Omg, yes! Yes! Yes! Ahem.... And now a more composed reply; that is the least that that in contempt contemptible liar deserves. I sincerely would like to see this resolution come to pass. However, it's taken them much too long to come to this juncture.
Sure took them long enough. Place her under arrest, take away her "paid leave" retroactively, hit her in the pocketbook and watch how fast she flips on who was REALLY at the root of this. Anyone wanna be it is Valerie Jarret? Obama is to damn stupid to organize that.
Eric Holder's DOJ will never arrest any member of the Obama regime, no matter how egregious their trespass. I can understand this grandstand move, taken out of sheer frustration. The revelation of just one of Lerner's emails created such a sensation that I can only imagine what the rest of them might be about. A judge has asked the IRS to explain how the emails in question went missing, when it is directly specified that they must be preserved. The response by the IRS should be quite informative.
It is a crime to deliberately destroy the emails claimed to be lost. Lerner, taking the 5th, does so because she fears if she says the truth she'll be indicted, and if she lies to congress, that also is a crime. What the DOJ should do in such a case is to enlist a Special Prosecutor -- which will never happen under Holder.
The House Sergeant-at-Arms doesn't fall under the jurisdiction of the Department of Justice. It is also interesting to note that at the direction of the House, the Sergeant-at-Arms can arrest ANYONE - including the President of the United States if engaged in treason.
What they do afterwards is kind of up in the air legally, but they can definitely hold Lerner in contempt in a holding facility indefinitely.
I just emailed my congressional representative asking him to "support Congressman Stockman's resolution directing the House sergeant-at-arms to 'arrest Lois Lerner for contempt of Congress' over the IRS targeting scandal." We can and should help support this move.
The big government establishment neo-cons? They are the strong arm union of congress and will never uphold the constitutional laws they swore to uphold.
I'd not call somebody breaking campaign laws, numerous IRS codes dealing with security, records keeping, and who knows what else a tempest in a teapot. As a conservative who was on the crosshairs of the IRS in this same timeframe, with EVERY financial record I made over years gone through with a fine toothed comb, an exam that cost me over $20,000 in accountant fees alone, a year and a half of sleepless nights, ulcers and through it all I knew that I had done nothing wrong at all. But "this" person can sit at a microphone and say "I'll plead the 5th", and we are supposed to say "OK, nothing here" and go on down the road???? A Tempest in a teapot???
A supervisor in one of the strongest arms of government, one that can ruin a persons life, put them in jail, confiscate their property, bank accounts and pay, all WITHOUT ever going before a judge???
I'm completely confused by your statement. I know people are saying that Bill Clinton was impeached and still walked, but Bill did not use the IRS and FBI to persecute his enemies, he only made out in the Oval Office. Richard Nixon resigned because he was caught with his fingers in the cookie jar using governmental agencies to harass his enemies - sound familiar. Learner conveniently "lost" 2 years of emails and now it appears she discovered another method of interdepartmental communication that did not leave a trail of evidence, which when she discovered this exclaimed "Goodie!".
Richard Nixon lost 18 minutes of tape, not two years. Richard Nixon was snagged by a recording system that was installed for his own use and was not a mandated records system. Lois Lerner appears to have circumvented a system that existed to insure that there would be a trail of records. A system created to expressly insure that what occurred would not happen and somehow it wasn't limited to one computer - 6 other people all directly involved in this mess all experienced the same failure within a day or two of each other. One computer might happen, a couple computers in different offices might fail, but 6 computers, all on the desks of people emailing each other in the same division all had the same failure?? No Way!
In addition to the odd group failure of these computers, it seems that they all also did not perform the required back ups to the central computer. I'm NOT a IT person, but my own home network makes weekly backs of every computer to a networks storage device. All automatically unless I disable it on a computer. This requires a knowledgeable act. It cannot be done by accident. If I can do this at home, don't it seem right that the IRS could manage to do the same thing? And if Learner turned off her legally mandated backups on her computer and 6 of her close work partners all did the same thing, don't you think it might just be more than a tempest in a teapot?
Oh...please!!! We saw our illustrious Attorney General pull the same stunt and get away with it. I'm sorry, fellow Shruggers, but anyone who believes Lerner's situation will end differently is living in a dream world.
We as a country owe President Nixon an apology for treating him like we did in contrast to how we have treated Clinton and obama. This is simply the biggest coverup in our nation's history and nothing is being done. To me the emails could be found even if they can't find the hard drives, yes, drives plural. 7-8 other drives mysteriously crashed and have been tossed aside and cannot be found. All they have to do is look at all of the computers that Learner emailed to. Of course all of these hard drives could have crashed but let's take a chance before they go missing. Why can we not accomplish anything in less than 6 months?
Those darn hard drives... they just crash at the most inconvenient times, ya know? I mean each of us has probably had one crash every day, right? <ahem>
it appears that things like this and Boehner's lawsuit are attempts to show action, when the real action should be the denial of $$ for illegal activities within the administration. no cojones republicans -- j
Ahem....
And now a more composed reply; that is the least that that in contempt contemptible liar deserves. I sincerely would like to see this resolution come to pass. However, it's taken them much too long to come to this juncture.
Never happen.
What they do afterwards is kind of up in the air legally, but they can definitely hold Lerner in contempt in a holding facility indefinitely.
gutless Congress, this will never happen....
A supervisor in one of the strongest arms of government, one that can ruin a persons life, put them in jail, confiscate their property, bank accounts and pay, all WITHOUT ever going before a judge???
I'm completely confused by your statement. I know people are saying that Bill Clinton was impeached and still walked, but Bill did not use the IRS and FBI to persecute his enemies, he only made out in the Oval Office. Richard Nixon resigned because he was caught with his fingers in the cookie jar using governmental agencies to harass his enemies - sound familiar. Learner conveniently "lost" 2 years of emails and now it appears she discovered another method of interdepartmental communication that did not leave a trail of evidence, which when she discovered this exclaimed "Goodie!".
Richard Nixon lost 18 minutes of tape, not two years. Richard Nixon was snagged by a recording system that was installed for his own use and was not a mandated records system. Lois Lerner appears to have circumvented a system that existed to insure that there would be a trail of records. A system created to expressly insure that what occurred would not happen and somehow it wasn't limited to one computer - 6 other people all directly involved in this mess all experienced the same failure within a day or two of each other. One computer might happen, a couple computers in different offices might fail, but 6 computers, all on the desks of people emailing each other in the same division all had the same failure?? No Way!
In addition to the odd group failure of these computers, it seems that they all also did not perform the required back ups to the central computer. I'm NOT a IT person, but my own home network makes weekly backs of every computer to a networks storage device. All automatically unless I disable it on a computer. This requires a knowledgeable act. It cannot be done by accident. If I can do this at home, don't it seem right that the IRS could manage to do the same thing? And if Learner turned off her legally mandated backups on her computer and 6 of her close work partners all did the same thing, don't you think it might just be more than a tempest in a teapot?
We saw our illustrious Attorney General pull the same stunt and get away with it.
I'm sorry, fellow Shruggers, but anyone who believes Lerner's situation will end differently is living in a dream world.
are attempts to show action, when the real action
should be the denial of $$ for illegal activities within
the administration. no cojones republicans -- j