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Posted by 9286cinder 10 years, 6 months ago to The Gulch: General
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Two things. I had to read the book again after really having the desire to "shrug" at work, working with stupid people that have no desire to put any effort forward, nor do they care what the consequences are. But when you try to do your job (I am an RN), and try not to let these looters get away with being lazy, I am accused of being a bully. Frustrating, and it made me realize how bad I want to read the book again.

Second, in light of that, sharing my frustrations with an equally frustrated heavily liberal coworker, she said she really wanted to read the book. My dog ate my first copy while I was reading it again so I could only get to page 103. She isn't as far into it but she loves the book. It makes me so excited that she likes it. Just maybe I'll convert her one of these days. Thanks for listening.


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  • Posted by $ winterwind 10 years, 6 months ago
    My newest "get people to read the book" ploy is to tell them to buy it, read it, give them my name & phone number and promise to refund the money they paid for the book if they thought it was a waste of their time.
    So far, I have 2 "buyers", and a couple of high school students who said "Reading a book is never a waste of time." wheeee!
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 10 years, 6 months ago
    Better to get one of the liberals thinking, if only for a moment, than to lose one of the enlightened to the dark side. Your friend may come to reason at slow paces, some time forward.
    Recently, the head of the local Tea Party, said he voted for the school levy, because the superintendent (liberal) told him he would take out any part of Common Core to which people objected. I know this administrator, he loves new liberal ideas, Common Core is a done deal.How did the head of the Tea Party become so naive? They did threaten his business some years back when he did not support a levy, so he should know who these mean liberals are.
    Send your dog to the Dog Whisperer, then load AS on your PC, where he can only chew your cords, and little more.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 6 months ago
    I think that a lot of 'liberals' drift into that label (conservatives too, actually) through inertia. Perhaps reading in AS of another way to view the world, will give your friend a context for a different label - or, better yet, for inventing her own label.

    A libertarian friend of mine opines that much/most of the US is libertarian, but is afraid of the label and wants to stick with the psychological comfort of 'what they are supposed to call themselves'. I do not know that he is correct, but I do think that the 'surface tension' of relabeling oneself is a concern.

    Thanks for giving your friend a copy of the book. Your dog is also a good reader too, evidently - ate it right up. (The major reason I worked graveyard shift when I was a bench tech in various hospitals was that it was a solo shift (or maybe I had a phleb). I could do my work, and do it well, and not have to deal with the pettiness of the coffee-clatch crowd who thought that social jockeying was more important than ability.)

    Jan
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  • Posted by RonC 10 years, 6 months ago
    The beauty of the Galt's gulch is freedom. There are all sorts of people in the gulch. Tinkers, tinners, cobblers, carpenters, big business, small contractors...people from all walks. While Rand doesn't explore this, there is only so much you can do with a book, they seem happy and homogeneous. The millionaire inventor respects the handy man because he knows with enough effort the handy man will be just fine. I get the vibe from the book the gulch is a smart place to live. There are no dummies there. It is populated by people that will not except nor expect something for nothing. It is nothing like the hospital or the post office where I once hid from life.

    One of the observed traits of liberals is the comparison between symbolism and substance. Look at the girl in the office that decides to help the planet by forcing everyone to use the recycle bin in the copy room. By force I mean she lobbies the boss until a notice comes down that we are now recycling scrap paper. Everything goes well. All of the sheople are sorting and putting their recyclables in the bin. All of the liberals in the office "feel" great about what they are doing, they are making a difference! Question, who empties the bin when it's full? In the situation I have observed the janitor empties the bin, because taking out the trash is "beneath" the staff. Where does the janitor put the recycled paper? In the dumpster...IT'S TRASH! That's OK. the bin is empty, the libs feel great because they did something to save the planet, and for the janitor it all pays the same.

    My point in this true story is the heart and mind of a liberal. They may enjoy the read. Then may even accept a fictional place where there are no food stamps or entitlements. Progressive are very versatile at the theoretical. When it comes to living a life without using guilt or force to cause the world to champion the liberal causes, that is a hard change to make. They live to "help" people.
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    • Posted by Bobhummel 10 years, 6 months ago
      RonC,
      Great example you gave.
      The Statist Progressive Liberals are always pursuing symbolism over substance. Because it is easy and it gives them such a feeling of moral superiority by their imposition of guilt and moral outrage if you don't agree with them. It is for the children. We are saving the planet. It is not fair that you have so much and others have so little. One becomes the apostate to great social order of the "enlightened" ruling proletariat.
      I would say that Progressives are very versatile at MANIPULATING the theoretical. Even the theoretical has laws. The progs ignore them or change the definitions of words to make the laws work in their corrupted Weldtanschauung.
      Cheers
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    • Posted by johnpe1 10 years, 6 months ago
      RonC, we here are "religious" recyclers and very conservative tree-farmers ... with a 30 inch diameter white oak (or 3) in the front yard. we have yet to meet a liberal tree farmer. it seems that liberals tend to skim the surface of life, avoiding digging in to real responsibility. "here, we'll tell you how to live, knave!" they often try to practice one-on-one fascism. -- j
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  • Posted by flanap 10 years, 6 months ago
    A heavy liberal who is frustrated that others are not pulling their weight? A kingdom divided....well, you know what happens.
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    • Posted by $ johnrobert2 10 years, 6 months ago
      Has to be a working stiff and not an elitist who knows what's best for the rest of us. It's funny how dedicated liberals suddenly wake up when they realize they are also being mulcted of hard earned gelt to subsidize drones.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 6 months ago
    My cousin is a nurse. I call her the Nasty Nurse From New England. We are close friends, even though she is apparently, a died-in-the-wool liberal. However, she has sent me emails expressing what you purport almost word-for-word. At heart she is a conservative, but her husband, her friends and her entire social life is swallowed up in the liberal cesspool. She had the courage to quit nursing and retire, but not enough courage to escape the influence of her surroundings.
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