Flu Hooey - How the CDC lies to overstate the benefits of flu shots
Posted by freedomforall 10 years, 9 months ago to Culture
hidden in the bowels of Table 10, the decomposition is found for the year 2010 — apparently taking three full years to count up all the carnage: a measly 500 deaths from influenza; 50,097 from pneumonia. That's ripe: 500 flu deaths, 50,097 pneumonia deaths (100 times more), and the CDC sticks 50,597 into its flu report. Is the flu vaccine lobby that powerful? And where's the pneumonia lobby? I want a pneumonia shot.
To some of us, grossly exaggerating influenza threats to expand public vaccination is a despicable approach to conducting a national influenza control and prevention program. But what's a little disease-mongering when you’re saving lives? And there is nothing like an occasional threat of an epidemic, better yet a pandemic, to win over anyone left undaunted by the flagrantly massaged mortality and morbidity statistics of mundane seasonal flu.
To some of us, grossly exaggerating influenza threats to expand public vaccination is a despicable approach to conducting a national influenza control and prevention program. But what's a little disease-mongering when you’re saving lives? And there is nothing like an occasional threat of an epidemic, better yet a pandemic, to win over anyone left undaunted by the flagrantly massaged mortality and morbidity statistics of mundane seasonal flu.
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I'm 64 and have never had a flu shot. Have I gotten sick from a flu in the past? Yes. But since I haven't taken them I have built up immunities, and can't remember the last time I caught the flu, even though everyone in my household caught it (up to 5).
if you don't trust the CDC, you have a simple solution: don't f--kin take it.
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A few years ago, my husband went through Atlanta when H1N1 was popping up, came home with it. Gave it to me. When I talked to our doctor, he said no, if we had nausea, it was not flu. I gave him an article saying it certainly was part of H1N1. I told him I was not coming in, as there were sick people in the office, and I could not take any of his anti-flu meds, as I was allergic to penicillin., That was the only flu I had in years, and we did survive it.
It is not just flu vaccines, it is cures for a lot of diseases which will never happen. Charter fund raising organizations for specific diseases collect billions of dollars to find cures, yet curing them would mean they would lose their charters and the billions that went with them. Follow the money.
the fact, you are more like to get the Flu in the 21st century than you were prior.
Is the vaccine effective? hard to say. Will it harm you?? I dunno.
If you live in rural America, I'd say you don't need it. If you have kids in public schools, or work with people with kids, I'd say you should consider it. The problem is, there are too damn people in the world and many are disgusting pigs.
I'd have less of a problem with the flu shot if I had trust in the government.
It does take into account that no vaccination is perfect.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=penn...
A 2012 Scientific American article addressed the paucity of evidence behind pretentious CDC vaccination claims. According to Cochrane Collaboration research referenced in the exposé, vaccines approved for children under the age of 2 “are not significantly more efficacious than placebo.” For older children, "the shot reduces the absolute risk that a child will catch the flu by about 3.6 percent, whereas the live (inhaled) vaccine reduces the absolute risk by about 17 percent."
Adults under 65 "have about a four percent chance of catching the flu if they don’t get the vaccine and about a one percent chance if they do."
For adults over 65, there is only one vaccine that has been shown to protect against infection or death, "an inhalable vaccine that contains a live, modified version of the virus [wait for it . . .] which is not approved in the U.S. for adults over age 50."
Regarding claims that vaccination slows the spread of flu virus, "there are no data showing that this is true."
As if it was needed.
Maybe there is a lurker who will understand: http://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/86/2...
And I've never gotten the vaccine since.
Yes. It's the most powerful lobby in American history. I know - I have cashed in on it.
"At times like these, when men's fat little comforts are threatened you can be sure that science is the first thing they abandon." I'm typing that out of memory. Anybody else remember it from Atlas Shrugged?
I also have the pleasure of testing my immune system weekly because my job (yes I am a producer like most on this site) takes me to different cities weekly in aluminum tubes with 130 of my closest (sic) friends with all kinds of crap. I think that has helped me build a pretty robust immunity to most flavors of flu. Anyway my point is if our society would take a look at lifestyle changes like getting off the couch or out of the video game chair the flu and other diseases might be less of a problem. diseases don't like heat and when move you body stays warmer hence less sickness. just my theory and experience.
Vaccines work. After improved environmental conditions (ie clean water/clean food) they are the major reason that our life spans have extended to the point that we are now running up against our life expectancies as our limiting factor. This was not the rule in prior eras: in Rome, the average plebeian life span was about 26 (a young man actually extended his probably life span by joining the military!); in the US in 1900 the average life span was about 45.
Antibiotics come right after vaccines in terms of saving lives.
Everyone has agenda; any tool can be misused...but medical technology has wrought wonders in our modern world. It should never be forced on anyone - but those people who make use of it should also be able to enjoy the benefits of their choices.
Jan
Hillary's plan?
This is not the same as saying there's a CDC conspiracy. The evidence still points to the vaccine being worthwhile, but it's not nearly as strong as I thought. It will be interesting to see what happens in future research.
Electrolytes?? Like Brawndo?
the FDA, USDA, and CDC were supposed to answer these questions for us and prevent us from buying snake oil (or Fish Oil). Now, we can't rely on them. All we have to go on is our gut feeling and preponderance of evidence from our own personal research. I don't think taking (natural) Fish Oil supplements will hurt you, the question is, does it do anything for you?
I tend to go with, eat a balanced diet and you should't need supplements.
BUT, if some sick ass sneezes on you - A flu shot might not be a bad idea, especially considering the designer BUGS we have now (or the ones the Chinese are manufacturing).
See http://www.webmd.com/vaccines/pneumococc...
I guess I’m just a tough cookie, or a gambler or maybe a bit of both. ;) I also am still thinking about this. It does look incredibly painful. I intend to make up my mind about this soon since I have hit the fifty-mark.
Jan
Jan
But you can certainly reduce the odds of getting it by: "Reduce Your Risk
In the United States, there are several vaccines that prevent infection by bacteria or viruses that may cause pneumonia. These vaccines include
•pneumococcal,
•Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib),
•pertussis (whooping cough),
•varicella (chickenpox),
•measles, and
•influenza (flu).
That's from: http://www.cdc.gov/Features/Pneumonia/
I know, I know, there is a knee jerk around here against the CDC. But, what if they are right?