Guns in A.S. and in the world coming.
Posted by stargeezer 11 years, 3 months ago to Politics
I'm a gun guy. I'm retired military and loved serving my country. I carried a pistol and/or a rifle for most of my service and yes, I did use them. In reading and listening to AS (audiobook), I found the use and possession of firearms to be very consistent with the 2nd amendment and my "world view" on firearms.
Rearden was not troubled by carrying a concealed handgun as he walked from the mill to his home as described in his encounter with Ragnar - even as the police patrol questioned them. Francisco, Ragnar, Dagny and Rearden seemed very cool under pressure as they rescued Galt from captivity and torture.
In almost every mention of guns by citizens in the book, they are portrayed in a positive light. IMO As a counter point, guns used by governmental agents are seen as oppressive tools used to force citizens to remain passive as they are looted. We also see the military being degraded to the level of professional expertise best described as "the thug with a gun". Far from where our fine troops are today BTW.
So I ask you the reader, "What do you think"? Will guns play a part in "the world to come" or are we going to see the attempt removal of guns from legal, private ownership in this country?
I feel that if "they" continue to attempt to violate the 2nd amendment by misreading it's simple and clear language, more and more people will shrug.
Amendment II-
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
It does NOT say that a militia can have guns, it plainly says that in order to have a well trained militia, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. We have a right to keep and bear arms in order to be a trained force - every one of us.
Not for hunting, not for target shooting, not for the Olympics - we have this right to insure that we can keep our government from becoming oppressive and nation safe.
IMO, IF you are member of a site like this, you need to be trained and proficient with the use of firearms. You know whats comeing, be ready.
Rearden was not troubled by carrying a concealed handgun as he walked from the mill to his home as described in his encounter with Ragnar - even as the police patrol questioned them. Francisco, Ragnar, Dagny and Rearden seemed very cool under pressure as they rescued Galt from captivity and torture.
In almost every mention of guns by citizens in the book, they are portrayed in a positive light. IMO As a counter point, guns used by governmental agents are seen as oppressive tools used to force citizens to remain passive as they are looted. We also see the military being degraded to the level of professional expertise best described as "the thug with a gun". Far from where our fine troops are today BTW.
So I ask you the reader, "What do you think"? Will guns play a part in "the world to come" or are we going to see the attempt removal of guns from legal, private ownership in this country?
I feel that if "they" continue to attempt to violate the 2nd amendment by misreading it's simple and clear language, more and more people will shrug.
Amendment II-
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
It does NOT say that a militia can have guns, it plainly says that in order to have a well trained militia, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. We have a right to keep and bear arms in order to be a trained force - every one of us.
Not for hunting, not for target shooting, not for the Olympics - we have this right to insure that we can keep our government from becoming oppressive and nation safe.
IMO, IF you are member of a site like this, you need to be trained and proficient with the use of firearms. You know whats comeing, be ready.
I also concur on the advisability of constant serious drill to keep your skills sharp. As my wife and I travel (we are snowbirds and RV 8 months a year) I map our route to take advantage of as many military bases (that have ranges open to retirees) and public ranges as I can, all in a effort to keep razor sharp.
All good points weewilly, thanks!
Yes I do think 'they' are trying to take our guns. I think it will get more serious and have a new twist after the recall in Colorado.
I too am very proficient with hand guns and shoulder weapons. Your assessment of the intent of the 2nd Amendment is correct, to keep our government from becoming oppressive and the nation safe. The Citizen Soldier.
Thank you for your service too, Sister.
Lets see if I can get this right - From your Brother in Arms. :D
Yes, I'll say it, I busted my butt (that being where I landed) in the Army. :D :D I loved every minute of it and hated to leave. I did get my Oak Leafs, but they were a going away present. I spent my time with the troops.
What was yours, RMP?
I would say yes to both. As a gun lover myself, I have several, ones a SKS with a bull-pup conversion. Gun's in the hands of the individual is good, we have to be able to take care of ourselves and protect our freedoms. Gun carrying individuals are the only sure fire way that oppression from Government cannot occur.
I reload all my ammo in order to gain the upmost accuracy.
Now, this is off topic and as much as I enjoy talking "guns", it's not why I started this thread. So lets "try" to keep it in the vein of politics as much as possible. I'm talking to myself here as much as anyone. :D
I did not serve though I come from a military family. Thank you for your service. Like terrycan, I have manufactured many armaments over my lifetime. They can't take away the knowledge or the technology to manufacture firearms any more than they can un-invent the atom bomb. People would make them in their basements... Would the government prefer to see IEDs? Bombs are more destructive, easier to make and create more terror. Our government has only the power to clean up after the fact. I think it an impossible task to round up enough of the ocean of weapons fast enough to avoid a massive civil war in the attempt. Although so many of our citizens need deprogramming nowadays it is frightening to consider the possibility that the authorities knowing this might consider it.
Carpe diem,
O.A.
I like to shoot targets at 100yds with my pistol, and my wife out-shoots me regularly. When people ask me why I shoot a pistol at those distances, I tell them it's because I don't want a bad guy to get close enough that he can shoot ME.
What I like the best abut teaching people to shoot - especially women - is to see a little bitty woman shoot .45. There's not a thrill like that anywhere else.
Thanks for the thread, I'll visit back.