Political Ideology and Word Choice

Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years, 4 months ago to Politics
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It seems to me that people of a rightwing ideology are more likely than others to interject one of these phrases into their speech writing: "plain and simple", "case closed", "end of discussion".

This would make sense if it were in a case where we had put them in charge of something or made them an arbitrator or judge of some kind. But they use it with people who don't give a whit about their opinion (for its own sake), the way people where I come from use "hey".

I suspect leftwing people are just as self-assured that the world puts them in charge of decisions and they use similar but different phrases. Maybe it's "the fact of the matter" or "at the end of the day".

Let me try using a rightwing wank-phrase: "Beyond the increased "utility', there's a clear advantage to living a world with less wealth disparity, case closed." Wow. When I put it that way, it sounds like a rightwing idea. "There's a clear advantage to living a world with less wealth disparity, hey," just doesn't sound right. It sounds like you're talking about the Packers or about to start a sing-along in the Capitol.

Rightwingers are top when it comes to selfassuredness.


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  • Posted by Rozar 11 years, 4 months ago
    Agreed, I'd assume it's part of their general outlook on owning your decisions. If you're going to say something you should stand behind it. I use the case closed as a way to end a discussion when I feel neither party will concede to the others view point, after I finish stating my stance on a subject. Coming from the far left but being closer to the right now, it still feels like an insult when I'm lumped into the right wing category btw.

    Also I don't mind being wrong, but I'll stand on my laurels until you can prove that I am. Case closed?
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    • Posted by 11 years, 4 months ago
      Interesting.

      It occurs to me now that rightwing people and libertarians are more likely to begin with sacrosanct principles. They often want to follow the principles no matter what the consequences. The left has more of a disjointed list of problems and solutions, with no ideology that ties them all together.
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      • Posted by Rozar 11 years, 4 months ago
        Haha yes I agree fully on that. I can get my friends to agree with me on many subjects using logic, but if use the same logic on a different subject they'll disagree with me adamantly. The logic is the same but they say it doesn't matter.
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  • Posted by Spinkane 11 years, 4 months ago
    For me the most frustrating thing a progressive says is nothing. For a real example, I say “So you want to buy a product from me, use it; then tell me what to do with the money.” The response was, “I don’t want to talk about it.” Not to mention, 2008 “What about this Fannie Freddie thing?” no answer. The Arab Spring? really? you buy that? how about Caliphate or the Muslim Brotherhood? Answer: “You’re a hater.” P.S. Benghazi was a reaction to a video. WHAT?!? As polite as I was during these conversations, my progressive friends avoid any more political conversations with me; which amounts to saying nothing, again.
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    • Posted by richrobinson 11 years, 4 months ago
      I have some liberal friends that I discuss polotics with. They will actually admit sometimes that they agree with me. The worst are those that can never agree with me because they have labeled me right wing and stereotyped me. Maybe silence isn't so bad.
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      • Posted by Spinkane 11 years, 4 months ago
        I suspect the collective good feeling from supporting good intentions is contagious. As long as you don’t have to explain the logic, sustainability or constitutionality of the good idea du jour it all seems good. Of course if you ask “At whose expense” as Ayn Rand suggests, you stumble on the absence of logic in the proposition. The first paragraph of Section 8 Article 1 of the US Constitution ends with “but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States.” TARP, Bailouts, ACA and a myriad of other Federal Programs ignore this in the interest of redistributing wealth to the more liberal states. It’s happening, more is coming and it could prove fatal. In the end everybody loses; see Greece. Better Yet read Atlas Shrugged!
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    • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 4 months ago
      I did a post once titled...THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING.. wondering why no one will talk about anything important. PC.? Worried about offending someone? Don't have opinion on anything? Don't KNOW anything? I'm still baffled..and also frustrated.
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    • Posted by 11 years, 4 months ago
      Maybe they don't know or just don't want to talk about it. Maybe the reject the premise about wanting to buy something and then tell you what to do with the money. Also, many rightwingers and leftwingers know very little about it.

      I was someone uninterested in politics watching a news channel with a bias opposite of her families. "That channel gives the [insert political party] view."
      "Really!? I didn't know. I'm turning it off."
      She wasn't that into it, but she knew which side she was on.
      This is not a desirable thing, but maybe it makes some sense given all the things in life people are trying to accomplish.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 11 years, 4 months ago
    I'd contend, based on extensive experience, that those of the left-wing are the first to call for the free speech and the free exchange of ideas AND the very first to tell you to shut up or threaten you if what you think isn't what they want to hear.

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  • Posted by richrobinson 11 years, 4 months ago
    It seems to me that some things are that cut and dry. Raise taxes and the economy suffers. Lower taxes and the economy does well. The problem arises when someone from the left tries to dispute obvious facts. Why am I sure a smaller government is better. Historical facts prove it. I am not just following an ideology or stating an opinion.
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