had been moving toward this kind of illegal action for many years, including the National Firearms Act of 1934 and the Gun Control Act of 1968, both unconstitutional without doubt. The government has continued to act in the same way since, using civil forfeiture to steal property of people that government allegedly suspects of a crime, but has not found evidence to prove wrongdoing, placing the burden of proof on the supposedly innocent, effectively rendering them guilty until proven innocent. Such government is deserving of revolution and execution for treason against the sovereign people.
and conform to Sharia Law and live under strict control of the males.
The BLM crowd ignores the black lives lost daily
amongst the gang bangers and the recruitment of youth into said gangs, and focus on the police
responses that in many cases is justified, again no consistency.
Of course the other part of that was that he was too busy kneeling for the anthem to actually play football. He had a terrible season...
Idiot.
I just hope Kaepernick gets exactly what he deserves too. If as a coach I was forced to have him on my team, I'd rather play with 10 men on the field and let him keep the bench warm. Same sentiment goes for John Kerry and his friend Jane Fonda. These people are purely, and totally, ignorant of what they are protesting. Should that be a legitimate excuse? What's worse however are the people that support them anyway. Football is all about money, but on occasion some fans and owners actually see the light, the real things that matter.
Maybe he can play in a Canadian League. No need for the US anthem there!
The guy with a ridiculous formulated vocabulary, 17 tattoos, nine piercings, his pants around his thighs, iPhone 6s+ and complete disdain for work does not get to tell the Asian college kid dressed mainstream, speaking flawless English that he has a shot, just because he isn't black.
Years ago Randy Moss purposely hit a traffic cop exiting a parking ramp. I joked at the time that it was the best hit by a Viking all year.Minnesota Vikings receiver Randy Moss was arrested Sept. 24, 2002 after being accused of bumping a police traffic officer with his car. The officer tried to stop Moss from making an illegal turn, and...
Second, I think Colin is wrong in his assertion that blacks are being shot by police at an elevated rate. Blacks commit about ⅔ of felonies, but constitute only 40% of people shot and killed by police. If anything, blacks are being treated with kid gloves.
Third, the NFL is a private organization and if they don't want to deal with anyone for any reason they should be free to "blackball" him. He has other options---arena football, CFL, and whatever he was planning to do after his athletic career was over.
Finally, I dislike symbols. You only have to live in a foreign country for a while to realize how artificial they all are. Flags, national anthems, various colors associated with days of the week--it's all nonsense. The national anthem being played before a sporting event only started during WWII. Before that baseball umpires started a game by yelling "play ball". I'd prefer the NFL would just dump the play of the national anthem before games. Problem solved.
Love having the 3-4 hours of my own time being productive.
Of course I'm prejudiced in my opinions too, I was in the service and understand what the flag represents..