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  • Posted by Technocracy 9 years, 2 months ago
    On what basis do seniors believe that the government largesse (Medicare) must cover everything? Compared to most private insurance, Medicare is like winning the lottery already.
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      Posted by rentfrew 9 years, 2 months ago
      You sir are an idiot. I have been paying into social security/medicare since its inception. Social Security and Medicare is not a gift I payed for it and continue to pay monthly for my medicare. Do you get ins. for free? Cause I do not.
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      • Posted by Technocracy 9 years, 2 months ago
        I have been paying into them my entire working life as well. That still doesn't answer the question. My insurance costs me for myself and for you and everyone else on a government program. Since after all, the taxes taken from me go to the pool used to pay current expenses for the government, including medicare/medicaid/social security. It was always a ponzi scheme predicated on citizens not living long enough, in large enough numbers to bankrupt it. The money was never invested. It is todays taxes paying past expenses. Since you have been paying into it from inception it follows you helped vote in.

        Thank you for that /sarcasm

        So back to my question....

        Why do you expect it to cover every dime of expense?

        No other insurance does.

        Its a crappy situation for everyone, your attacking me doesn't change the situation one iota.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 9 years, 2 months ago
    Because it's really only there to suck funds from the aging, older generations through fraudulent medical diagnosis and treatment. If the money's not there, they don't care if you die.

    Glad I could help.
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    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 2 months ago
      So my Dad goes to a chiropractor while he's up north then when the pater and mater take the RV south for the winter. the one up North continues to bill one or both of the systems for weekly visits. Down south he goes to a different chiro... One or both paid for that one too. He tells the people in charge. They just laugh it off.
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      • Posted by $ Abaco 9 years, 2 months ago
        Yeah, it's all fraud.

        My dad is teetering on death this year due to over-vaccination, over medication...typical. Myasthenia gravis. I had to diagnose it, knowing his long love affair with vaccines. He was in ICU on a feeding tube recently - couldn't talk. The doctors just said, "Well, it looks like a stroke but we're not sure." They were just going to let him die until I handed the doctor a note with my diagnosis with, "Prove me wrong." Well, then they had to act. I was right and he's out and alive now. But, he'll be forever affected.

        The older generation in America is just seen as a resource bag by the medical/insurance establishment. Look at how many old folks routinely spend $7K or more, cash, at dentist visits. They almost all are on multiple pills. Known, expected medication reactions kill about 110,000 in this country every year. In my opinion, that's a little high.

        I'm all for profit. But, I'm also for honesty...still.
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  • Posted by ewv 9 years, 2 months ago
    A lack of more government payments is not "costing" patients anything. Patients pay less of their own medical care costs because Medicare subsidizes most of them. Private insurance has always been available, but Medicare is mandatory so private insurance coverage can now only be for costs not paid by Medicare.

    The "donut hole" refers specifically to the part of Medicare that pays for prescription drugs (initiated by Bush in 2006). That it doesn't pay everything is not a "cost" to the recipients of the government payments. Prior to Obamacare, prescription drug Medicare payments were for 75% of approved drug costs up to a total drug cost of $2,800 in a year (with the drug companies paying for "unapproved" costs). Patient costs beyond that and up to the limit for which the patient paid a total of $4,550 -- at which point Medicare subsequently paid 95% -- were called a "hole" or a "gap" because Medicare paid no subsidies between the 75% and 95% levels. The 25% or 5% paid by the patient were not called a "gap" or a "hole" but the promoters of incrementalist socialized medicine will get to that.

    Obamacare "fixed" the "hole" in 2010 by "phasing it out", i.e. increasing subsidies. Medicare pays more each year until 2020, at which point the subsidies are scheduled to be the full 75% or 95% with no unsubsidized "gap". This is done through a variety of schemes manipulating the bookkeeping for the Federal budget, starting with a $250 "rebate" in 2010, changing limits for the cutoffs, and various forced "discounts" paid by taxpayers, drug producers, and insurance companies -- all claimed to be "not a tax" until John Roberts decreed it to be a tax in his infamous Supreme Court decision rationalizing the "Constitutionality" of Obamacare.
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