Galt's Gulch

Suffering is Good

Posted by $ MikeMarotta 8 years, 8 months ago to Humor
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 8 months ago
    I just fell down Tuesday and broke some ribs. You can take my word for it, SUFFERING AIN"T GOOD! Since I don't want addiction I'm toughing it out with Tylenol.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 8 months ago
    It long ago occurred to old dino that the famous quote, "That which does not kill us makes us stronger" by Friedrich Nietzsche (or "an old Klingon proverb" in a Tarantino movie) ain't necessarily so.
    Such experience may work out for some (such as those who are not weeded out of a military boot camp) but I do not perceive any suffering's resultant mental problems such as post traumatic syndrome, losing an eye or both, amputations and paralysis as getting stronger.
    Psychologically stressed people who suffer with issues that require therapy is not what I call good.
    It is relative. Suffering may be good for someone who successfully struggles to be free of poverty or of a repressive government (psst, like ours fueled by socialism lite).
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 8 months ago
    Miy old drill instructor and the cadre at jump school and several other places you never want to go for a fun vacation put it this way.

    I hate to hurt yiou people but if I don't hurt you I don't help you.

    The Seals famous motto., The only easy day was yesterday.

    The Marine Corp came up with this one. "I don't need training in how to suffer. I already know how to suffer. I went through Paris Island." To which the Gunny replied. "You haven't learned the meaning of the word yet much less how to spell it.

    Seems like the last word is always drop and give me a hundred.

    But I found it the ultimate is when you get a bit older try to chop some firewood or whatever and wake up the next morning with nothing work, in total pain and can't articulate "I'm not 18 anymore!"

    That's sufferingl.
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    • Posted by $ TomB666 8 years, 8 months ago
      So one morning a woman wakes up and says "Good Morning" to her husband. He replies"I'm Dead." She says "What?" and he repeats that he is dead.

      Stunned she says "you can't be dead, you're talking to me now." He explains that while he seems to be awake and talking, he must be dead because nothing hurts.

      Everyone here over 60 probably knows what I mean ;-)
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    • Posted by term2 8 years, 8 months ago
      hmm. my mother must have read this. She used to tell me that her treatment of me sometimes hurt HER more than ME. That was BS. Maybe it cleansed her soul. It didnt do any good for mine.
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  • Posted by robgambrill 8 years, 8 months ago
    They say "privation is good for the soul".

    After 7 years of the current administration's never-ending recession, my "soul" should be pretty golden by now! :)
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  • Posted by johnpe1 8 years, 8 months ago
    many objectivists suffer as the world defeats reason
    and good sense, so I guess it's good to maintain
    your integrity against the odds and suffer some. -- j
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  • Posted by jimjamesjames 8 years, 8 months ago
    "Suffering" is good IF it is a motivator.

    For those who wallow in it for some irrational reason (lack of reason), it's evidence of pathopsychology, probably due to the secondary gain they get from others.
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  • Posted by $ puzzlelady 8 years, 8 months ago
    Rubbish. Should we all become masochists?

    The religious are brainwashed to believe suffering (to make up for Jesus' suffering, allegedly to save humanity) earns them bonus points in heaven. Muslims like-wise, for the martyrdom of their prophets, flagellate themselves with chains till their backs bleed out of love for Allah. Sickos all.

    Pain is the body's signal that something is wrong and needs fixing, thus inspiring all the research that helps humanity to overcome problems and to develop all the science and technology we have gained. That struggle is not the same as suffering; it is the height of achievement, a source of joy in goal fulfillment and elimination of suffering.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 8 years, 8 months ago
    How many of our beloved AS "villains" stated that hardship (I forget the actual word) is good for mankind. Something about the "beauty of the handloom" and "getting back to the earth".

    I can't quote the exact phrases, but these folks sound like Dr. Ferris and the rest of them...
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 8 months ago
    "All this chaos is an indication that our souls are trying to awaken from the confines of our egos."

    I would disagree with this statement as causation of a world of chaos...but what I found interesting,was his description of our true identity (soul)(our mind) trying to escape the ego-which is a brain made up identity.
    Although in a personal sense, I would use the word inner- conflict.

    The Sociological chaos we are experiencing in the world is created by those without a mind. Climate chaos is a cycle.

    I would agree that strife, complexities and, Ok, suffering...can prod one into insights one might never have achieved.
    I don't think I'd describe the process as good, one would prefer the experience be a pleasant one.
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