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Veteran beaten to death in routine traffic stop for missing front license plate

Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years, 8 months ago to Video
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This is another example of cops wielding too much power, and acting with a pack mentality. Who is hiring these people who clearly cannot be trusted with the power they've been given.

The video is interesting because the woman filming is narrating and reacting to what is taking place on the street in front of her. This is a travesty.
SOURCE URL: http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/05/cops-beat-veteran-tommy-yancy-to-death-after-traffic-stop-for-no-front-license-plate/


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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 10 years, 8 months ago
    "Who is hiring these people..." Your President and Commander-in-Chief Barrack Obama. Remember BO calling for a national police force as strong as the military? http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/art...
    Its here and we may expect to see growing numbers of these kind of incidents.
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    • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 8 months ago
      sigh...

      I
      HAVE
      NO
      PRESIDENT.

      Article 2, section 1, clause 5 (how many times do I have to teach this?)

      The President must be a "natural born citizen". The Founding Fathers did not use flowery language in the Constitution for its own sake. To them, there were different classes or types of citizenship. Among these would be "Natural born", "Native born", "Naturalized" and "Non."

      They do NOT mean the same thing, and for a reason.

      A native born citizen is one who is born in the U.S. an example of a native born citizen is Barack Obama.

      A naturalized citizen is one who goes through a legal process to be declared a citizen. An example of this would be Arnold Schwarzenegger.

      A non citizen is someone who is not,in any way, a citizen. An example of this can be found on most any construction site or in the parking lot of your local Home Depot...

      But a "natural born citizen" is someone who is born a citizen to citizen parents. The parents can be naturalized, but they must be citizens at the time of the child's birth.

      The reasoning behind this stems from the nature of the ruling class, the aristocracy, of Europe. King George III, the monarch from whom we wished independence, was the first British monarch of his name to speak English as his first tongue. His predecessors spoke German first, being the heads of the Hanover Dynasty.

      A little over a century after the War of Independence, Queen Victoria's grandson took his rightful place of rule; he was Kaiser Wilhelm, of Germany.

      The aristocracy of Europe was inbred for a millennium at least by the time of the War of Independence, and quite often the decisions of European monarchs was based more on their relationships and interactions with other European monarchs than on the needs and desires of their own citizenry.

      The Founding Fathers hoped to protect us from that kind of thing by requiring the commander in chief to have no divided loyalties. To be, in the 2nd generation, American. Only.

      ::deep breath::
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  • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 10 years, 8 months ago
    All that for a front license plate which is a fixit ticket. I want the whole story. Why, unless he had a warrants would he resist arrest? Why would he be arrested for a missing front plate? Why all the cop cars for a routine traffic stop? Why?
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    • Posted by 10 years, 8 months ago
      The really interesting thing is he was being treated for PTSD. What if those cops caused him to basically shut down to all that was really in front of him, and cause him to think he was in a potential combat situation? This is a terrible thing. And entirely unnecessary...
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      • Posted by khalling 10 years, 8 months ago
        I don't know, but the gene to submit is not in me. cops handcuffing me would be agitating and I would fight back unless someone was there to calm me. You can be arrested for talking back and saying no in some states. that's why the cops ratchet it up. they will not let you think they do not have full authority. so sad for his family-all that time in harm's way only to be killed by government employees in your own country you served. Those cops should be charged with murder
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        • Posted by johnpe1 10 years, 8 months ago
          K, when I was in the military, I was told -- seriously -- that a military person is not considered competent within 1 minute of being awakened,,,, Thus, a soldier can commit murder during that minute, and it's not their fault. Now, like N-M-A says above, this incident may well have caused a PTSD response like being suddenly awakened. And the civilian response was summary execution. Travesty. -- j
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 10 years, 8 months ago
    This is becoming more common.

    Those who aren't familiar with the Kelly Thomas case should look it up. It is probably the most brutal example of this kind of thing. It was a total snuff job that happened to be filmed without the cops knowing it. Then, the officers all got off. I've never even known of anything quite like that story. And, I think it is a good example of what can happen to any of us.
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  • Posted by iam124c 10 years, 8 months ago
    In reference to my statement about more innocent Americans being killed by police than are being killed in military action, Khaling asked if I had some source to cite. I looked at several sources and did the arithmetic. I looked on Wikipedia for one. I don't recall the others, because I did these before I made my comments here in the gulch. If y'all are interested the numbers can be found fairly easily.
    I didn't give specific numbers, although I did find 'em--I was not sure of the source. Start with Wikipedia.
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  • Posted by iam124c 10 years, 8 months ago
    It is hard for me to remain calm after reading something like what was posted by "non-mooch"er. So give me a little slack here.

    The reason? The following experience. In Norther Texas during a bodacious blizzard my son (14 yrs. at the time) and I were stopped at a road block by a state trooper wearing cold weather gear that wasn't up to the task of keeping him protected from the blowing snow and freezing temperatures. He was re-directing traffic to another route. I told my son what a great job this guy was enduring under really bad conditions. I then proceeded on our way as directed by the cop. After just a few minutes I say a red light blinking in my rear view mirror. I was driving about 30 miles per hour, and there was nowhere to pull over that wasn't ice, so I slowed more and did not stop. I told my son that there must be a bad wreck somewhere down the road--the cop car was coming on really fast. He threw his cruiser in front of my car; I was sure I was going to crash into him, but I managed to stop within maybe an inch or two of his car.

    To make this account shorter let me just say that the reason for this chase was that I had miss-understood the cops directions, and was driving on the closed road.

    As the cop charged up to my car, I started to roll down my window. In a crouched position, with his hand on his side-arm he SCREAMED "GET OUT OF THE CAR," repeating the same over and over. I got out of the car. He grabbed my right arm and threw me stomach first against he car; frisked me, etc., all the while screaming (I don't remember what). When I finally understood what he was scream-saying, I tried to explain my action(s). He demanded my drivers license. I had the good sense to had him both my license and my military I.D. card. As soon as he saw my I.D. card he calmed down some.

    Now, consider this fact. These days many more completely innocent Americans are killed by cops than there are American Military people killed in combat!

    Never mind my humiliation. (Consider non-mooch's link) What might have happened to my son???!!!??

    My God, what have we come to?!? And, what are we going to do about it???


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    • Posted by khalling 10 years, 8 months ago
      iam-do you have a cite for "more innocent Americans are killed by cops than there are American Military killed in combat?"
      Did you lodge a complaint? Did he remove the cuffs? were you hauled to jail? how traumatic for both you and your son. My grown children will tell you, they are more nervous about policemen then they are about crime in their neighborhood. what does that tell us?
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 8 months ago
    Something else, clearly, was going on other than merely a missing front license plate. Whether it was the driver or the cops that sparked this escalation is not evident from the video. But, police officers should be trained in how to de-escalate, and since there are several officers in attendance, someone should have had the stones to bring this situation back to reasonableness. The fact that nobody did for too long, indicates that these officers need remedial training or to be removed from their positions as incapable.
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    • Posted by khalling 10 years, 8 months ago
      I have a good friend who was a sergent for the seattle police force. She said there have been lots of changes in police officer training-including the de-sensitization of recruits to the population. They work hard to promote de-humanizing training. Part of teh additional training is for female officers especially. Because there are fewer female officers, often it becomes one of your main jobs to frisk and perform body cavity searches on female detainees. They have found women tend to hesitate or balk at performing the searches, so they train to de-humanize the procedure. It's anecdotal-but that's what she told me
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      • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 8 months ago
        That and our whole society has disengaged from one another. This started happening with TV, but has accelerated with computer games and FB, twitter, etc.
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  • Posted by strugatsky 10 years, 8 months ago
    The Soviet Union had NKVD and KGB, the Nazi's had Gestapo, the Banana Republics have their thugs and murder squads, the US has it's "Law Enforcement Officers"...
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  • Posted by redoty09 10 years, 8 months ago
    If that was happening in front of my house I just might have to go out with a baseball bat and beat the hell out of the cop!!! Of course I would also take my 40 cal Glock with me as well in case the cop pulled his weapon! Temporary insanity that is what would overcome me seeing that going on!
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years, 8 months ago
    Hello NMA,
    Another example of thugs with badges... some join the force to serve and protect... some to have their way.
    Just more abuse of power. They know they will not be held accountable...
    "Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely." Lord Acton
    Regards,
    O.A.
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    • Posted by 10 years, 8 months ago
      It's a testament to the mentality of the country at large that this is allowed to happen. I cannot imagine this occurring 25-30 years ago. People would have jumped in, but more likely, it wouldn't have happened in the first place. It's an accountability problem, with the perpetrators using excuses to somehow legitimize their actions. It's a twisted culture of blame shifting.
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      • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 8 months ago
        Oh, sure you could. You don't remember seeing black people beaten, hosed down, attacked by police dogs in the 60's? I do, and I was just a little kid. I'm not saying this was racially motivated, but we cannot ignore that such has happened throughout our nations history.
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    • Posted by strugatsky 10 years, 8 months ago
      "... some join the force to serve and protect" -- that, I believe, is the crap that the regime has been indoctrinating into us since grade school. Does anyone actually know a cop who has joined the force to serve and protect? (in this century, that is).
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      • Posted by strugatsky 10 years, 8 months ago
        Of course there are decent people in the US police force. No doubt that there were a few decent KGB and Nazis as well. The problem is that the current US police system is set up not to help the citizen, but to help the State. In the view of the State, and the State's police force, there is no greater crime than one against the State. Any challenge to the State authority and, by extension, the police authority, is viewed as a capital crime. The police are not trained or expected to establish justice; they are trained to establish control. Furthermore, almost any action by a cop is supported and covered up the State. It would be difficult for any good and decent person, under such circumstances, to remain good and decent. With almost unlimited power, and certainly with the power of life or death, surrounded by a culture of power, the results are the militarization of a formerly law enforcement profession. The step into KGB or Gestapo is getting smaller and smaller.
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  • Posted by Notperfect 10 years, 7 months ago
    So California keeps giving more than it receives. Never changes there and until the folks out there decide they have had enough it never will. The day will come I hope they are watching over their shoulders. C.H.P. Can Hurt People!
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  • Posted by ksaldutti 10 years, 8 months ago
    The US AND THEM SOCIETY is upon us and thug pig police have become epidemic. FIGHT BACK HARD! Defund the pigs. They are a national gang of thugs with a license to beat strip search and kill.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 8 months ago
    I propose a mass protest on the part of Oklahomans. Thousands of us should drive our vehicles to California.

    The cops around here would die of exhaustion, trying to beat everyone who doesn't have a front license plate.

    We don't have front license plates...
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  • Posted by wiggys 10 years, 8 months ago
    driving a car without a front lic. plate is a ticket-able offence IF the police officer decides to issue it. I know because I was stopped and just told to put in on, hence no ticket. this is a situation that we all have to be concerned about, and this is the police officer (s) administering the law as they see fit. I believe there is more and more police acting in this manner. this is the way of our world now.
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    • Posted by redoty09 10 years, 8 months ago
      Some states do not have a front plate, Kansas is one of them. Also in New York City, most people do not know this, but you cannot turn right at a traffic light when it is red, that is illegal in NYC but there are no signs at the intersection telling you not to, you are just expected to know it.
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      • Posted by 10 years, 8 months ago
        I've always thought that is just asinine. How is someone to know that, if they don't live there? Tourists must be generating a lot of income for the city.
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        • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 8 months ago
          Correct. And what about states that don't have right turn on red, but your home state does? Or what about left turn on red (one way to one way)? A few states allow, but many do not.

          I'm not advocating universal laws, but training and commonsense application of reason by law enforcement. If a cop in a non-left turn on red observes this action they should properly pull over the car. If they observe that the license plate is from a different state, or that the drivers license of the driver is from a different state, then they should inform them of that state's law on such and let them go.

          However, we've done such a job of hamstringing cops and judges that there is little discretion permitted anymore. Granted this is because they used discretion inappropriately in the past and it was thought that removing the discretion would be better - but now we get kids suspended from school for biting a pop-tart into the shape of a gun.
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