Exactly; and exactly why she is absolutely the wrong woman to be the first for Pres. She also has to take that stand because of what Rand says about the moochers. Ironic is Trump's response: he is certainly not an AS hero!
Hillary was a fan of The Fountainhead in high school where she was a 'Goldwater Girl'. She didn't understand it then and still doesn't, but knows she is the opposite. She flipped to the New Left in college in the 1960s as a follower of Saul Alinsky.
That was about the time the goofy Methoodist minister did a number on her. It is also about teh time she was hospitalized for a psychiatric disorder of out of control mania. Which obviously still plagues her, as when she F-bombed the staff after one debate, one aide called her "psychotic" and one network employee actually said she was "manic". She is not a well person and certainly not up to fitting the AS mold of what a person should be. In her works, SHE is "unfit" to be president.
Here is a link to a website on the minister and Hillary. Originally, it was a chapter in a book I have from when Clinton was in office, I will try to find that also. http://archive.boston.com/news/nation...
Actually, I was thinking the same thing. I don't think that she even read the Cliff Notes. "Boyish fantasy" good grief with a heroine like Dagny! I would love to see her debate Dagny.
her campaign probably told her to say it. Unfortunately for her, people who HAVE read AS would say that Hillary was totally wrong, and people who HAVENT read it would not know what she was talking about.
Thanks to you and others for pointing out this is bogus. I should have put it up as something she was " purported" to have said. Appreciate your making this clear.
Although this article from 2012 claims she went through an "Ayn Rand phase". Personally, I do not think she could or would read the book, as so much of it would tend to make her feel like someone has been spying on her all these years and knows what she is up to, and her grand secret plan to dominate the world was compromised.
the site for this article is www.ncscooper.com which is a satire site. I would expect the entire article is made up. The site is full of other "click bait" type articles - and may hold some entertainment. It tends to have a local flair to it for me, since I am in Nevada County (California), although I have not ran across this site before.
Just finished watching the AS trilogy for the fourth time. Hillary is disturbingly similar to the collectivist villains portrayed in the movies. I can see her sitting with her fellow travelers sipping brandy and deciding to "sacrifice the sickly parts" of the nation for the greater good. HRC is a caricature of herself a roll for which she is well suited.
Neither. Instead, Ivy Starnes. As described by Jeff Allen,
"She was our Director of Distribution. She was . . . in charge of our needs. . . . [P]etitions of need . . . . had to be recited to her . . . . Her gauge was bootlicking. . . . [H]er eyes glinted when she watched some man who'd talked back to her once . . . getting nothing above basic pittance. . . . 'From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.' . . . . Our agony took four years . . . and it ended the only way it could end: in bankruptcy. . . . She . . . said that the plan had failed because . . . the country had not accepted it . . . and that the plan was a noble ideal, but human nature was not good enough for it."
I'm with the "I doubt she ever read it" group. And I may not be remembering right, but didn't Obama call AS a "good book for naive teenagers, something you grow out of" or something to that effect?
I guess 45 years after reading it, I haven't grown up yet, and never will if that's the standard.
Yeah, parts of this are very hard to corroborate. The Ryan stuff seems true and Trump does credit the "Fountainhead" as inspiration. But I am starting to doubt the quote, it would have to have been made in July when she was there. Probably hearsay... http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/...
While I put the article as just another political hack piece, I still like the comment about "tripping on her dick". Very apropos...
Hilldarmort (AKA "she who dare not be named") has the people she cheated out of their candidate so thoroughly bamboozled I wonder if some kind of satanic deal was reached. We KNOW that she cheated her way to the nomination...
You forget WHO she is? What she did when her hubby was CiC? I guess people prefer syrupy sweet pabulum covered "BS" to truth and honesty.
I just wonder... how many of her loyal minions, after they wake up from their orgasmatronic hypnosis, will realize that they are as much un-citizens with her at the controls as those unwashed scum who don't fall in line with der fuehrerina...
They like to say, "It's a book of fiction, you know." To that I explain the tradition of how a Russian Jew could write something impactful without going to the gulag. Of course, she was here then. However, there are many, many great impactful works of fiction. They are impactful because they applicable.
Hillary is an evil witch, period. I dont even want to hear what she says, as its all just manipulation and propaganda to get HER power and money at my expense. Too bad a lot of people cant seem to see through her to the REAL HILLARY.
"Boyish fantasy" sounds like a catchphrase given to her by one of her acolytes. It is generic enough to be used for a variety of reasons and I'll bet she has memorized pages full for every situation. One thing for sure, she never read the book.
You're right but it goes deeper than that. She is going to try to control the wind itself. For example, if you try to control the law of supply and demand by altering it, you will fail because the law is immutable. That is one of the major fallacies of collectivism. Mohammed learned that when the mountain refused to come to him so he had to go to it. By the time most socialists learn that, the economy is wrecked and they simply must quit the sham and go straight to dictatorship.
I was trying to convey that they use the unworkable promises of Socialism in order keep the morons happy until everything falls apart, but from then on the pretense is over.
Socialist ideologues like Clinton and Obama do believe in collectivism. She didn't try to put over socialized medicine in the 1990s as an 'opportunist'. She wants the political opportunity to impose it.
Their belief in collectivism doesn't mean that they want to live in poverty themselves. They live like royalty because power seekers always do. That doesn't negate their ideology.
They figure they deserve it. Interesting. WAtch Michelle Obama, the quintessential ghetto person, dance around the state dinners dressed to the hilt at OUR expense...
Hillary has been a far left progressive and follower of the New Left since she was in college where she befriended Saul Alinsky and wrote a gushing thesis about him. That has been her 'weather vane' ever since. Every public change in position has been to facilitate her original leftist thug goal.
Once again shrilly Shillary makes old dino want to raise my tail over her head. Perhaps Ayn Rand imagined such a power-hungry evil hag when saying she would not vote for a female president. No, me dino did not say that. She did. See?
That is not why she said there ordinarily should not be woman president. She explained that she didn't think a woman would want to be president because of feminine psychology, not that none would be capable. But none of that applies to Hillary.
There have been such claims misrepresenting Ayn Rand on this topic in the past on this forum, and it isn't something you would necessarily know about. The worst offense in your post was misrepresenting Shillary Cackles as female, but even Slick Willy made that mistake when he first signed up for their political partnership. That is why I said "none of this applies to Hillary".
Sure doesn't seem that Paul Ryan pays any attention to what he reads to his kids. At least we know Hillary doesn't believe a word of it. But I think it is disgusting to say we are living it out and then vote for things that further it.
Hildacon isn't worthy of speaking about Atlas Shrugged she is the poster child of a slimey Kakistocrat. I will consider Ryan an objectivist when he sounds the alarm loud and clear. Warning the people of the attack and destructive actions weakening the constitution and the inner city. Show the negative effect of the collectivism and victimization. Work on eliminating the viscous regulations that put a stranglehold on small to midsize businesses. Prove that the republicans are interested in clean air and water. Get a message , clean up the corruption and cronyism. Give the hard working Americans a chance to improve their lives. END OBAMACARE.
The fantasy has been playing out in real time ever since Obama took office. We've had businesses consolidated or driven out of of the market place by regulations and taxation, not to mention Democrat and union collusion. If Hillary actually read the book, of which I am skeptical, she must fancy herself os Dagny Taggart whereas she is more like the Leslie Mouch or Dr. Ferris in being toadies to the government edifiace collapsing in on itself while denying that it's happening but are the cause. Having been watching 'Versailles' over the last few weeks, it seems Obama has styled himself after Louis XIV, "L'etat, c'est moi!" He therefore can impose 10-231 on all of us.
She also has to take that stand because of what Rand says about the moochers.
Ironic is Trump's response: he is certainly not an AS hero!
http://archive.boston.com/news/nation...
Yeah, not a real article.
https://drhurd.com/2016/10/19/hillary...
Although this article from 2012 claims she went through an "Ayn Rand phase". Personally, I do not think she could or would read the book, as so much of it would tend to make her feel like someone has been spying on her all these years and knows what she is up to, and her grand secret plan to dominate the world was compromised.
http://observer.com/2012/08/paul-ryan...
www.ncscooper.com
which is a satire site. I would expect the entire
article is made up. The site is full of other "click bait" type articles - and may hold some entertainment.
It tends to have a local flair to it for me, since I am in Nevada County (California), although I have not ran across this site before.
Neither. Instead, Ivy Starnes.
As described by Jeff Allen,
"She was our Director of Distribution. She was . . . in charge of our needs. . . . [P]etitions of need . . . . had to be recited to her . . . . Her gauge was bootlicking. . . . [H]er eyes glinted when she watched some man who'd talked back to her once . . . getting nothing above basic pittance. . . . 'From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.'
. . . .
Our agony took four years . . . and it ended the only way it could end: in bankruptcy. . . . She . . . said that the plan had failed because . . . the country had not accepted it . . . and that the plan was a noble ideal, but human nature was not good enough for it."
Rand stated that she created heroes that she would like to know, rather than trying to make 'real' people of today's world.
I take Hillary's comment about AS as her unwitting but solid endorsement of Trump.
I agree about Hank Rearden having substantial similarities to Trump. Not all, but a number of them.
I guess 45 years after reading it, I haven't grown up yet, and never will if that's the standard.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/...
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-sh...
Hilldarmort (AKA "she who dare not be named") has the people she cheated out of their candidate so thoroughly bamboozled I wonder if some kind of satanic deal was reached. We KNOW that she cheated her way to the nomination...
You forget WHO she is? What she did when her hubby was CiC? I guess people prefer syrupy sweet pabulum covered "BS" to truth and honesty.
I just wonder... how many of her loyal minions, after they wake up from their orgasmatronic hypnosis, will realize that they are as much un-citizens with her at the controls as those unwashed scum who don't fall in line with der fuehrerina...
Leftists absolutely hate this book...
That's depressing if true. I guessed Clinton hadn't read Rand. Do you have a link?
Their belief in collectivism doesn't mean that they want to live in poverty themselves. They live like royalty because power seekers always do. That doesn't negate their ideology.
What's a quintessential ghetto person?
Perhaps Ayn Rand imagined such a power-hungry evil hag when saying she would not vote for a female president.
No, me dino did not say that.
She did. See?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL8g7...
+1 for keeping lackadaisical old dinos on their toes.
"Run away! Run away!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92gP2...
I will consider Ryan an objectivist when he sounds the alarm loud and clear. Warning the people of the attack and destructive actions weakening the constitution and the inner city. Show the negative effect of the collectivism and victimization. Work on eliminating the viscous regulations that put a stranglehold on small to midsize businesses. Prove that the republicans are interested in clean air and water.
Get a message , clean up the corruption and cronyism. Give the hard working Americans a chance to improve their lives. END OBAMACARE.