As is the case in another thread here that deals with the prospect of government forcibly implanting people's bodies with surveillance electronics, the only solution to this problem is the massive Mother Of All Tall Orders: Effecting a sea change in the intellectual makeup of the vast majority of the people within society.

What we're seeing in government today is the culmination of decades of "education," and the corrupted content of that "education" is the culmination of corrupted philosophy, something Rand hammered away at decades ago, to largely deaf ears.

We cannot put the toothpaste back in the tube (I don't believe in genies, except for Barbara Eden,) so the idea of somehow neutralizing the technology is pointless - the best you can hope for on that tack is a kind of endless technological arms race.

So for practical, nuts-and-bolts action, the first thing we need to do is rattle our elected officious' cages, hard, with a radical but essential demand:

A complete separation of education and state.
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big deal so the "government" collects billions of bits of information. are they also collecting information on all of the their buddys living in dc? then that will possibly keep them all "honest" fat chance. how about all of the people who work in the nsa, won't they also be scrutinized? should be. the people you really have to worry about are those who are charged with administering the system. from the one who supposedly spots a potential problem to those charged with knocking on your door. all of the wonderful benefits of our technology are not being used to their best advantage but to give advantage to the scum of the earth, some of you call looters which they are.

The evil is in the determination of what constitutes a crime and that is decided by the threat felt by who is is in power...
Thomas Jefferson — 'When the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty.'

Sounds like the Tom Cruise movie where your future guilt for a crime was predicted, and acted on in advance. Are they seeking to go after people for thought crimes or actual planning of physical crimes. That is the kicker, it all depends who is running the ship. We may all end up in those gulags Jesse Ventura reported on. Maybe that is our Gulch, since we will all be there.

Well, while it goes without saying I do not support any government spying for any reason; I would argue against this just on the accuracy and reliability of these 'predictions.' Shit, they haven't hardly figured out how to reliably predict the weather, now they are going to predict crime?? I think this will result in a massive hemorrhage of resources; as people will be getting visits from agents for happening to have the wrong combo of search terms, or some sort of other undefined "suspicious behavior."
How many wasted interrogations like the following will happen, drawing more time and energy away from actual police work?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...
No doubt, it will cause more harm than good.

do not expect the dems or rebs will ever get together to do anything for we the people. they are birds of a feather.
getting the nation back is a pipe dream.

sorry to sound so negative but I do not think the country can be saved based on how things are going.

I'm just fine with law enforcement analyzing data. What I think should be limited is how that data is collected, and what they can do to someone based on the analysis.

I feel like shouting I told you so from the rooftops, but what good would that do? We are already beyond avoiding the problem, now we need to stop fighting about why it has happened and get together on a solution, Reps & Dems alike. We the People like and demand our freedom.

We were all promised "Hope and Change"...

I guess this is the change all those saps who bought into it deserve... Sure hope we can get our nation back!

PS- just think about the tsa employees.

I agree on the quality of CA:TWS, but I would have said that the main theme was 'the choice between freedom and security', with a side theme of 'the value of friendship'.

I think that the predictive ability of Internet mining operations can be effectively combated technologically (as long as you do not trustingly ask the government to advise). The battle for men's minds is going to be more difficult than that.

Jan

*spoiler alert* That was the main theme behind Captain America The Winter Soldier (which was excellent by the way). The software predicted who'd be a problem for Hydra and the weaponry would target them and au revoir

I have good men clients combating this...who do you think will win? :)