Isn't It Wonderful?!
I think that it's just thrilling that Pope Francis feels that the illegal aliens (excuse me...undocumented Democrats) are noble pilgrims embarking on a journey to a brave, new world, and that Bishops should encourage their priests and flocks to welcome them with open arms. His Holiness was a bit light on the details, however. I don't believe the he mentioned how many of them would be continuing on to Vaticanus and how their transportation was to be paid for. Further, he must have forgotten to detail exactly how the Papacy was going to take on the support for those who choose to remain here, paying for food, housing, healthcare, education, etc. In addition, how is the Holy See going to take on the responsibility for the further criminal escapades and mischief the a segment of these people will commit?
But I suppose that His Holiness and Our Holiness will have some secret meeting to work out the details.
~Sigh~
Isn't it just wonderful?
But I suppose that His Holiness and Our Holiness will have some secret meeting to work out the details.
~Sigh~
Isn't it just wonderful?
Question? Will the meetings include 'side deals.'
Congress will unanimously pass a law approving in advance anything Obama wants to agree to while they all insist it's not a treaty. He is our own infallible pope.
The last thing we need is a religious marxist, turning all the catholics into looters too
People make life decisions based on their beliefs, whether grounded in truth or delusion.
Unfortunately, many of these decisions affect more than themselves.
But of course, people look at us with the same concerns.
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No, I don't mean we shouldn't get mad. I know we
have to get mad, and express it. But just that we
should make sure that we don't lose our heads and
make bigoted comments in the process. To tell
you the truth, I didn't think that the head of the
Roman Catholic Church should have been in
that building addressing Congress in the first
place.
(in "Capitalism: the Unknown Ideal".). It was about
Pope Paul VI's encyclical "Popolorum Progressio".
It looks like Pope Francis is continuing Pope Paul's
campaign,(or whatever it should be called).
I looks like we just have to fight, that's all,
rationally explaining to people what's wrong with
that attempt.
....getting mad enough to do something instead of just saying it and I'm not going to take it any more. No more couch potatoes. Life is not a movie. Good call now three.
You can fool some of the papal some of the time.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day.
Teach a man to fish, and he'll sit on the dock drinking beer all day.
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
Advice to the young: Never sit on a wicker chair when naked.
Now the Mystics of Mind are coordinating with the Mystics of Muscle. The collapse will come much quicker.
Before you go out on strike, please assure that there is no way the gooberment can put their dirty hands on any of your wealth. And DON'T give it to the Catholic Church either!
On boats we keep log books. I have two sets. So I always tell the MS which does not mean Miz but Main Squeeze go to set two and keep filling it out as normal then make sure the mail forwarding is paid and the credit cards paid all done by computer and automatically renewed and you have a way of getting the new cards. Have your mail drop forward them to whatever en route address is appropriate. That leaves taxes. Turbo tax is the answer. No signature required. Keep the log books showing crew of two. No need to renew a passport or drivers license.none of that. You aren't in country.
Use ATM's and use it up every month with a bit left over. Make sure you send an email to the bank or whatever one of them is very good I'll recommend it at another time. as to your travel itinerary.
Start putting money aside in different form.
A word of caution. One day someone will show up and say Where's ......he's the oldest known living Vietnam Vet! " At that point whip out the second log book.
He had a heart attack and died and I had to bury him at sea. Just last week! You missed him that close.
Send off the email notificiations, pay the last bills and have fun on your new sailboat.
Trust has a lot to do with it.
I totally disagree with his philosophy, but I am aware that many people of the world actually believe in it and would chose it for themselves. I soooo do not understand this personally - but I do understand that any system of governance needs to take this human tendency into account: We live in a real world where people are socialist and/or religious and we cannot ignore it.
I think Francis believes what he says, but I do not like or support his plan. I want the US gov to firmly keep illegal immigrants out of the US. I am quite willing to be open-handed about work visas and legal immigration policies but I want illegal immigrants gone.
I and my ancestors, for a number of generations, have invested our efforts (and our taxes) in creating a physical infrastructure that makes our lives better. The only people who have a right to that infrastructure are the people who made it and their invited guests - legal immigrants and visitors.
But there are lots of people who disagree with me and who think that what I have belongs to them by right. I can disagree with those people, but still understand that their views and philosophies are real - and if they behave with integrity, I may have a lot of respect for them.
Jan, "may" is a big word
This is a real question, no sarcasm intended.
How can such people behave with integrity? I define integrity [actually, my brand-new OED defines it] as soundness of moral principle; the character of uncorrupted virtue, esp. in truth and fair dealing; uprightness, honesty, sincerity.
How can someone who truly believes what I have produced, or obtained honestly, is actually his? That is certainly not fair dealing.
How can someone who behaves with no concern for the consequences of his actions [remember the woman with the 10+ children?] believe that I should help support those children? I didn't beget them or bear them; what concern are they of mine? Is it virtuous to bring children into the world knowing that someone else must support them?
I'd love to go on, but I truly don't get it either side of your statement. I see no integrity in them, and no reason for my respect - or yours.
Your thoughts?
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Like many of us in the Gulch, though, I have spend most of my life being the 'one thing is not like the other' person in the room. I have come to realize that there are genuinely people whose intrinsic models of the universe are hugely different than mine.
Some of these people have become my close friends - they are flaming liberals. Nonetheless, they are gracious, generous with their own possessions, supportive, honest, intelligent and imaginative. How can this happen? How can so many blasted nice geniuses believe that because they are willing to give money to support people who do not work that it is OK for them to take my money to do the same? I am evolving some theories, but don't feel that I have this problem captured yet.
These people have my respect as individuals, because they have earned it over the course of decades.
Jan, the observer
So, you have 2 premises: that people with completely different views of the world from yours are "gracious...imaginative". Is this truly true? Are they indeed honest, for example? If you questioned them carefully and relentlessly, would they admit that yes, they do believe that it is a proper, moral, correct action to take from you, by force, to give to another. That person is not your friend.
Another premise is that these people are your friends. "Friend" is a serious word which I don't award to anyone lightly. I know my friends will have my back in any and every situation which might occur, with no hesitation - and that I would do the same for them. Is this true for you and your friends?
You might want to check these premises to assure yourself that they are true, that these people really are what you think they are. Try them with the hot-button issues of the day and consider their responses. I'll be interested to hear your results. Maybe they're secret Objectivists?
I have a brother, and as long as we talk about what a nice day it is, or how good dinner is, you would think we are friendly. We are not. He is a communist of the most rabid, non-thinking kind, and he is in fact my deadly enemy. Because he really does not think, I doubt he has ever had that thought. But I have, and I have absolutely no doubts about in which direction he will run, in what type of emergency. This is no longer as painful as it once was.
As I said, I'll be interested in what happens for you in this situation.
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The people to whom I refer, I have know for over 30 years. (I know: How unCalifornian of me!) They not only talk-the-talk of being friends, they walk-the-walk.
I too have relatives and other people I know who I cannot depend on to 'have my back', not because they do not have good will towards me - they do - but because their deeds make them untrustworthy. So I interact with them pleasantly, but do not rely on them.
If I have more thoughts or observations on this, I will be glad to discuss them further with you.
Jan
regards
ww
Jan
But forgot to fill them
Sent the food overseas
For a couple of billion
Now the kids are still starving
If the stories are true
But for sure the blame
Will fall on you!
Wonder who is going to house them?
Wonder who is going to educate them?
Wonder if they're criminals?
Wonder who is gonna pay?
The Pope chooses to sidestep all those wonders. Just do it! Never mind how or how much. It is the attitude of a child who wants what he wants when he wants it. Only with a polite soft-spoken voice. I think he might have to wait until They can have what we got when we get it.
this unholy debt, we may never "have what we got." -- j
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By endorsing the climate change mantra, Francis's actions will serve to keep the world's poor in place, waiting for manna to fall from the supposedly unending larder of the developed world, instead of developing their own infrastructure. By encouraging "refugees" seeking more affluence to overload the social systems of the developed world, he's inviting them to kill the goose that has laid the golden eggs that have kept them afloat.
His cowardice is most evident by his at best subtle, oblique "coded" criticism of abortion. This undoubtedly is his effort to technically adhere to the church's unequivocal stance against abortion, while trying not to upset the "holiday" Catholics and Obama. If he had the courage of JPII, he would have blasted the government for its support of Planned Parenthood.
The pope as a coward is a refreshing image and matched by many in our government.
It seems there are to many on this forum who have no sense of humor. I doubt that the pope has as much belief in jesus as I have in Arn Rand.
I get a very visceral reaction when I see the costumed one standing up there telling us what to do...
He wears a big hat. Nice knowing you...
Amen
http://www.speaker.gov/general/your-w...
... What is really important in DC is the photo-op where RINOs get to have their picture taken up on the podium, next to the pope! How could I "not" want to watch?
Olive Oyl not I'rish Muslin
http://westernjournalismcom.c.presscd...
I can't decide if it makes O look like the devil or a jack-ass.
Here's a translated little song that might help!
El burro
The Donkey
Rima de sorteo
Counting-out Rhyme
Warning do not pronounce Vowels with Latino accent they confuse b and v sound and it will come out frijoles
A, el burro se va,
E, el burro se fue,
I, el burro está aquí,
O, el burro se ahogó,
U, el burro eres tú.
A, The donkey's going away,
E, The donkey did flee,
I, The donkey is standing by,
O, The donkey drowned, oh no!
U, The donkey is you!
beautiful.
Ayn Rand said in 1980 when the pope was here the americans love celebrities.
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As Francis became more emphatic in pleading the cause of immigrants, bishops leaned forward and listened intently. ...
“The Church in the United States knows like few others the hopes present in the hearts of these pilgrims,” he said. “From the beginning you have learned their languages, promoted their cause, made their contributions your own, defended their rights, helped them to prosper, and kept alive the flame of their faith. Even today, no American institution does more for immigrants than your Christian communities.”
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It’s true. It used to be just the Catholic Church, now it’s all of them. The article continues:
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He said accommodating immigrants isn’t always easy at first. “... I am certain that, as so often in the past, these people will enrich America and its church.”
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Yes, it’s not always easy being enriched by some of today’s immigrants: http://ImmigrationsHumanCost.org/text...
The point is not that all Third World immigrants are violent criminals. The point is that a much higher percentage of them are violent criminals compared with the percentage in Galt’s Gultch Online. As you increase the percentage of Third World immigrants, you increase the per capita violent crime rate.
How about a debate between Pope Francis and Donald Trump. Since the Pope gives most of his U.S. talks in Spanish, Donald Trump could say to him Vamoose!
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