American beer is awesome, and Michael Moore is an a**hole [VIDEO] - See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/08/American Beer is Awesome and Michael-Moore Is An A-hole

Posted by tohar1 8 years, 2 months ago to Entertainment
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I found pretty good humor in this video by Conservative Review...especially since some good friends of mine run Junkyard Brewery in Moorhead, MN. Going into Labor Day here in the US, what's better than an article promoting Good Old American Beer and pointing out that the insufferable Michael Moore is what he is?
SOURCE URL: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/08/american-beer-is-awesome-and-michael-moore-is-an-a-hole


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  • Posted by mccannon01 8 years, 2 months ago
    Michael Moore is a classic example of a one percenter the left loves to hate. He became filthy rich exploiting the masses by selling them garbage at premium prices and laughing all the way to the bank. He's a king of crony capitalism. He's the pied piper playing the hypnotic tune that leads rats and naive children to their demise and gets paid for doing it.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 2 months ago
    Definitely favor American micro-brew beer and wouldn't miss Michael Moore if he took the next global warming shuttle into the sun.
    Ever make your own brew, tohart?
    Great way to avoid the liquor taxes.
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    • Posted by $ DriveTrain 8 years, 2 months ago
      Freedomforall, I did a brief stint at homebrewing during the decade or so I spent in Portland. It was the "soup" method for me - prefab canned malts rather than grinding my own grain and investing hundreds in malting equipment. I have fond memories of trading homebrews with a couple of hobbyist friends. My best brew was a dark, gnarly concoction that I dubbed "Mahogany Rush IV" after the Hendrixy '70s album. Appropriately, it was deep, woody brew with a high alcohol content - also a fine industrial solvent.

      I lost the "bug" when the novelty of "I made this" got outweighed by the realization that it was far more cost-effective to just go out and buy beer - to say nothing of the labor-intensive nature of brewing, even via the soup-cheater method. But the sight of that malt literally swirling around inside the carboy with no outside stimulus - the yeastie-beasties working their magic - is hard to forget. 8^D

      How 'bout you? Ever brewed your own?
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      • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 2 months ago
        Hi, DriveTrain. Yes, I started home brewing when my best friends, Scott and Rob, owned a restaurant/wine bar, and Rob brewed his own beer at home. With Rob's advice, Scott and I embarked on a journey into brewing Nirvana. (The wholesale discount on supplies didn't hurt either.) We also limited our investment to extract recipes with some added grains (black patent, roasted barley, et al.) For over a year we brewed 5 to 10 gal a weekend until there wasn't room for more beer in Scott's basement. I also got my brother-in-law started home brewing, and he gave me a corny keg and CO2 regulator so I could make keg beer, too. After that I rested for some years until I moved to NZ. There I bought the gear I needed for extract brewing on trademe and enjoyed using NZ grown hops in my brews. Gave it up, (and trained the new brewer who bought the gear) when I moved to Oz. Now back in the US, I plan to start again when my location is more settled.
        While I enjoy an occasional visit to a microbrew bar, I get no pleasure from a $7 glass of brew when I can brew it as well at home for 75 cents.
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  • Posted by $ DriveTrain 8 years, 2 months ago
    It took me awhile to find Moore's actual comment on beer, and it was an aside in a Twit on the "Brexit" vote:

    "Europe, u are better off w/o Brits! Now that there's a vacancy, take us! We want what Europe has: free health care, free college, real beer!"[sic]

    Most of what emanates from Moore is not worthy of comment - though he got the "Patriot Act" right, presumably by accident - and this Twit is no exception. Like every spoiled-punk-grown-large, he fantasizes aloud about successfully evading reality via "free" stuff. 'Don't think I need to go into that subject at all, not here at any rate. 8^]

    His blanket swipe at American beer is similarly foolish of course, but since it brings up an inescapably fun subject... Beer is a project of dedicated lifelong research for a lot of us, and my own faves come from a lot of different places, some of them (gasp!) beyond American borders. In beer too, reality trumps nationalism, so listen up, Mr. Moore: the reality of beer flavor, though it can be influenced by local water and ingredients, is not otherwise relevant to location in any way. It's a product of individual creativity, and that's something that does not depend on borders. [I hasten to add that in context of political globalism, I am a nationalist - or maybe a "nationist" - righteously. One-world government will only become feasible when multiple off-Earth colonies are thriving and when interplanetary vehicles are as common and readily-available as bicycles, not before.]

    Samuel Adams remains my standard-default go-to beer, because it's simply excellent in every way - but given the same availability, I would choose my current favorite, Einstok Icelandic Pale Ale, in a heartbeat. Excuse me, Einstök. (Anything with an umlaut must rule - it's the law of metal, or something.) Seriously, the first time I saw the viking logo I suppressed a laugh and grabbed a six-pack just on an exploratory lark, assuming it would be a horrible-tasting novelty. But when that first quaff hit my mouth... So there's a small lesson in risk-taking, folks - it sometimes yields unexpected, positive results. Einstök Pale Ale is a perfect balance of light drinkability with a phenomenal depth of character. Easily my favorite beer - until the next fave comes along. Fickle is the nature of beer appraisal, particularly when 48,651 new varieties are appearing every... hour or so.

    I am a huge critic of this faddish IPA-overkill thing we've seen in the US over the last few years and eagerly await the return of variety to supermarket beer shelves soon, but though I'd settled on Guinness' Nitro IPA to be the best intersection of "palatable" and "available" on those rare occasions when I'm in the mood for around-the-Horn hoppage, I still consider Full Sail Brewery in Hood River, Oregon to be the only producer, anywhere, of an India Pale Ale worthy of the appraisal "outstanding." But it's just damn hard to find, unless you're a fanatical windsurfer.

    Other faves, also coming from everywhere:
    - Anchor Steam and Liberty Ale from Anchor Brewing in San Francisco;
    - Hatachino Nest Pale Ale from Kiuchi Brewing in Ibaraki, Japan;
    - virtually everything that comes from the Widmer Brothers in Portland;
    - ditto everything that comes from Wychwood Brewing in Whitney, Oxfordshire, England - particularly their rare King Goblin English strong ale (they've also got a relentlessly-cool website, here: http://www.wychwood.co.uk/ );

    Yes, America truly is a cornucopia of magnificent malts, but any blanket pronouncement of superior taste based on nationality is silly, no matter which direction it's pointed. Kibbe is not doing an American version of Moore's comment, rather pointing out the fact that we have hundreds of beer producers from which to choose here. But neither should we ignore the great stuff that's coming from creative minds elsewhere.

    /soapbox

    P.S. - As a grad of Shanley High with fond memories of crossing the Red River to Moorhead liquor stores - to take advantage of that excellent MN vs ND "legal drinking age" difference, I hereby pledge to make Junkyard Brewing a must-visit on my next trip back home. Copious thanks for the tip, tohar1 !
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    • Posted by 8 years, 2 months ago
      Not sure if you're aware, but the entire F-M area has gone through a renaissance of microbreweries (5+ locally) plus one specializing in mead and also a new Distillery in town producing locally sourced brandy, rum, and vodka. Then one can't discount the offerings of the many wineries available with just a quick drive. To be honest, I'm quite amazed at the selection for our size of community! (Junkyard is still my favorite though)
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      • Posted by $ DriveTrain 8 years, 2 months ago
        I am totally there. My last trip through Fargo was in summer of 2012, and I was astonished - also a little disappointed - in how it's changed.

        On the upside, I got a room on the east side of the 16th floor of the Radisson, which meant I could actually look down on the roof of the Fargo Civic Center, the place I saw my very first rock concert (Rush with Max Webster, May 1977,) and where I saw Ronald Reagan in person, sometime in 1976.

        On the downside (for me personally, anyway,) the very first McDonald's I ever went to, up on N. Broadway at the turnoff to my other H.S., Cardinal Muench (since bulldozed,) is shuttered and overgrown with weeds, that great old turn-of-the-century atrium mall called "Block 6" down on NP Avenue is now an anonymous apartment building, the Mother's Records "church" on 6th Street is now rowhouse condos, and the VFW downtown is now a dive bar infested with "hipsters."

        I still want to go back and spend more time there though - I was only in town overnight on a long road-trip, so lots of old haunts to explore. I'll definitely be checking out the alcohol-production scene though. Thanks again for the heads-up.
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        • Posted by 8 years, 2 months ago
          Things definitely have changed! If it makes you feel any better, I recently built a home in South Fargo where some 25 years ago, a buddy of mine & I used to go hunting. I'm nowhere near the edge of town, but I still have Hungarian partridge running around my backyard...tempting to snare a couple for supper one night. Truth be told, now it's more fun just to feed them and see them running around...especially when we get a new hatch of chicks.
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    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 2 months ago
      Man's point of view. Real Sailors drink Moose Drool and so do their crews.

      Womans point of view. When the crew are drinking Moose Drool there is nothing left for the Skipper.

      Big Sky Brewing in Missoula Montana. Also Powder Hound and Slow Elk.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 2 months ago
    Michael Moore as an A-Hole is actually a step up for him. For one thing, much of Europe likes warm beer. That tells you right there that they don't even know what good beer is. For a while, local breweries were disappearing faster than a drop of Budweiser on the sands of Sahara. But now there is a comeback taking place just when I'm not allowed to have alcohol. !@#$%^^%$#@!!! I definitely am gonna cheat. Who wants to live forever?

    Actually, I see a benefit in Mr. Moore. He is the epitome of most everything that's wrong with the human race. If ever you're in doubt about anything, just think of what Michael Moore would do and do the opposite.
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    • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 2 months ago
      Well, Americans effectively invented ice when it comes to beverages. Europeans just didn't consider it important. You should read some of the history of exporting ice from the great lakes. It's very interesting.
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      • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 2 months ago
        Stroh's was a local brewery in Detroit. During Prohibition, in order stay in business, they took to making ice cream. After Prohibition they continued to make the ice cream which was better than their beer. Lots of butter fat.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 2 months ago
    I started with Pabst Blue Ribbon when I was in college (got the idea from PBR being Mike Hammer's favorite - I was corrupted by Micky Spillane), but I really enjoy trying out microbrews, and I think it's a great American enterprise, with lots of small businesses.
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  • Posted by jimjamesjames 8 years, 2 months ago
    Bud is not American.
    "InBev is headquartered in Belgium and publicly traded on the on the Euronext stock exchange. With more than 155,000 employees around the world, the company serves as one of the top five consumer product organizations and has more than 200 beer brands in its portfolio. InBev sells its offerings in markets around the world. The company owns six of the ten most valuable brands in the world, which includes Bud Light, Budweiser, Corona, Skol, Stella Artois and Brahma."

    Having been a home brewer for years, megaswills do not cut it for me. And as one guy said, "People who drink light beer do not like beer."
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    • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 2 months ago
      Agreed, jjj. None of the mass market brew compares favorably with home brewed, even the easy extract recipes. Cost is lower (tax savings mostly) , ingredients can be higher quality, and if you have time, it's a fun hobby to share with friends. I wish the spirits industry (and the feds) would get out of the way and let us change the laws to allow legal home spirits distillation, too, but even George Washington was a statist on that.
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      • Posted by jimjamesjames 8 years, 2 months ago
        and playing with recipes is a delight. Of my near 200 batches over the years, my favorite was what I called Mt Isa Mines Misery (worked in that mine in Australia in 1967). Strongest,, blackest, heartiest brew I ever did. Also, my Speedgoat Pale Ale took second in Brewfest in Lander, Wyoming a few years ago. Also made Kaleb's Toasted Oat Breakfast Ale when my grandson was 90 days old. He's now 19. Tried a bottle a couple years ago and it was still great, very heavy, very dark brew. Two bottles left and will open them when he turns 21..... and hope for the best!!
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        • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 2 months ago
          I have switched home brewing on and off several times with lifestyle changes, currently off, but looking forward to starting up again. My most popular brews were Jamaican Blue Mountain Coffee Stout, Procrastination Porter, and ladies liked the Raspberry Lambic. My Barleywine Ale was a personal favorite to age over the years.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 2 months ago
    I like trying different microbrews, but I really like Budweiser. European bartenders give me dirty looks, and probably rightly so, when they're showing me their selection of local beers and I say, "so which one is closest to a Bud Light?"
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    • Posted by 8 years, 2 months ago
      Probably not a popular opinion (since millions of people drink that) but I protest when someone offers me a beer, then hands me a Bud Light...I usually protest saying, "I thought you offered me a beer!" I've never understood how anyone could drink Bud Light...even Bud isn't godawful IMO, but BL is pretty close to bad. Sorry!
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