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I think we need to stop naming kids DaQuan and ShaT'qua. We also need to spend more time with our kids and love them and make sure that God and Jesus are first in our lives.
I think such prejudice is so far over the top to not be tolerated. No matter how I might disagree with some people on some issues, I would never go so far and I felt that it needed cleared up. Thank you.
http://sbcheritage.com/southern-baptists...
it is a concept unique to Christianity. I can't help it that your church never discusses it, but it is primary to to Christianity. Judaism does not teach "inherited sin". You can explain it in how many other ways and terms you like-but it is still a component of uniqueness to the Christian faith-
and it is philosophically the opposite of Objectivism. what's the point of baptism then? seriously, up is down
To the baptism question, it is simply a matter of whose sins are being forgiven. Original Sin charges everyone, even an infant, with the sin of Adam. That's whose sins are being removed under that doctrine. It is an entirely different matter to say one is baptised to deal with their own sins, whose guilt is carried because that individual knew the difference between right and wrong and chose the wrong.
Jesus dying for everyone's sins is the opposite of Objectivist philosophy. So I'm always scratching my head that Christians are ok with other parts of Objectivism. Because those other parts are based on the fact you would not value such sacrifices.But, everyone can do and think as they will. The contradictions will be pointed out in here.
To the rest of your comments, I'll leave that for another day should the opportunity present itself. I really don't come on here to talk about the subject. I just have to speak up when I think Christianity is being misrepresented.
This is the Gulch... where objectivism is welcome and should be the norm. Again I ask why non objectivist or religious ones want to spend time in here...or why they're surprised that there are actually objectivists in here.
What a waste of day. I things to do.
So what? John Galt is the only person who can be a liar and a cheat?
Besides which, nothing in the oath bars religious belief, including a belief in God, or worship of God.
The oath is to not live for another MAN'S sake. Doesn't say anything about not living for one's OWN sake.
The fact that they act this way, I think goes to prove my "baddest ass on the block" theory. Since they have not had a religious foundation instilled, and they have been taught not to fear the legal system, they adopt a hierarchy of power. And there is always someone at the top. Often that person is challenged and either remains victorious, in which the challenger is often dead, or loses, in which case the former BAOTB is almost assuredly dead.
What we need is a resurgence of morality teaching in these communities. Unfortunately, the internal leadership of those communities is supported in subverting that objective in order to maintain power. And those who might have influence, such as Bill Cosby, are marginalized when they do speak up. And others such as Clarence Thomas, Ben Carson, Walter Williams, Herman Cain, Alan Keyes, etc., etc., etc. are vilely vilified.
Nobody has to do drugs, nobody needs to do drugs.
The illegality of drugs didn't kill Hoffman, or Belushi, or Ledger. They were all rich and easily able to obtain drugs; the highest quality drugs.
They had no reason to DO drugs.
You're implying that the people in this neighborhood are inherently drug addicts. That none of them could have been taught, as their grandparents were taught, to work and be responsible for their lives.
The mothers become the sole economic provider in large part because of the artificial culture that took away the traditional morality of such neighborhoods. The morality that dictated that a man must work and support his family, that he must not do drugs.
Why are they targeted for imprisonment? Because they break the law. The law doesn't say they can't have food or shelter or a job. The law says they can't use or distribute drugs. Under those circumstances, it's REAL easy to stay out of jail.
That said, I think that the war on drugs has been a foolish pursuit, and is a terrible waste of resources. As are all instances of prohibition based on a moral basis.
Look at how whites, particularly white males, are treated in the modern media, from commercials to tv and movies. Weak, impotent, cowardly, foolish, backward and out-of-touch.
Back in the 1980s, a common attribution applied to Japanese men was their taste for, not just white, but blonde women. The explanation sometimes given was their attempt to regain their potency and dominance by possessing the women of those who emasculated them.
This was explained in Anthro 101, and is embodied in the quote misattributed to Ghengis Khan and Atilla the Hun;
the great leader is sitting among his warriors (NOT soldiers) and the question comes up as to what is best in life. One asserts that the open steppes, the wind in your face, and a falcon to stir up the hares is best.
The Khan or Hun responds that no, what is best in life is to drive your enemy before you; to destroy his works, to possess his woman before him.
Like it or not, it's in our genes that "possession" of the females of a tribe equates to the ultimate dominance of that tribe.
Now watch the phase the media is in; watch commercials, television programs, movies, and see how frequently black males and *blonde* females are portrayed together (and the female is seldom portrayed respectfully). For comparison, keep likewise count on how often white males and black females are are portrayed together (further proof of this almost instinctive outlook; political correctness would forbid a portrayal of a white male even vaguely "possessing" a black female... it harkens back too closely to the days of slavery, don'tcha know...) A black person, especially male, who rejects the artificial "black culture" is, in the media and public arena, condemned for "acting white", when the real black culture has far more in common with "white culture" than with the artificial black culture.
Combined with the destructive, artificial "black culture" they've created, and you've a modern-day Morloch/Eloi relationship established.
You'll also have to explain the success of Christian cultures and the failure of atheist cultures. To wit, the United States vs every communist hellhole on the planet.
As far as putting God first, I recall in the article that the defender didn't want to pursue the confrontation because his kids were there. It made it seem to me that he knew the aggressor and was anticipating an encounter. As a Christian myself, I have never gone to the mall with my kids and been afraid that the rival catholic church would gun me down!
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"Infidel" looks like a really good book. After yesterday's discussion, I'm seriously considering picking it up.
Here's another book on the same subject which is also very enlightening, and which I highly recommend:
www.amazon.com/The-Islamist-Ed-Husain/dp...
They are NOT us.
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Just not the same way homosexuals are appalled at the Folsom Street Fair, or socialists (usually atheists) are appalled at the Occupy crowd.
As it appears to me, he said...
"make sure that God and Jesus are first in our lives. "
That doesn't necessarily have anything to do with going to a building with a certain architecture on a specific day of the week.
You might not like it, and might not believe that that is moral, but that doesn't change the reality of things.
The link be morality and religion is absurd. Christianity is immoral on its face. To condemn a child to Original Sin is the very definition of moral bankruptcy.
I agree with what you said about church goers and their children. You see this often with Pastors Kids (PK). Growing up kids think that they are the most important thing in a Parents life. We should know that God comes first, then our family (spouse and kids) then work and other stuff. But when parents put God first and make their kids feel insignificant then I think that's how the kids become "wild animals" There is a fine line to walk as a parent to keep God first but still make the kids feel important and part of the family without forsaking God in the process. This could easily be flipped around and then you would end up with a spoiled brat who gets everything they want.
"The evils for which they damn him are reason, morality, creativeness, joy—all the cardinal values of his existence. It is not his vices that their myth of man’s fall is designed to explain and condemn, it is not his errors that they hold as his guilt, but the essence of his nature as man. Whatever he was—that robot in the Garden of Eden, who existed without mind, without values, without labor, without love—he was not man." Galt's Speech
How open minded are you if you reject the discussion of the subject. It's amazing how some actually flip out at the mention of religion. I don't think some here are "open minded" at all.
I remember a post where a member wanted to discuss the appropriate age for reading AS and because she mentioned she had a partner- the post immediately focused on that and how evil she was. The original intent of the post completely ignored. On THIS site! When several gulchers say hey-it's a little too much-can't that be seen as reasonable?.
Guess you're not open minded, then.
I'm going to tell you something people don't seem to say much...
IT'S HIS UNIVERSE. If it amuses Him to stake us out on anthills... there's not a damned thing you can do about it.
Among Christians, it's generally believed that children, being innocent, do make it to heaven. It's also why most Christians try to get their children baptized as early as possible.
"Original Sin" is why we're here and not in the Garden of Eden. Look around. This life you love so much and want to make the most of. This is the world of free will, self-determination, responsibility for one's actions.
THIS is what children have been condemned to for Original Sin.
It is that humans are fallible. There are no humans that are without sin. That does not mean that all humans are incapable of redemption.
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8 Listen to the words of Christ, your Redeemer, your Lord and your God. Behold, I came into the world not to call the righteous but sinners to repentance; the whole need no physician, but they that are sick; wherefore, little children are whole, for they are not capable of committing sin; wherefore the curse of Adam is taken from them in me, that it hath no power over them; and the law of circumcision is done away in me.
9 And after this manner did the Holy Ghost manifest the word of God unto me; wherefore, my beloved son, I know that it is solemn mockery before God, that ye should baptize little children.
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15 For awful is the wickedness to suppose that God saveth one child because of baptism, and the other must perish because he hath no baptism.
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The Book of Mormon, Moroni chapter 8, verses 8, 9, & 15
http://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/moro/...
The Mormon church also has 13 Articles of Faith, the second of which states that “men will be punished for their own sins and not for Adam’s transgression.”
http://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/a-of-f...
http://churchofchristarticles.com/blog/a...
"But original enters into us; we do not commit it, but we suffer it. We are sinners because we are the sons of a sinner. A sinner can beget only a sinner, who is like him.” - Martin Luther.
22 For as in Adam all die(this is sin), even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
This shows that Adam as the example sinned. God could have gone through the same process with every human born after Adam, put them in the garden tell them stay away from sin. Let them eat the fruit then send them into the world. Let them find out they can't do everything by themselves.That is not what he chose to do sin entered the world God gets to choose.who are his examples.
I'm out.
How about it Rich, are religious people not welcome here???? I'm serious. I've never met such a bunch of closed minded people in my life.
I don't have to be here. But I bet some of you do. Keep on talking among yourselves telling yourselves just how all knowing you are, never challenging your preconceptions. I'm sure that's how Ayn Rand figured it all out.
I for one, find the debate invigorating. What I find less so are those who are closed minded. I'll tolerate them for some time, but when they show themselves to be mere bigots, I cut them loose.
I do appreciate that the owners of the site do not impose restrictions in nearly any respect. It is self-restraint that keeps this site mostly rational and not irrational. Yet there are those who still verge on the irrational.
That answer your question?
I will give you one possible exception - a deist, which many of our founder fathers were. I still don't think it makes sense, but it doesn't hurt.
We all do it. It's hard to avoid when debating ideas.
There is no proof of a here after and you only live once.... If there is a here after then what kind of God would keep out a moral person who lived their one life for their own happiness and not at the expense of others?
I also don't understand how a father sends his son to his horrible death for the sins of others. I won't further this discussion since you've just damned us all to hell for being decent people who don't believe what you believe. But that's typical and expected. Who you pray for is your business, not mine.
Frankly you need to ratchet down the hysteria and study religion some time because you really don't understand anything correctly. Surely you'd agree that if you lack understanding perhaps your preconceptions might just be wrong and you would be better served by correctly understanding what you are rejecting?
I'm not saying that you should become a Christian, I'm just saying that not correctly understanding the tenants you so vehemently reject is shameful for an intelligent person. Making a totally wrong theological statement like that is embarrassing. It's like saying that stars are hung with masking tape when you talk with an astronomer.
Make no mistake, I correctly understand what I am rejecting.
And I'm not the hysterical one in the room.
AFTER you die, and have successfully avoided any holy influences in your life what happens is between you and God. I know that you want to be all anti god and everything, but as the hourglass runs out lots of folks turn to God for help beyond their ability to handle. Maybe you will maybe not, again nobody chooses for you.
Decide in the last second of your live that you don't want to change a thing -guess what, YOU decide. Not me, not some preacher someplace, not god, not your dad, you decide.
My job in the entire thing is to just make sure you understand that.
God created heaven for people who want to be there, not for folks who think they've got to go. BTW, I'm not attacking nobody. I'm just having a good laugh at the misconceptions here. Don't anybody give up your day jobs because you won't make as theologians.
and who says I'm "WRONG"? You? You don't KNOW that. You might FEEEL it, but you don't KNOOOW it. Try proving it.
I never aspired to be a theologian anyway.
1) AR is not the absolute authority on the effects of belief.
2) What guards against the "baddest ass on the block" philosophy without a religious aspect?
As for you not wanting to allow any discussion of religious matters, if anybody reads your posts on this thread I'd suggest they won't draw any other conclusion.
I dare you to prove this wrong.
It is the height of bad manners. Jesus Christ, I say.
Dragonball Z used it once, and a couple writers that you can find on Amazon have borrowed it for the title of their books.
Yeah, I’m not big on evangelism. I prefer the christians of my youth who prayed for the poor or the hungry. When the eighties brought the masses of born-again-christians who wanted to pray for your soul.What can I say? Yuck. Shut-up; go away.
Tell you what... have this conversation with an "innocent" lion or an "innocent" wolf and see how long your face remains intact while conversing with that "innocent" animal.
Never could understand why an innocent lion is born with already the label of "killer" laid on it.
We are the apes that we are; it is in our nature to act according to our nature. It takes an act of will to do otherwise. The default position is to act according to your nature. So you have 'sin' on you until you prove yourself more than an animal by controlling your nature.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJsYKhEV...
Apes are not lions. Are you taking the analogy to ridiculous extremes because you're still in a perverse mood, or are you really that obtuse?
The "sin" you decry, on innocent babies, is that they will act according to their instincts, their nature, just as a lion will act according to his nature. For example, *according to a lion's nature*, if you annoy him, he will kill you and not lose a second's sleep over it. He is born this way, with this "sin" upon his head. To be otherwise would be a learned behavior. You want to get into heaven, learn not to behave like an ape.
But, amusingly, you argue as though everyone has a "right" to get into heaven, that they have a "right" to an afterlife... kind of like arguing as though everyone had a "right" to a job... no, you have a right to a job if you suit your would-be employer. Likewise, your "right" to an afterlife is based solely upon meeting God's criteria for achieving an afterlife. If it were standing on your head 12 hours a day reciting Chinese poetry while spitting ball bearings... that may not make any sense to you, but that's the criteria.
Hey, one day, you're going to die, be put in the ground and rot, and that's the end of it. If that belief makes you happy, and gives you that feeling of intellectual or ethical superiority you seem to need to get through the day... more power to you! I'm not one for kicking other people's crutches out from under them. But then I already said I wasn't an Objectivist.
Now you're just plain lying. You've gone off your nut.
I ever heard. How can you condemn a child
in advance for some future act that it may
or not commit based its inherent nature?
The thing about an "innocent" baby... from God's perspective, he's a father, a grandfather, possibly a great grandfather. That whole "omniscient" thing that comes from existing outside of spacetime.
Ever see "Slaughterhouse Five"? "2001 A Space Odyssey"?
It doesn't work that way. And you're arguing Catholic rituals to a protestant who doesn't see the requirement for religious institutions....
Apparently you're not paying attention to what you're typoing...
Would you please go find the target of your hatred and direct your anger accordingly? Holy Hell!
I can't believe that you think that's what it's about! No wonder.
And how many religions teach that God loves you?
Which has nothing at all to do with actual Christian beliefs or the teachings of Jesus.
Might find this useful:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_...
(trivia: caught a bit of the original "Robocrap" yesterday; Head of State Thompson and Wesley Mouch from ASp2 were allied bad guys in it. )
I love it when, on the one hand, people complain that they have to behave a certain way to make it into heaven (analogous to having to earn money before you can spend it... how unfair), and then whine when they don't see God interfering directly in their lives. or because He "allows" bad things to happen to good people. Most people understand "free will" like they understand "free market capitalism".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_gMySgh...
How the gulch attracts the religious remains a complete mystery to me. Perhaps we need two gulches because you're hell bent on trying to convince the rest of us that were misunderstanding god.
There is no church in the gulch.
BTW, God is not in church so by not going there, no dynamic is changed.
Most of us live full lives which include knowledge, experience, family and still find room for religion. It's a part of our lives and we are not challenged by your intolerance and hatred of us because of our belief.
You were very friendly to me until you discovered I was a Christian, then that changed, just like those who are down checking my posts here tonight. I don't understand that, but I have no heart burn with you for your unbelief. Be happy.
You mean like objectivism? or the need for limited government? Or the importance of the 2nd Amendment?
Again, your resentment leads you to the paranoid misapprehension that I'm trying to proselytize you. I don't give a shit what you believe, just as I don't give a shit what Obama believes. But, when you're wrong, or when he's wrong... I'm going to argue.
Oh yeah... almost forgot...
THE CHURCH IS NOT GOD.
Nor is it Christianity. When you stop confusing the institution with the religion, then maybe people will stop thinking you're misguided.
The link be morality and religion is absurd. Christianity is immoral on its face. To condemn a child to Original Sin is the very definition of moral bankruptcy.