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If you’re an advocate for diversity – this is your film.

Posted by awebb 8 years, 2 months ago to Movies
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While reviewing my RSS feeds about independent films today I ran across an IndieWire article on a project (film) in progress.

This is the opening paragraph the filmmakers are using to pitch their movie.

"3 out of our 4 leads are female. One is LGTBQ, another is high-functioning with ASD, and the last couple are 60+ in age. They are all Asian-American. In addition, our production team and crew also consists of over 50% women and PoC. If you’re an advocate for diversity – this is your film."

This is the world we live in now.... We're supposed to care about movies not because they are good but because they were made by women or feature actors who are Asian American.

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Full article: http://www.indiewire.com/2016/09/proj...


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  • Posted by Mamaemma 8 years, 2 months ago
    Wouldn't it be great to see an ad for a movie saying, "If you are an advocate for excellence, this is your movie!"
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    • Posted by $ Susanne 8 years, 2 months ago
      I think I saw a 3 part movie like that once... :-)

      It was quite good, actually, and had a lot of good morals and values. And whether or not it had transnational or transracial fruit and vegetable castmembers (Lettuce, Garlic, Broccoli, Tomato, Qumquat) didn't matter.

      Thinking about their premise... I think I've seen more than one Bollywood movie that meets their (tho not necessarily our) criteria.

      All that matters - is that it's been given the blessings (oops, excuse me, need to conform that to the approved non-religious or sociologically non-preferential) approval of the State Ministry for Equal Opportunity, Non-Discrimination, and Political Correctness. And that the appropriate politicians in charge of the Bureau of Nannyist Overlords got their specific and unearned "permit and license fees".
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    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 2 months ago
      Remember when the had X R PG and G? Bean counter sttistics proved that PG and G out box officed R every day of the week and twice on Sundays. The response from Hollywood? More R Movies. Any recommendations of new releases. i'd rather pay for your point of view than a whole raft of cliches and critics.
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      • Posted by 8 years, 2 months ago
        I especially appreciated it (insert much needed sarcasm emoji here) when they started talking about giving movies with people smoking in them a worse rating. Violence --- yeah, that's okay. Cursing --- sure, no problem. A cigarette --- are you out of your mind!?
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 2 months ago
    I purposely will not watch movies that fake this kind of diversity...it's not reality. Likewise with sequels that change the main characters from male to female...there is just something wrong with that picture...kinda like revising history.
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    • Posted by mccannon01 8 years, 2 months ago
      "...kinda like revising history". I've noticed the same thing over the past couple of decades. Old classic movies and stories being remade with "diverse" themes or characters replacing or added to the originals.
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      • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 2 months ago
        Exactly...if the main character is male or female then a sequel should follow that. It's one thing to add a character, say an offspring of one of the originals but it's another to change the entire cast into what they want it to be. If your going to do that then call it something different.
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        • Posted by mccannon01 8 years, 2 months ago
          "...call it something different." Yes, like the remake of "Omega Man" starring Charlton Heston was remade into "I Am Legend" starring Will Smith - both well done movies and both great actors. However, that was a futuristic sci-fi tale where the hero could be played successfully by any race or gender. I get irritated when Hollywood rewrites legendary tales with a deliberate PC entry and messes up history as well. For example, the tale of Robin Hood was definitely PC tampered with in the Kevin Costner rendition where an apparently not-too-smart Robin needed a Black African Muslim sage to advise him and help save the day. Also, the sage amazed Robin with a telescope, which wouldn't be invented for a few more centuries hence by a Dutchman right across the channel from England.

          What I do find inexcusable is a rewrite of historical fact in order to force a PC theme. The most recent example I have just seen is the History Channel's depiction of Hannibal during their "Barbarian" series. Hannibal was being depicted as a sub-Saharan African when the Carthaginians were originally Phoenicians from the Eastern Mediterranean (Lebanon/Syria area), but I can let that pass until... Jesse Jackson was chosen to be one of the commentators for this segment and his PC spin was the Romans (white people) were slaughtering and enslaving their way to empire while the Carthaginians (supposedly black Africans) were fighting to set people free. cough cough WHAT?! He and the History Channel were now PC rewriting what is well known about Carthage, Rome and the Punic Wars. In reality Carthage was a three tiered society with Carthaginian/Phoenician citizens on top, foreigners/traders second, and slaves third - Carthage was a slave holding nation as well as Rome, but you wouldn't know that after listening to Jackson's narrative. Carthage and Rome were two bullies fighting over the same block, but the History Channel turned it into a Rome (bad white people) vs Carthage (good black people) contest, which is a totally false narrative.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 8 years, 2 months ago
    Liberalism is a religion and selecting a film like this is like going to church is for some people...something you feel you have a duty to do but don't really care for.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 2 months ago
    They probably feel this is in their best interest.
    Extraterrestrial invaders could not have concocted a better, more devious way to turn humans against each other.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 2 months ago
    I'm all for diversity but it must be natural diversity, not forced diversity. If I was forced to hire in a diverse manner I would hire exclusively Samoans just to piss the government off.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 2 months ago
    the whole issue of "diversity" is basically based on racism and bigotry. Who cares about LBTBQ. Shouldnt even be an issue at all. All people are just PEOPLE. Black lives dont matter any more than any other lives. Thats a racist group, trying to elevate black people over others.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 2 months ago
    The music is way too loud for the tin ears of my tinnitus, I guess.
    Apparently, the loud music did not drown out what was being said for the rest of y'all.
    Me dino gave up trying to read lips for just less than a minute.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 2 months ago
    This is that stupid notion of "Social Justice". One more reason to boycott Hollywood.
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    • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 2 months ago
      I'm a huge supporter of social justice, but this blurb reads like a parody of people covering all their minority-group bases.
      "Have we covered our MARS bases: Marital Status, Age, Race, and Sex"
      "Yes. We've got >60, Asian, and >50% females. OH crap, we forgot marital status."
      "LGBTQ counts for that now, so we're covered."
      "Oh good. I dodged a bullet."
      "Please, no violent metaphors. We avoided an imbroglio."
      That's how I imagine it, anyway. :)
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      • Posted by Mamaemma 8 years, 2 months ago
        What is social justice?
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        • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 2 months ago
          It's a kind of prejudice that assumes all white, heterosexual men are automatically bigots, and everyone else is automatically a victim and entitled to demand whatever they want. They also scream at people for very minor kinds of cultural ignorance ("microaggressions") and for "cultural appropriation." And for not automatically believing every woman who accuses someone of rape or domestic violence.

          See https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Soci...

          Those who support that view are known as "Social Justice Warriors" (SJW), "crybullies", and "special snowflakes".

          Their common tactics are to hold public tantrums and to shut opponents up by force. Marxist slogans such as "Check your privilege!" are theirs. Lots of examples here: https://www.reddit.com/r/SocialJustic...

          Their relevance to Hollywood is that they want to take every good film, book, TV show, etc. and remake it with a ton of gratuitous minority characters, even if they bring the plot to a halt or make it ridiculous.

          They also want to rewrite history to be "fair" to minorities even though it means not giving proper credit for the achievements that are the basis of modern civilization.
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          • Posted by Mamaemma 8 years, 2 months ago
            About 20 years ago I received a form from the federal government to fill out so I would be registered as a "minority-owned business" and therefore granted many concessions. I tore it up in disgust! 20 years later, here and now, I could probably use some more favorable treatment, seeing as how I am locked in a daily struggle to survive government regulations and interference and control! Wish they'd just leave me the hell alone!
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          • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 2 months ago
            I think there are different definitions. When I use it I'm referring to the things the Social Justice Committee at my church does.
            http://fusmadison.org/socialjustice
            I've heard of little bits of that weird political stuff you mentioned but thankfully not at social justice events. I think (at least hope) that "safe space" stuff has hit its high water mark and is receding.
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        • Posted by Lucky 8 years, 2 months ago
          Social justice-
          the system of selecting people for jobs, positions and awards according to group membership, self identification is ok. Priorities are given to groups who are violent (this is practiced without discrimination) as they suffered imagined injustices to their (chosen) ancestors from old white males. Actually just membership of those groups rates only half way up, only those who complain and threaten the most as community agit/organz/spokespersons get top rating.

          Many old white males conform to the standards, it is a self-sacrifice, living for the sake of (certain) others, a metaphorical form of self-flagellation. Very praise worthy I am sure tho' personally, I do not live up to those high standards.
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  • Posted by edweaver 8 years, 2 months ago
    Let me guess, is the movie about white males that control the world? :)
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    • Posted by 8 years, 2 months ago
      I know that was in jest but after reading the article I have to say the movie doesn't seem to be about much of anything... which doesn't matter. You should still see it because one of the characters is LGTBQ.
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      • Posted by $ Susanne 8 years, 2 months ago
        I'm trying to remember back a few years, but it seems to me it's come up from time to time that this forum has a few members in that same multi-lettered group, and I know for certain it's a "multi-racial" forum as well. Meaning, instead of watching their vanilla-flavored library-paste of a botch-job non-entertainment venue (I don't want to sully the word "movie" by associating it with that non-entity) of questionable value and schlocky promotional propaganda, they should instead watch something with values, excitement, and (to add to that) damned fine entertainment.
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