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The Third GOP Debate: Candidates Eat the Media

Posted by DrEdwardHudgins 9 years ago to News
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I explain that the big losers of the third GOP debate were the CNBC questioners and the pretentious faux-journalists in general who were eaten alive by the candidates. Oh yes, and a few terrible ideas were crushed as well
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  • Posted by copperop 9 years ago
    there is no such thing as a stupid question if the person asking the question is trying to learn something.The point being that these were not really questions, but personal attacks veiled as questions.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years ago
    The questions: I agree. They're a counter-example to the claim there's no such thing as a stupid question".

    Huckabee: I agree gov't shouldn't attack specific diseases and that private investors should invest in slowing/curing aging.

    Paul and the Fed: This is one point on which I disagree with him. I'm welcome alternatives to the USD like bitcoin. I do not agree believe monetary policy was responsible for the financial crisis. If it were, we would have seen general inflation, not a speculative mania concentrated in one sector.

    Crony Capitalism: I've seen it at work. It's a huge problem. It's really disgusting when you run into it.

    Fiorina and the Constitution: I agree with her on gov't-sponsored 401(k)s. My reading of the 4th and 3rd Amendements says drug prohibition is against the spirit of the Constituion. My general impression is Republicans are fine with a massive gov't that harasses its citizens and foreigners, as long as it does not give the appearance of trying to be helpful.
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    • Posted by 9 years ago
      I blame the Fed for the housing bust plus a decade of government regulators pushing banks to make unsound loans. But Paul's point is that government manipulation of money is even more problematic than government manipulation of prices in any particular sector. Other factors determine the specific adverse effects. But, for example, the Fed tried to protect investors after the dot-com bust and, in the process, helped create the housing bubble.
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      • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years ago
        The riskiest loans were made by lenders who weren't tied to govt. It was an old-fashioned speculative mania. It seems like you're saying loosemonetary policy causes mania in one unpredictable area. Wherever we see a mania, you say post hoc that monetary policy caused it.
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        • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years ago
          Weren't tied? I dont' think so ..Most of those were bundled and sent to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac not as valid deeds and purchase contracts but as computer printouts. it was a government scam start to finish.
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    • Posted by $ jlc 9 years ago
      Oh. This is good, "My general impression is Republicans are fine with a massive gov't that harasses its citizens and foreigners, as long as it does not give the appearance of trying to be helpful."

      It should be in a book or script somewhere...

      Jan
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 9 years ago
    Yet, I think the Republicans are still missing the point of the strategy. The liberal bias was meant as a distraction
    I paid attention to what wasn’t ask of the candidates.

    Not one question was asked of the candidates to give a ‘nod’ to the youth vote who made up the majority of that debate audience. Student loans? Jobs? I saw that as more suspicious of intent than the moderators negative tones.
    If the Republicans are smart they will get out in front of this before the next Dem debate, because a play for the youth vote is coming and it would be a bad strategy for Republicans to be seen dragged into the conversation screaming and kicking unaware.
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    • Posted by baron987 9 years ago
      RE: Student loans - I borrowed to go to college @7-1/2% which was a very fair rate at that time and I paid it ALL back - I think students should now pay a fair rate, maybe 2% or less, then they would be able to pay it back.
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      • Posted by Texaswildfire 9 years ago
        If you take out a loan to make it easier to go to college, you have to plan on how you are going to pay it back.
        You made the agreement, no one forced you.
        Unless you feel you have the right to make others pay for your education! You feel others should work for your benefit, not their own ?
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      • Posted by plusaf 9 years ago
        baron987... sorry, you Lost Me at "fair rate."

        You 'defined it' as 2% but you didn't explain why 2% is any kind of 'best "fair" rate' or why 1%, 5% or 15% isn't 'better in the real world.'

        Now, for Eco 101... When ANY product or commodity (including home and student loans) are subsidized or forced to be marketed at Below-Market Rates, the inevitable result is Excessive Demand and marketplace distortions that create really bad Unintended Consequences in the Future.

        And even worse is the unicorn-imaginary 'benefit' called "free," as in tuition, Bernie Sanders! In the long run, 'free stuff' loses virtually all of its intrinsic value.

        If he could convince enough voters, Bernie might try to 'create lots of jobs' by forcing subsidies or loans to New Car Buyers at 0.5% interest rates up to 90% of the purchase price!

        First, automakers couldn't hire enough people or build factories fast enough to build cars as they spiraled towards bankruptcy, and Gee, Bernie, don't all those tired, hungry Middle Americans NEED inexpensive, reliable Transportation in order to SURVIVE?

        And people actually buy into that shit.
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      • Posted by $ Mimi 9 years ago
        Me too. But you have to have a position. What I am suggesting is that the Republicans aren’t prepared to address the questions on the topics that centralists or for that matter the mainstream media will be concerned with during the Primary. It would be better for them to look as if they gave the topic some thought. What the solutions are...well that’s another topic.
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    • Posted by H2ungar123 9 years ago
      Yeah, "if the Republicans are smart...." They
      haven't been smart for a looooooong time! It's
      becoming embarrassing to be a Republican.
      Ask Tom Tancredo who just stopped being one!
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  • Posted by ChuckyBob 9 years ago
    I wish first that they would cut the number in the "debate" (I use the term "debate" lightly) to no more than five. This whole thing of only getting no more than 10 minutes to voice your platform is useless. the folks on the lower end don't have a chance, so they are just wasting time. Second, when the "moderators" (and I use that term lightly) pose stupid, asinine statements veiled as questions, the candidates need to just say "That was a stupid and asinine attempt. How about we ask a real policy question like (insert your favorite subject)? How about you Ben, what do you think?" Just steal the show and turn it into a real debate between gentlemen and lady. Third, when the "moderators" say, "Hey, he just said something bad about you! Wanna verbally duke it out with him?" the candidates need to say "Grow up and act like an adult. Next question."
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    • Posted by Texaswildfire 9 years ago
      If you feel the field should be cot to 5, who do you suggest do the cutting ?
      You want the power ? Or perhaps the government should limit it ti the first 5 who declare.
      Or maybe only the ones who have financial means to run viable campaign.

      I don't know about you, but as inconvenient as it is, I can't think of a more equal way to run the process.
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      • Posted by ChuckyBob 9 years ago
        It's really pretty simple, if you're in the single digits in polling you don't have a chance. This does not mean that you don't have a good platform, only that statistically you aren't electable. Have a secondary debate for all that are not in the top five in polling, but cut the main debate to just the top five so they have time to explain themselves.
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        • Posted by Texaswildfire 9 years ago
          What you say, makes some sense, but if we make it easier with 5 then soon its 4 then 3. Then we have the choice of one appointed person from each party until we have no choice. Even I could run for president, maybe even get a whole dozen votes, maybe. But that is what is good about this country, CHOICE. If we keep giving up choice and freedom for convenience, soon we will have none of the three !

          I for one am willing to take the time and listen and read to make my choice.
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          • Posted by plusaf 9 years ago
            One of my basic beliefs is that Having Enough Choices Is The Best Indicator of Wealth anyone could try to find.

            If Bernie thinks there are too many brands of deodorant on his supermarket's shelves, he doesn't deserve the oxygen he consumes.
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