Nathan Hale, American martyr and hero: "I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country."
King James bible, John 15:13: "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."
Suicide bombers are martyrs and heroes in their own eyes and in the eyes of their compatriots. They are willing to give their lives in the defense of their highest value -- their country and its people. Telling them there are no virgins waiting for them would be useless.
Sending our troops abroad into harm's way is cowardly. Our war mongers use them as sacrificial offerings while sitting in the comfort of their offices and conference rooms. Attacking innocents with drones is just a video game to them. But as a wise man said, "The only way to win is not to play."
Stop all wars now. Otherwise you will never see an end to suicide volunteers.
As for The Blaze, it is a rabid pro-Christian rag. Always read their material with propaganda radar on full alert.
Your premise that the motivation of jihadists is patriotism is flawed. If this were the case Shiites and Sunnies would not be killing each other. Their belief is based on a theocracy which is antithetical to pacifism. You may chose to drink the Kool-Aide but this will not stop their agenda. This started in 600 AD and will continue without resolution. You may chose to wear a burka but I do not wish this for my daughter. Women have fought long and hard in Western countries to achieve equal status with men. I doubt most would be willing to regress. The notion of peaceful coexistence is fantasy land. Conservatives tend to be the ones that connect the dots in reality and liberals tend to be the ones that live in an idealized abstract fantasy world. Yes, war is hell with unintended consequences and yes beware of the military industrial complex. But sometimes it is necessary to protect ourselves which requires military intervention. The stronger the military the less likely we will be attacked. I lived through the cold war and my father was a Navy pilot trained to deliver nuclear bombs. Thank God it never happened. The Russians knew they would be wiped off the planet if they started a war. Today we are perceived as weak. Political correctness has put us in a very vulnerable position. My motto: "buy more ammo."
Ben_C, I think your response to puzzlelady (which seems to assume that she is a proponent of Islam) is not the interpretation I have of her post. I think that puzzlelady is correct that the people who become suicide bombers are heroes in their own minds (aside from a few who were coerced). They do succeed in inspiring the next 'patriot' to give his precious life for the unworthy cause of murdering innocent people...but their friends think of them as heroes.
I am not a pacifist, and don't agree with puzzlelady on that part of her comment, but the 'patriotism' of fighting against different sects of the same religion is abundant: The Catholic Albigensian Crusade, the wars between the various Protestant religions and between Catholic and Protestants in the 17th century are non-Islamic examples. In all cases, 'politics' and economics were mixed with religion in the agendas of the generals and heads of state who lead those wars. Shiites and Sunnis are part of this general trend of humans wanting their way to be right at all cost.
Kurds are Sunni. Some of the Arabs Are Sunni they are called ISIS Jihadists Kurds are called "We want our country back. The Brits stole it after WWI and the Turks before that."
Very sad for all the innocents killed and injured but I don't miss any of the bombers. Damn, they have to be very close to running out of virgins by now!
i thought it more interesting than the interest shown. Maybe too many topics and people who don't go search out the new stuff or don't know you can find tha under New And Hot or by clicking a members name and see what they have done in the past or by going through the categories. .
This is the type of terrorism that is at a tangent from the main and successful hand book of terrorism. This one eliminates the problem of getting caught and maximized the body count as the 'real target. What it means is a problem in preparing for or defending against.
The second eliminated problem is that of communicating directly with and equipping the attackers. All done by internet blogs designed to incite to violence. Even the 'masterminds' have no clue where their humanoid creations will strike. The US Government made sure the wherewithal is readily available by declassifying the various devices and formulas.
A World War II era design works just as well as a super technoid production and the parts are far easier to obtain. Thanks to one of our former Presidents. Even today one can find the website and download within seconds from any computer using any phony name. No I'll not give it up here.....but only a half wit couldn't gain the knowledge within the hour. That means it's truly randomn and truly targeting groups, masses of humans indiscriminately.
Oceans, the military, technical devices will stop what has come out of Pandora's box. Just dumb luck and the penchant for the assailants to hide within very large groups of people. City folk are 'ucked. but country folk are not completely safe. It's all percentages.
What isn't percentages is the reaction of home grown terrorists.
For sure the government will seize on any incident, make it a crisis and use it ....to clamp down on citizens. What are they doing FOR you. Limiting your ability by carefully making sure profiling is not allowed and other useful tools which require something called probable cause while they can subject you to instant arrest without reason under the suspicion of enabling terrorism rules of Obama.
Sleep well tonight...as the old poster used to proclaim - your national Department of Internal Security is .....well protected. So is their boss. Are you?
So on the one hand we cannot profile, restrict or even examine Muslim immigrants for their intent, but because guns are used in crimes by an equally tiny percentage of legal gun owners, the rest of the owners are examined, profiled and otherwise restricted. Yep. Makes perfect sense.
Of a billion people take 10%. Of that choose the lowest intellect or least educated, a number still in the millions. Convince them that They will live in paradise if they die doing as told by their Imam or leader. Have them learn the Que-ran by heart to justify whatever they are taught. So, why are you surprised?
During the first term of Barack Hussein Obama when I was yet prone to immediately change the channel at the sheer sight of him, I watched Barack Hussein Obama speak to a room packed with college-aged Asian Indian students. I assumed they all had Hindu backgrounds but I could be wrong. Anyway, I will never forget the first words that came through the infamous moving lips of Barack Hussein Obama~ "Islam: the religion of peace." I did not catch the words that came next. I was too busy laughing my head off at Barack Hussein Obama.
I no longer listen to politicians. They have agendas that benefit THEM, not me.
I am so done with islam and muslims. So long as a person believes in the islamic religion, I will conclude that they have no issue with the intolerance and violence that is inherent in it. Therefore, why would I want to have ANYTHING to do with them? At this point, I stay away from muslims, wouldnt hire them or trade with them knowingly. Politically incorrect, but I really dont care about that.
What you're doing would be impossible where I live ( St Thomas, VI ). Every grocery store on the island is owned by muslims. And almost every furniture store. The only way to avoid trading with them would be to import your own food - which would be very expensive - and impossible for certain items.
What you say is very scary. Its a terrible religion to believe in from what I understand. Makes one want to move OUT of there before they take over and establish their Sharia (sp) law. I live in Las Vegas now, which would be the devil's lair for a muslim so I dont see too many of them
King James bible, John 15:13: "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."
Suicide bombers are martyrs and heroes in their own eyes and in the eyes of their compatriots. They are willing to give their lives in the defense of their highest value -- their country and its people. Telling them there are no virgins waiting for them would be useless.
Sending our troops abroad into harm's way is cowardly. Our war mongers use them as sacrificial offerings while sitting in the comfort of their offices and conference rooms. Attacking innocents with drones is just a video game to them. But as a wise man said, "The only way to win is not to play."
Stop all wars now. Otherwise you will never see an end to suicide volunteers.
As for The Blaze, it is a rabid pro-Christian rag. Always read their material with propaganda radar on full alert.
Conservatives tend to be the ones that connect the dots in reality and liberals tend to be the ones that live in an idealized abstract fantasy world.
Yes, war is hell with unintended consequences and yes beware of the military industrial complex. But sometimes it is necessary to protect ourselves which requires military intervention. The stronger the military the less likely we will be attacked. I lived through the cold war and my father was a Navy pilot trained to deliver nuclear bombs. Thank God it never happened. The Russians knew they would be wiped off the planet if they started a war. Today we are perceived as weak. Political correctness has put us in a very vulnerable position.
My motto: "buy more ammo."
I am not a pacifist, and don't agree with puzzlelady on that part of her comment, but the 'patriotism' of fighting against different sects of the same religion is abundant: The Catholic Albigensian Crusade, the wars between the various Protestant religions and between Catholic and Protestants in the 17th century are non-Islamic examples. In all cases, 'politics' and economics were mixed with religion in the agendas of the generals and heads of state who lead those wars. Shiites and Sunnis are part of this general trend of humans wanting their way to be right at all cost.
Jan
Targets of opportunity abound!
Barrack Obama, 2015
That ought to make it 100%, the real faithful!
about now -- I just paid a huge visa bill....... -- j
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The second eliminated problem is that of communicating directly with and equipping the attackers. All done by internet blogs designed to incite to violence. Even the 'masterminds' have no clue where their humanoid creations will strike. The US Government made sure the wherewithal is readily available by declassifying the various devices and formulas.
A World War II era design works just as well as a super technoid production and the parts are far easier to obtain. Thanks to one of our former Presidents. Even today one can find the website and download within seconds from any computer using any phony name. No I'll not give it up here.....but only a half wit couldn't gain the knowledge within the hour. That means it's truly randomn and truly targeting groups, masses of humans indiscriminately.
Oceans, the military, technical devices will stop what has come out of Pandora's box. Just dumb luck and the penchant for the assailants to hide within very large groups of people. City folk are 'ucked. but country folk are not completely safe. It's all percentages.
What isn't percentages is the reaction of home grown terrorists.
For sure the government will seize on any incident, make it a crisis and use it ....to clamp down on citizens. What are they doing FOR you. Limiting your ability by carefully making sure profiling is not allowed and other useful tools which require something called probable cause while they can subject you to instant arrest without reason under the suspicion of enabling terrorism rules of Obama.
Sleep well tonight...as the old poster used to proclaim - your national Department of Internal Security is .....well protected. So is their boss. Are you?
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Now, now, you know that's just profiling! Islam is the religion of peace!
(sarcasm font off)
Religion of Peace? You're either an apologist/co-conspirator or a complete moron to believe that.
So, why are you surprised?
I assumed they all had Hindu backgrounds but I could be wrong.
Anyway, I will never forget the first words that came through the infamous moving lips of Barack Hussein Obama~
"Islam: the religion of peace."
I did not catch the words that came next.
I was too busy laughing my head off at Barack Hussein Obama.
I am so done with islam and muslims. So long as a person believes in the islamic religion, I will conclude that they have no issue with the intolerance and violence that is inherent in it. Therefore, why would I want to have ANYTHING to do with them? At this point, I stay away from muslims, wouldnt hire them or trade with them knowingly. Politically incorrect, but I really dont care about that.