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    Posted by Zenphamy 8 years, 11 months ago
    I prefer the idea of the 8to9 hour series. There's just too much to put in a movie.
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    • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 8 years, 11 months ago
      Absolutely...a mini-series of some sort would be the optimal manner to get the story of Atlas Shrugged across to viewers. AS needs a definite beginning AND end.
      I would, happily, purchase the complete mini-series, when it came out.

      A TV series is a good suggestion, but most of those never run to a decent conclusion, which (I believe) would damage the original story.

      Either way, John Galt's speech will be a sticking point. I think a "pared down" version might be acceptable, with the entire speech offered as an extra feature in a DVD release.
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  • Posted by $ HeroWorship 8 years, 11 months ago
    I am excited about the mini-series talk. Al Ruddy is an interesting character.
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    • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 11 months ago
      I could imagine the mini-series becoming a hit show like Battlestar Gallactica did.

      I would love stories about everday people in AS working to survive despite gov't moving things around on account of favors. I imagined people that AS didn't focus on surviving in spite of the looting policies.
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      • Posted by Flootus5 8 years, 11 months ago
        My story would be great. It would expand the breadth of the looter phenomenon to include all the enviro scams that are impacting us today.

        Incorporate the real thing. My gold exploration product which had the potential to produce real money for me and my partners and real money (gold dollars) for a free society is taken by government fiat to save an "endangered" bird that exists across 350 million acres in 11 western States.

        But, oops, that would bring up the on-going debate on which time period to set it in. Sorry. hehe, Not.
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        • Posted by $ Maree 8 years, 11 months ago
          Likewise, i invested in a mining op that didnt get consents partly due to endangered........ Snails.
          Millions of dollars spent to collect all the snails.
          It seemed the mine might get into production.
          Then there was a power cut at their new home. (Indoors). Now there are no endangered snails.
          And the mine never got going.
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        • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 11 months ago
          "My gold exploration product which had the potential to produce real money for me and my partners and real money (gold dollars) for a free society is taken by government fiat to save an "endangered" bird that exists across 350 million acres in 11 western States."
          I am not a creative person, but I think these stories would have to be the backdrop for human stories about conflict, redemption, love, etc. That way it doesn't come off a preachy. It would be up to the viewer to wonder how the whole situation would be different if the people involved had found a way for the company to get its gold without harming the environment.
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          • Posted by Flootus5 8 years, 11 months ago
            One of the common misunderstandings in the general public is how the "environment" is actually "harmed" by mining. What is called the footprint of disturbance is very small compared to the total.

            The power of the story is that nothing needs to be fiction in order to make the point. This whole recent action is not about the "endangered" bird but about collective government power and control. The central government wishes to remove 10 million acres of public domain in the western states from locatable mineral entry. But the total acreage in existing and proposed Plans of Operations within these areas is 0.05% of the total. That illustrates the anatomy of a federal land grab. Without making anything up.

            I am not saying you advocated that, however. I am speaking to the context of using real stories to create a modern Atlas Shrugged where, as you outlined, people are trying to survive in the face of this. A great way to paint the picture.
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      • Posted by blackswan 8 years, 11 months ago
        The second Battlestar Gallactica (even better than the first), Dallas, Homeland, Agents of SHIELD, etc. are all great series. AS can be better than any of them, and can certainly have a greater impact.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 8 years, 11 months ago
    A movie wouldn't do justice to the story. I wanted to see a series with, at minimum, three seasons of ten one-hour episodes each. Like the Showtime treatment of King Henry VIII and Pope Alexander VI.

    Some here have talked about following everyday people trying to make it in the world where everything is degenerating and finally collapsing. You could do a tragic story on the farmer who died on the road in Minnesota, a sack of wheat slung over his shoulder. Or a story on any of a number of characters you saw who took John Galt's advice and headed for the high hills. I'd like to see a new story on an amateur sailor who literally runs away to sea and seeks out Ragnar Danneskjöld, with a view to joining him.
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    • Posted by ycandrea 8 years, 11 months ago
      And don't forget Cheryl Tagart.
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      • Posted by Temlakos 8 years, 11 months ago
        The tragedy of Cheryl Taggart obviously so appalled the producers of the AS series that they simply listed her as vanished even before John Galt made his speech. I can't think of much more to add to her story, unless you want to change its ending.
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        • Posted by terrycan 8 years, 11 months ago
          I would not change the story. Adding detail of her life in Buffalo NY might be interesting. The WWII era steel mills, rusted cars, and the homes in disrepair are tailor made for for TV. Showing her walking past the huge buffalo statue in the derelict rail station would be good TV.
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    • Posted by term2 8 years, 11 months ago
      AS, as written, is a bit depressing. We are already depressed now. What we need is an uplifting story of how to get OUT of this mess. Where the good people WIN for a change and things improve in our country.
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      • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 11 months ago
        Depressing?
        I looked at it, among other things, as a road map into a very probable future. It's filled with heroes, doing heroic things. People who understand what we have always known but were unable to express as elegantly as A.R. The only thing that's depressing is that her vision is coming true. That's not the book's fault.
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        • Posted by term2 8 years, 11 months ago
          As I understand it, Ayn Rand wrote the book to show us where we were heading, in an attempt to get us to NOT go down this road. That part failed of course. Now what we need is to figure out how to reverse what hapened
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      • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 8 years, 11 months ago
        I've heard that The Bible is pretty depressing, also, but people read it for it's uplifting value, rather than be constantly brought down my it's darker portions.

        For me, I read Atlas Shrugged (currently, on my 4th re-read) for the uplifting feelings I get from many parts in the story...and there are many. One merely has to look for the good parts and realize the depressing parts will only happen if we allow them to.
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        • Posted by term2 8 years, 11 months ago
          As I understand it, Ayn Rand wrote it to show us where socialism would lead, in an attempt to get us to NOT have that happen. But that failed to stop it; NOW what we need is to figure out how to dig ourselves out of the problem.
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      • Posted by $ Abaco 8 years, 11 months ago
        I agree that it can be depressing. I think one of the points is that things have to get pretty bad before they get better. I agree with that view, myself, regarding our economy. Things are going to get very bad. And, I don't think any of us can do anything about it.
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        • Posted by term2 8 years, 11 months ago
          thats why AR put the gulch in the book- so people could have some hope while things were crashing
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          • Posted by $ Abaco 8 years, 11 months ago
            I hear ya. It's interesting because I, personally, have been researching different "escapes" for my family and others.

            Note how the concern around government intrusion is at least as relevant today.
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      • Posted by Temlakos 8 years, 11 months ago
        It's not so depressing when you finally realize, as Henry Rearden and Dagny Taggart eventually do, that the good guys simply had a place to hide out and wait for the insanity to run its course.
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        • Posted by term2 8 years, 11 months ago
          but they spend a lot of their lives slowly seeing the economy be depressed. And then how is it built back up? People wont have the money to just instantly improve things.
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          • Posted by Temlakos 8 years, 11 months ago
            But they will. Ragnar Danneskjöld has seen to that. The government had to collapse so it would be out of the way. When the lights go out in Megalopolis USA, the looter government no longer exists. Instead you have the Gulch, a few encamped militias, and the warring gangs.
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    • Posted by terrycan 8 years, 11 months ago
      A very interesting twist. Including detail of some middle class people.
      Perhaps the skilled lathe operator Dagney had dinner with. He would be a good character. He experienced much of what AS described at a street level. However he maintained the dignity of a man though all of it.
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      • Posted by Temlakos 8 years, 11 months ago
        Jeff Adams would be a prize example. But how about the shoemaker who, with his entire executive staff, simply didn't show up for work one day, and no one was any the wiser until noon? Or the homeowner who burned his house on the day of his vanishing? Or any of a number of ordinary folks who, taking John Galt's advice, took the lead of a number of militia camps that the Army G-2 wasn't even willing to investigate?
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 11 months ago
    The way to do it is to make it a Broadway/Roadshow event. It will need an auditorium type venue rather than a movie theater. Starting at 10 am light snacks are served. Movie starts at 11:00 am. Break for lunch, which is served as part of the ticket price. Restart a 2:00 pm for two hours. Break at 4:00 for drinks and snacks bathroom, etc. Movie starts at 5:00 and is over by 7:00 and people can go out or go home for dinner. But first, the most important person on the project must be the writer. Someone who can take the essence of the story, including its salient parts and make an exciting futuristic scifi out of it. You need not hit them over the head with the philosophic aspects, they'll get it. Then you need a director whose vision is identical to the writer's. As Hitchcock said, the actors are chess pieces to be moved by the director. Whew! Well, that's my take. In that way it will become an event, wherever it's shown and not just a movie.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 11 months ago
    I think Atlas Shrugged has been played out. What we need is a movie which starts where AS left off- basically the rebuilding of our country and how that could be done. AS #1 was well done, but the remaining 2 installments were pretty unimpressive, almost to the point of being boring. The actors were not good and it left you hanging s to what we can do NOW.
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    • Posted by Eyecu2 8 years, 11 months ago
      Wile I disagree with you on more than one point here. I do love your suggestion of a story that picks up where AS left off, that focuses on the rebuilding phase.
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      • Posted by term2 8 years, 11 months ago
        Yeah, all I hear now is how socialism will fix our ills. Trump is refreshing in that he doesnt promote that, but picks apart the dumb policies of the current administration and brings them to light.

        We desperately need some uplifting stories showing how capitalism can and would result in a better country. Its got to be done in video that people are used to watching, and it needs to show things at a level where people are AT. Philosophy needs to be demonstrated I think in practical terms at this point in time.
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    • Posted by Flootus5 8 years, 11 months ago
      You may have a point in that sense for all of the fans. But it is all the rest out there that need to see it and see it done well.

      I wholeheartedly agree with those here that have said that the concept of a lengthier mini-series is the best. Really develop it well and keep it moving in a way that captures the audience.

      And THEN, keep going with where it leaves off.
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    • Posted by blackswan 8 years, 11 months ago
      Create ASI, which is the book. Then, create ASII, which can be the rebuilding. ASII can address the skills and world view that would be needed to rebuild a world destroyed by mooching. You'd have to not only address the technical issues of rebuilding, but also the philosophical issues that would be needed for a rebuilding to be sustainable. That would mean having to address philosophy, history, education, the arts, and much more, not just engineering.
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  • Posted by mshupe 8 years, 11 months ago
    Did I read the original idea was for three sets of mini-series, one for each section of the novel, consisting of 13 episodes each over 3 years. That may have been to aggressive, but I don't think 8 hours is sufficient. It will be very interesting see how they treat the novel set in the near future.
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    • Posted by $ Suzanne43 8 years, 11 months ago
      I think that you are right in thinking that the original idea was for a three year mini-series with thirteen episodes for each year. I was pleased. But now it's been pared way down. I do wish that the mini series would be MUCH longer than eight hours.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 11 months ago
    I think the three movies we have are fine. They make the story about the same length as the Lord of the Rings (also three movies), which it is.
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  • Posted by blackswan 8 years, 11 months ago
    You'd need a miniseries that would last for at least 26 episodes of 1 to 2 hours each. Begin with all the main characters, the heroes and the villains, as kids, growing up, forming their world views, all the way through college. Then, show them going out into the world, dealing with their first sets of triumphs and failures, frustrations and victories. Next, comes the achievements - the John Galt Line, Rearden Metal, Hammond Motors, Wyatt Oil, etc. Follow that with the clash between the producers and the looters. Finally, bring on John Galt, and the coup de grace to mooching. It might take even more than 26 episodes, but this level of detail is necessary for the average guy to get it, in its full context.
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  • Posted by Joseph23006 8 years, 11 months ago
    Such an undertaking would require a "Harry Potter", "Star Wars", "Hobbit/Ring" series for the story to unfold properly, six 3 to 4 hour installments. Shifting continuity and casts hampered the first try, though it did break ground; the third came across as a cheap B-movie of the Forties. A series would play better, giving time to digest each episode and be truer to the book than the predessor.
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  • Posted by Rex_Little 8 years, 11 months ago
    When I first read AS, I said to myself, "This would make a great movie, but it would be too long. They should make a bunch of episodes, an hour and a half or two hours each, and show them on TV for consecutive nights."

    That was 1971--years before the first miniseries ("Roots") was made.
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