Class Action Lawsuit against Colleges and Universities
Perhaps it's time for a Class Action Lawsuit against every College and University that took Student Loan money from our children.
These bastions of higher education willingly and consciously sold useless courses towards useless degrees that had little chance of ever being used to pay off those loans.
These bastions of higher education willingly and consciously sold useless courses towards useless degrees that had little chance of ever being used to pay off those loans.
I have never missed a student loan payment. I have never blamed the government or bank for making it possible for me to go to school. Sure, it ended up being a lousy investment but that's not their fault.
For a time, I did blame the college for selling me a bad "product". I clearly remember my college advisor telling me when I graduated I would make easily $45,000 a year at my first job. That did not happen.
Today, I do not blame the school. I should have done more research into the school, the degree I was getting, and career options after graduation. I know a lot of people that feel differently, but think of it this way....
If you met a man selling magic beans, beans that would change your life (make you rich, smart, etc.), and you paid him $100,000 for those beans only to find out they were useless, who would you blame? Immediately, you might be upset at the man. Why is he defrauding people? But honestly, isn't the fault really with you? Why did you think there was a magic pill (bean) that would change your life so drastically? Did you do any research? Read any magic bean reviews?
I do believe that colleges mislead students, a lot of their advisors are as bad as used car salesmen, but at the end of the day you're responsible for your life the decisions you make. A college doesn't come up and hold you at gunpoint to force you to sign a student loan agreement.
However, saying that trusting the institution's judgment and advise is like buying magic beans is a bit extreme. You're generally raised to trust and respect the opinions of those who's advice you are paying for and who are far more experienced than yourself. So when a well paid, professional "expert" from an accredited school recommends you buy a course of study, you're likely to agree with them and buy their product.
Like it or not,18 - 20 year olds are still young and generally gullible. They do not have the life experience, in most cases, to be jaded enough to distrust someone who should be acting in their best interest. While this isn't quite like betraying a public trust, I think it's pretty darn close.
In my opinion this is called a con and should be treated like any other con job or fraud case. Do we blame the little old lady who is tricked into loosing her life savings because she thought she was paying her electric bill over the phone? I don't think so, but even if we do, do we pat the con artist on the back and tell him "keep up the good work"? No, if we catch him, we prosecute him and attempt to make him pay back any ill-gotten gains.
Colleges keep "selling" their wares to new and unsuspecting young adults every year and I think it's about time they're made to face the realities we'd all face if we engaged in an organized scheme that cheated unsuspecting people for years on end.
My degree (which is in business) is useless in that I couldn't tell you one thing I learned in college that I couldn't have learned on my own on the job. In fact, most of the skills I use today (HTML, AdWords, Analytics, etc. etc.) I taught myself after graduating.
However, without a degree I couldn't have gotten any of the jobs I've held since college (except working for Atlas). They all required you to have a bachelors degree. Yep, even handling complaints at a call center. Why? Who knows. I certainly haven't needed my degree to do those jobs... yet if a degree hadn't been on my resume the HR person would have tossed my application right in the wastebasket.
A bachelors degree has become the new high school diploma.
The point I'm trying to make is that businesses that require you to have a degree to do an entry level job make colleges necessary.
Even if you find fault with the little old lady, the activity is still wrong and the perpetrator should pay.
And , as you suggested, if you blame the parents for raising gullible kids, that doesn't exonerate the person or organization that commits a tort or crime against the kids.
I guess my point is that I feel the schools consciously know what they are doing and should be held accountable by the people it was done to.
And no, I'm not saying the advisor is the sole responsible party either. I'm saying the schools are consciously choosing to push these "useless" degrees to fill their colleges. But since you brought it up, the advisor does get paid, however indirectly, from all the students he pushes into the student loan program. He'd be unlikely to keep his job if he didn't get enough students to pay the exorbitant costs of tuition.
I'm not defending the student loan program - It shouldn't exist
I'm not defending the students who borrowed the money ...
I'm not saying what can be done to save the student loan program.
Just because someone is suckered into a Ponzi scheme doesn't mean that the Ponzi scheme operator shouldn't be held accountable.
Just because someone inadvisably rides their bike onto a heavily trafficked road doesn't mean the driver of a car who hits that bike shouldn't be held accountable.
Just because someone buys a house with a flawed foundation that the previous owner knew about and didn't disclose doesn't mean the previous owner shouldn't be held accountable.
Just because someone buys the Brooklyn Bridge doesn't mean the "seller" shouldn't be held accountable.
In other words, just because someone is gullible doesn't mean those who take advantage of them shouldn't be held accountable.
I'm giving examples of holding people / organizations accountable even if the person harmed wasn't doing the smartest thing to begin with.
Did I say the biker was breaking the law? No...
Did I say the road was marked for cars only? No ...
All I said was if a road is very busy (heavily trafficked) a biker might be advised not to ride on it because of the increased danger .... That being said, even if he does ride on that road, anyone who hits him should be held accountable.
Again, all I'm saying is that anyone harming / taking advantage of another person (Even if that other person might be better advised) should be held accountable.
Reminds me of a saying that goes something like, when you're pointing the finger at someone else, there are 3 others pointing back at you.
My undergrad education would have been more valuable if I had worked as a tech for a year or two first. That's the main reason I felt like I got more out of my masters: I had actually done some of this stuff and could evaluate how it fit into the real world. Also I was paying for it myself by working. My parents paid for undergrad.
To me that's fraud and they should be held accountable as any other organization doing the same thing. Don't we go after welfare fraud? How about financial fraud against seniors? Or fraud of any type?
Besides, it'd be a great way to force this liberal world of academia to accept the hard realities of the responsibilities faced by the rest of us living in the real world.
If someone sells you a lemon car and you take a loan out on it, the dealership still has the money even if you declare bankruptcy against the lending institution.
On the other hand (Geezz! I am sounding like an economist!), would not successful class actions perhaps be "sobering" and instructive to those alums who provide the endowments, through which nonsense, masquerading as insight and wisdom, seemingly sustain their perceived credulity???!!!
I think their practices need to be made very clear to the general public at large
Then you have a second prong and that is the government subsidization of education via grants (Pell) and student aid, which - contrary to what people actually believe - actually make higher education more expensive as has been shown in many scholarly articles.
The last piece is that businesses have bought into the notion that somehow having a bachelor's degree is now the minimum bar of entrance into the workforce - even for jobs that don't really benefit from much of the "core" mandated by University accreditation boards. I get how a degree in Accounting is beneficial for the accountants, business management for managers, and specific training for doctors and lawyers, but there are many other programs which are pretty useless. Graphic designers would be far better suited to learn by internship/apprenticeship than learning from outdated tools and old design style. All of the computer professions are a complete joke being taught at the university. (I knew more than most of my professors in my classes, but I needed that piece of paper!) I think that as an education model, we'd do well to encourage more trade schools and apprenticeship programs than to continually churn out pieces of paper. But those pieces of paper are big money to the colleges, electoral leverage for politicians, income for the banks (student loans are immune from bankruptcy proceedings), and a perceived necessity for businesses. It's a big rat race where the real cheese is kept in a room high above the fray, with only its aroma to keep us turning that little wheel.