Home remedies

Posted by richrobinson 8 years, 11 months ago to The Gulch: General
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My father is 74 years young and this morning he was reminiscing about his childhood. He said he was always careful when playing at his grandmothers house. The reason---if he fell and got a cut she would rub the white part of chicken poop on the cut. She saved it in a jar for just such an occasion. I'm guessing it helped it heal faster. His family had a farm and had to make due the best they could. I doubt this treatment would be sanctioned by ObamaCare and she would probably be charged with child abuse by lefty do-gooders. Anyone else have any strange home remedies?


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  • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 11 months ago
    Firstly (as I commented directly to Suzanne above), do not put "x+dirt" on any wound. This is bad. Example of 'bad' if you scroll down here: http://www.emedicinehealth.com/sporot...

    There is a book I can recommend: When There Is No Doctor". A lot of it is oriented towards sanitation in remote Mexican villages, but there is tons of good medical advice for DIY medicine. I would suggest this book for anyone who has a BugOut kit.
    http://www.amazon.com/Where-There-Is-...

    TLDNR:
    Many of the 'modern' cures for disease are applicable to a true Paleolithic technology - they require no more than the ability to boil water and dig latrines and avoidance behavior patterns that actively increase the chance of crippling or fatal disorders.

    Chief amongst these behavior patterns to avoid is the 'rub it with dirt' custom that is still prevalent in our (and many modern) societies. Coaches will TELL their player to rub dirt into an abrasion! This is beyond boggling my mind: We have know for centuries that dirt contains opportunistic bacteria and fungi and that rubbing dirt into a wound is the thing you should Never Do. Yet people still think that dirt or chicken poop is a 'good home remedy'.

    Those of you who followed my first link, above, to the picture of Sporotrichosis can see an example of what can result. Do you know that there are many fungal diseases for which there is no treatment except amputation of the limb? Do you know that there are some fungal diseases for which there is no treatment whatsoever? - all observed instances of these diseases have been fatal.

    It is very easy to find home and herbal remedies for everything from cholera to poison oak. These remedies should be applied with thoughtfulness and with a basic knowledge of bacteriology and disease process. You do NOT have to be a doctor in order to apply remedies that take nothing more than a shovel or a pot of hot water or the ability to identify a willow tree, but you must avoid behavior that makes things worse.

    First, do ye no harm.

    Jan
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    • Posted by johnpe1 8 years, 11 months ago
      it's a good thing that the observers of these 100-percent-fatal fungus
      infections didn't "catch" it -- communicable by touch only? -- j
      .
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      • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 11 months ago
        You are correct. Talk about bio-terrorist potential...
        But these fungi are uncommon and generally they are caught by the bad luck of someone puncturing himself with a dirty thorn or some such. It is still scary to read a paragraph that says something like, "We are not certain what anti-fungal to recommend in case of this diagnosis; the fatality rate for this diagnosis is 100%."

        Brrrrrr.

        Jan
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    • Posted by ChestyPuller 8 years, 11 months ago
      Jan, I commend you for your thoroughness. My question is on your ending note "Primum facitis nihil mali passus est" (First, do ye no harm), if this is true of medical doctors how is it that many doctors murder babies (fetus) in the womb? Yes english for Fetus is Baby, some translators try to replace this now with 'offspring', but put offspring in to translate to latin and you get 'semen' so it is not a correct translation 'baby' is correct.

      Could you please answer to all that if a Doctor takes the 'Hippocratic Oath' of 'First, do ye no harm' how is it they are not stripped of their credentials for causing harm to the child?

      If it is because it is legal...then the Nazi's in the 1930's & 40's murdering the sick and disabled as well as the jewish people didn't do wrong either...it was legal under their laws. Is that really a defense?
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      • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 11 months ago
        Thank you for your praise.

        The first thing you will be amused to learn is that all of the ancient copies of the Hippocratic oath are missing that particular (do ye no harm) clause. If you look up translations (I do not speak/read Greek) you will find that most of it is concerned with promising to teach other doctor's sons for free! It also promises not to do surgeries or abortions or euthanasia.

        Most medical schools do not require the Hippocratic oath - of any era - to be taken by doctors. So, many doctors have never taken it.

        As usual, behavior is a personal choice on the part of the individual, be he doctor or not.

        Jan
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  • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 8 years, 11 months ago
    It's very dry where I live and I get little splits, cuts and cracks in my fingers, especially when I play my guitar a lot. I use Super Glue to seal the cracks. The pain instantly goes away and it stays on until the cut heals itself.
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    • Posted by strugatsky 8 years, 11 months ago
      My wife has been suffering from those types of cracks in her fingers for several years. Prescription medication helps a little, but does not cure it. Recently, we had a half hour swim in the Dead Sea and played with the mud there and a very sulfur rich (and stinky!) shower. That same night the cracks were completely healed!
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  • Posted by ChestyPuller 8 years, 11 months ago
    We used Homemade Chicken Soup [made with fowls] for cold's, Gargled with Pickle juice for sore throats, used Peppermint for upset stomachs and ground up charcoal for treatment of poison or bad food being eaten.

    Now that you stopped laughing; The medical research community finds that the fats and essential elements aminos and minerals in the 'Chicken Soup' actually works to defeat the common cold. The salts, vinegar and spices in the ‘Pickle Juice’ does kill the bacteria that causes the sore throat. Peppermint soothes the stomach and charcoal is still used in hospitals for ‘overdose’ patients, and illness brought on by bad food.

    I guess my Polish Grandparents where pretty smart after all.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 11 months ago
    Many home remedies actually work for reasons not obvious to the user, but if they fix the problem, we should go ahead and use them.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 8 years, 11 months ago
    We have a few little things we do for our immune systems here at home. I almost hate to say this...We haven't had a cold or flu for many years. We just don't get sick. I'll confess here that It's to the point of kind of freaking me out, actually. Everybody on our street, or most kids in the class with my kids may have flues/colds and we all just keep on trucking. We'll be the first to admit we're fortunate. But, it's starting to look like there's more to it than luck...
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    • Posted by 8 years, 11 months ago
      Something is working Abaco. Keep it up. The best cure is not to get sick.
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      • Posted by $ Abaco 8 years, 11 months ago
        Certainly. Not getting sick is...strange. It has saved us a lot of time and money, for sure. At my age I'm seeing friends struggling with cancer and that's very sobering. Cancer prevention requires a very strong immune system. If you are at all interested in this kind of stuff I highly recommend a new series called, "The Truth About Cancer". It is very good.

        Over the years we have collected a few different methods of illness prevention. One of them is even from the era of the black plague. This is what happens, though, when you read books instead of watch tv...haha!
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 11 months ago
    I know of several home contractors who carry Duck Tape on them at all times. I've seen them use it for everything from quick bandages across scrapes to impromptu stitches for major cuts. (Not sure if the individual ever went to the ER for real stitches or not.)

    Knew a doc once that for any cut or scrape didn't bother with antbiotics, he just made sure to use a bristle brush and common soap - vigorously - on the wound before covering with a bandage. His patients squirmed and yelled, but always healed quickly and without infection...
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  • Posted by strugatsky 8 years, 11 months ago
    A remedy for sunburn (not against sunburn, but after you've been burned): sour cream. Liberally applied to burned areas. Lessens the pain and sometimes prevents the skin from peeling off (depends on the severity, of course).
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  • Posted by saucerdesigner 8 years, 11 months ago
    I had never had a sinus infection in my life until I did a nasal wash using water from a local well without boiling the water first. I had used the well water, which I had filtered, for drinking, making coffee and cooking for several years with no problems but was just careless. In the span of a day or two my sinuses were inflamed, my face was puffy and hot and the infection had spread to the maxilla, or upper jaw and had involved my teeth. I refused to see the doctor for it because I knew I'd be prescribed or administered antibiotics. Judy thought she was going to have to take me to the ER.

    I had been using colloidal silver for years, mostly for stopping colds, sore throats and tooth aches and was confident it could handle the infection. I buy the best I can find which is MesoSilver, according to a report I found through an article on Dr. Joseph Mercola's website. Here's a link to the report:
    http://www.silver-colloids.com/Report...

    Here's a link to the protocol I used that cured this acute sinus infection:
    http://www.colloidsforlife.com/Sinus_...

    I also gargled with hydrogen peroxide and something called Triguard (no longer available) to knock down any pathogens in my mouth and throat and essential oil of clove for the resultant tooth pain.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 8 years, 11 months ago
    This is a true story and the folks involved still swear by it.

    It was around 1950 and a person I know was about 2 years old and was dying of whooping cough. High fever, congestion and all the other symptoms. After treating her for days the doctor finally said there was nothing else that could be done and she would not live through the night. Her great grandmother said there was an old recipe that could be tried, since it was a last resort. It was boiling fresh sheep dung in water for 1 hour and then filtering off a few tablespoons of liquid and feeding it to her in small doses every hour. Her father, desperate, agreed to the treatment. After four hours, she was up and the sickness was gone. Strange remedy, but all who witnessed it swears it is what saved the little girls life. The little girl became my wife in 1981. Her father, mother, and grandmother all said she was going to die and this saved her life.

    Was it luck or some very interesting bio-chemistry at work? I don't know, but it is a very interesting story.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 11 months ago
    Enemas.
    When I was a child, it was considered a cure-all for everything. Tummy ache? Enema. Headache? Enema. Upset stomach? Enema. Except for me. Even at five, I fought so hard that it took three grown women just to get me in the bathroom. My mom eventually just said to hell with it. I pitied those kids, who unlike me, would "go gently into that good night."

    I'm debating to tell the following joke. Oh well, what the hell:
    In New York there was a Jewish theater where the plays were put on in Yiddish. At one performance, a beloved and famous actor had a heart attack and died on stage. The curtain was closed and a very young Paul Muni told the audience what had happened. A voice from the audience said "Give him an enema." Muni disregarded it and went on extolling the dead man. The voice kept on with the same advice several more times. Finally, Muni. gazing out into the audience shouted in frustration, "The man is dead. What good would it do to give him an enema!?" The voice from the audience wafted forward, "It vouldn't hoit." It may be a joke but it did reflect a certain attitude.
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    • Posted by strugatsky 8 years, 11 months ago
      There is science behind the enema. Many of our ailments are due to toxins. Clearing out the bowels and flushing out the toxins gives the body the strength to fight infections and gives overall health and strength. Many of the foods that we eat, such as processed foods and semi-baked flours move very slowly and get contaminated internally.
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    • Posted by Exitstageright 8 years, 11 months ago
      Gads, the dreaded enema bag. My Grandmother raised my twin brother and I, and anytime we got to "acting up", all she had to do was enter the room with red rubber bag/hose/insertion piece in tow, and two cranky little shits would immediatly become model citizens....
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  • Posted by $ havepen 8 years, 11 months ago
    Chicken poop is also a great deterrent. I am 67 and grew up on the farm. I chewed my nails down to the quick. My mother rubbed my fingers in poop daily for three days. It is like onion or garlic in that you can't just wash it off. The stink has to run its course. I haven't chewed my nails to this day.
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    Posted by illucio 8 years, 11 months ago
    Lefty do-gooders huh.

    Well, obviously this would be considered a right winged comment and page then, right?

    Really, I smell a rat !
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    • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 11 months ago
      I don't know for sure why that was added but I will tell you that it was lefty, liberal, progressives and that general mindlessness that promoted allopathic medicine: treat the symptom instead of the cause. Before that we used natural resources and practices handed down through the millennia.
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    • Posted by ChestyPuller 8 years, 11 months ago
      If only you could brush off the truth that easily...you could be Hillary Clinton's campaign manager.

      In truth the left [known as Statist’s (big government) types], is the reason for most regulation and law causing people to run into prosecution for trying to do what they believe is best for their family and themselves.

      Who wants 10 working people to pay for 1 retired person? The Socialist Left [social security].

      Who wants the whole of the working class to pay the healthcare for all? The Socialist Left [ACA (AKA Obamacare)].

      Who has through regulations and testing made it cost $10 million to test and approve a new medical device? The Socialist Left, example of this the newest replacement heart valve used in America today is 2nd generation while the rest of the world is using 8th generation heart valves.

      Who forced the use of ‘fluoride’, ‘chlorine’, ‘automotive antifreeze’ and other chemicals in the public drinking water systems? The Socialist Left.

      I guess it is time for you to brush this off as what? Conspiracy? Lie’s?

      I am an Engineer in the Medical field, and did several years [back in the day] in construction of Water Treatment plants, Nuclear power plants, Bridges and Skyscrapers; your pedigree in this discussion is...
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      • Posted by $ Abaco 8 years, 11 months ago
        You and I have similar backgrounds. I also have worked in the water industry as well as a couple stints in the healthcare industry. Conventional, modern disease control methods are, for the most part, a complete fraud. I can't describe the raw impact it had on me as I learned this. It was mind-blowing. In my case, I even learned some of it taking part in a medical study as a subject, getting to know the PhDs running the study. The general public has no idea how hard they are being screwed...
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        Posted by illucio 8 years, 11 months ago
        Great Way to close a statement, throwing a degree like that automatically makes all you say valuable. As for the other statements well; I see a true polarization, McCarthy like scenario. It´s useless to argue here really. I could give you my "pedigree" but, really? Like if I told you my "degree" that would force retraction on your behalf?

        I truly pity this "simplistic" way of viewing things. The "left" is wrong, blame it on something and there. "I hate taxes that aren´t one hundred percent beneficial on my behalf", etc. If you don´t like supporting public welfare, or the retired; well then maybe you should be the brave John Galt to move out, dissappear and form a secret society of enlightenned beings then. Too bad I´d have to remind you that´s just fiction. "They´re comming for your gold Johnny". Hahaha
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        • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 8 years, 11 months ago
          No, we hate taxes whether we benefit from them or not. It's called theft when people with a gun come and take your stuff.

          You are entirely free to support all the worthwhile causes you want -- with your assets. Don't claim superior morality because you are willing to have other people robbed to pay for your causes.
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          • Posted by illucio 8 years, 11 months ago
            What? SUperior Morality? Looks like it´s bullseye here then. I never "claimed" anything, and as far as I know no one puts a gun to your head, do they?

            This is typical, narrow mindedness. You want to reap societies perks, and decline responsability for them I see. Again, I can´t help but laugh at this. The highest percent on tax goes to national defense policies, do not forget. And again, you can´t handle the truth of what living in society means (pros and cons, as in everything). Here´s a shovel, pave your own road and else then.
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            • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 8 years, 11 months ago
              Perhaps you don't understand. If you refuse to pay your taxes the government will take the money by force. Out of your bank account if it is there, if not they will send marshals for yours stuff. They have guns and they will, in fact, put a gun to your head if you object. The only reason this doesn't happen very often is that people give them the money before that happens -- because, in the end, there will be a armed officer.
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                Posted by illucio 8 years, 11 months ago
                I understand perfectly, you don´t want to pay taxes and are making up excuses not to pay. If your prerogative were that your a peaceful persona, I´d understand. But your complaint is welfare and public health. These percentages on taxes are low, very low indeed. I don´t hear anyone here complainning about Federal Bail Outs for Corporate Atrocities now, mmm.
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                • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 8 years, 11 months ago
                  I don't need to make up excuses not to have money taken from me involuntarily. It's wrong.

                  I am complaining about federal bail outs for corporations -- they are wrong. Almost everyone on this site is opposed to federal bail outs of corporations.

                  I suggest you read some Ayn Rand before you try to swim in this pool.
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    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 11 months ago
      can you define left and right? each takes three words. I'll give you some time and throw in Center as a bonus
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      • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 11 months ago
        Left - Government Control People
        Center - Home Of Constitution
        Right- Citizens Control Government

        Left - Rinos Democrats, Dinos, Socialists, Secular Progressives, National and International Socialists in order from right wing of left to extreme left. they believe their center is the center and ignore anything to the right of the RINOs. Are small f (so far) fascist in nature meaning control by any means needed.

        Center - Citizens who support and believe in the Constitution and stay close to that belief. Includes a great many independents and a few splinter parties..

        Right - A few splinter parties primarily Libertarians although they have views in both directions and the extreme is Anarchy and Anarchists

        May sound strange but it works as a system for one explaining why GOP always caves to the Demos. Common belief in three words. Government over people
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    • Posted by 8 years, 11 months ago
      Huh? Over the years I have read a number of stories about groups who didn't agree with the treatment parents were giving their children and they tried to take custody of the child so the state could administer what they considered normal treatment. Since the right of the political spectrum believes in liberty and individual freedom I concluded these groups were lefties. Really not sure I even understand your comment.
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      • Posted by $ Abaco 8 years, 11 months ago
        Rich. There are a lot of Republicans who favor the government taking kids away from their parents for government-forced medical treatment. However, the ranks of such freaks are much more common in the Dems.
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        • Posted by 8 years, 11 months ago
          It's getting harder and harder to tell the difference between Democrats and Republicans. Why anyone would support such an idea is hard for me to believe.
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          • Posted by $ Abaco 8 years, 11 months ago
            I recently followed a law through three committees here in California - a law that will eventually lead to kids being taken from their families for no reason. It was very educational to hear the elected officials speak during these hearings. The law sailed through, but the quantity of citizens in opposition was to large to be housed at the Capital. One democrat (during a hearing) said that we have "an obligation" to break up families. Scariest thing I've ever heard an American politician say in my lifetime. There were a couple Republicans on committees and they appeared to be naïve, duped, "Well, golly gee!" Watching this bill go through the system forever changed my view of how I fit into America. In short - I barely do.
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