Skewed Various Responses; Still no such thing as a Hate Crime

Posted by $ Thoritsu 8 years ago to Culture
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Interesting how quickly Fox gets tot he point, but CNN takes paragraphs. Also note CNN asserts the RightThink moniker, Hate Crime, is about the victims mental capacity. Quite clearly mental capacity is not their motivation.

This entire racial issue needs to be quelled, not incited by media. It is not prevalent. It is not on the rise.
SOURCE URL: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/01/05/chicago-torture-video-highlights-media-double-standard-on-hate.html


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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years ago
    Me dino can well imagine the liberal screaming, shrieking, howling almighty Hate Crime outcry should a special needs black person be tortured by a four white Trump supporters for an entire day.
    But you see, a special needs white guy being tortured by disadvantaged blacks ain't cool with the lib PC BLM narrative for being an inconvenient distraction, y'all.
    Y'know, like all those horrendous black on black Chicago rapes and murders.
    Nothing to see here. Move along..
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    • Posted by $ 8 years ago
      Ahh, but what about a black guy getting assaulted by four special needs white people? Wouldn't that be complicated?
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      • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years ago
        My dangerous dino imagination is taking that a step further.
        A gangsta from the hood decides to beat up four perceived easy targets for special needs white people who beat him to death with their canes, crutches, artificial limbs, whatever. Maybe one is a concealed carry and shoots the poor unarmed thug.
        A witness lies that the special needs white people attacked the gangsta.
        Police investigate. Meanwhile, here comes BLM, Al Sharpton and the Rev. Jesse Jackson.
        Black and white cops assigned to crowd control are ambushed. A black neighborhood burns.
        BLM feels vindicated until the four special needs white people are acquited.
        Then the real hell kicks off.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years ago
    Every crime is a crime of hate: of disdain for the accepted rules of society. Whether the crime is against an individual or against a city, it is still a crime. What they are really discussing with "hate" crimes are crimes which have a motive of irrational passion resulting from one person viewing another as less of a different class of human than himself. In a society of true equals, crime disappears completely.
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    • Posted by $ 8 years ago
      Certainly can be argued that way. Although it does water down the meaning of "hate". My brother likes to assign "laziness" to the motive for all crime. I like this distinction better.
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      • Posted by $ blarman 8 years ago
        I would certainly agree that theft is spawned from largely from laziness. Some cases of murder - such as in cases where the murderer expects to gain from the murder - can be similarly argued to spawn from greed (which has a component of laziness). But I hesitate to associate all crime with laziness, as there are some crimes which are undertaken only after a lot of planning and forethought. I think the real all-encompassing term is rebellion.
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        • Posted by $ 8 years ago
          That is worth a discussion! I see where you are coming from, but in the case of the "lots of planning and forethought", the perpetrator still thought this was worth more than achieving the same end with legal means.
          Personally I think one can argue that both ways of looking at it are valid. I just like the laziness view, because it takes away the "cool" factor of the crimes and demeans the perpetrator.
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          • Posted by $ blarman 8 years ago
            Is it laziness or is it the peer pressure/desire for public approbation? To me those are two separate motivations entirely (the public approbation one is definitely a worthy mention that didn't cross my mind earlier - well done). Another might simply be the thrill or adrenaline rush associated with the act itself. I've heard that many rappers intentionally get themselves involved in crimes to up their "street cred" so that later they can sell more albums.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 8 years ago
    Nothing complicated...everybody knows what a hate crime is...it is when a white criminal does something to a downtrodden minority thereby giving the constantly aggrieved something to piss and man about.

    Quite frankly I seriously doubt that such a "Crime" is even constitutional as it is a crime resulting from thought.....It is impossible to discern what someone was thinking when they commit an act. Therefore I suspect the civil war [equal protection] amendments would make such "Crimes" unconstitutional. I think that a strict reading of the constitution would reveal that there is no basis for prosecuting someone for a thought crime...only the actual act should be punishable.

    This sort of "Crime" is just like all the regulations that Hank Reardon complained about when being asked to steel Reardon metal to the state science institute. He was told not to worry about them because "our friends don't have a problem with those laws" ...IE if laws are malleable and subject to interpretation...they can be used to oppress....and that is in the final analyses the reason for "Laws" like these.
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  • Posted by Flootus5 8 years ago
    One thing here that constantly bugs me. Whenever I read BLM, I think Bureau of Land Management. That political entity has been an oppressor to me my whole adult career.

    When the BLM management policies have been hijacked by an environmental agenda that hates mining, don't we have a hate crime of extinction of private property rights performed through administrative fiat?
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 8 years ago
    "Hate Crime" is a form of "Thought Crime". This Orwellian concept is consistent with Stalinist orthodoxy but antithetical to a free society. Doing injury to another is and should be a crime. The concept of "Hate Crime" opens the door to "acceptable" or "appropriate" crimes as well as those that are unacceptable in addition to being illegal.
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