Monocrats are all the same, yet we continue to be surprised.

Posted by coaldigger 10 years, 9 months ago to Government
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A King is just the figurehead (given the right to govern by god) of a governmental system called a Monarchy where everything belongs to the King (government). Communism/Socialism are just systems whereby everything belongs to the collective people. A Dictator is just a King who obtained his right to govern by force. They are all Monocrats. Most countries of the world are governed by some entity that does not recognize private ownership of anything. Stateists in the US, both from the left and right, beneath the facade of their claims of belief in Representative Democracy and Capitalism, are Monocrats no better than any of the others. It may be argued that this is not so, that there are examples of leaders in Russia, China, Iran and elsewhere that are much worse but it is because in those countries there were no countering forces like exist in the US, feeble though they may be.

Given the the underlying principle that the government owns everything, it is easy to understand the concepts of "living wages", guaranteed entitlements, universal healthcare and free education from preschool through college paid for from the revenue, unfairly retained by the rich. Most governmental discussions of tax policy are laced with the concept that ALL revenue belongs to the government and the amount that citizens retain is a benefit granted by and a cost to government. Dirty words like "Free Markets" and "Capitalism" are used to describe the means used by the greedy not to produce the wealth but to get an unfair share. All Monocrats believe that "wealth" is naturally occurring, provided by nature or God, is fixed in quantity and it is necessary for an authority to exist to divide it up for the collective good. Virtually all of our politicians believe this to some degree and the ones that don't have not been able to make their case.


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  • Posted by SolitudeIsBliss 10 years, 9 months ago
    I see the United States as an Oligarchy - Oligarchy (from Greek ὀλιγαρχία (oligarkhía); from ὀλίγος (olígos), meaning "few", and ἄρχω (arkho), meaning "to rule or to command")[1][2][3] is a form of power structure in which power effectively rests with a small number of people. These people could be distinguished by royalty, wealth, family ties, education, corporate, or military control. Such states are often controlled by a few prominent families who typically pass their influence from one generation to the next. But inheritance is not a necessary condition for the application of this term.
    The American Political system operates as such ! Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and all the other idiots are a perfect example and that's why it's important to give ALL OF THEM the boot !
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    • Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 9 months ago
      Keep it coming with the Greek (BTW - how'd you get the characters in there? Cut and paste from another program?)

      While I doubt the founding Fathers would be satisfied with the state of our modern politics, it is easy to see how the few maintain rule. All one has to do is look at the Bush family, John Kerry, Al Gore, the Kennedy family (includes Arnold Schwartzenneger who married a Kennedy), and many more. Money - rather than good ideas - is more commonly the ticket into national politics. How many of our current leaders were "groomed" for their Senate or House seats by virtue of well-connected beneficiaries? Nearly all of them, not least of these being our current President.
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    • Posted by $ Stormi 10 years, 9 months ago
      Yes, I too see the Oligarchy at work. I remember listening to an extremely long tape, British in origin, I believe, which talked about just that, and the connection to the Tavistock Inst. as a way of moving it forward. Conisder all the European families which make sure the wealth remains within the family. The Rockefellers in the US do the same, with holdings so hidden and complicated, a team of accountants each only know part of it. I think the ongoing importance of a Pelosi or Reed is fleeting, they are giants only for a moment and in their own minds. However, some political dynasties also control wealth as we see with the endless string of Rockefeller politicians. They see their right to own private property, but not the rights of the average Joe. The ruling class vs everyone else. They are not producers so much as entitlement inheriters.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 9 months ago
    Thank you for this post.

    "All Monocrats believe that "wealth" is naturally occurring, provided by nature or God, is fixed in quantity and it is necessary for an authority to exist to divide it up for the collective good."
    I think they probably would say "no" to this, but if you changed the wording a little, I bet many people in the public policy world would agree.

    It's like that saying, "these tax cuts will be very expensive."

    It's also like the saying "the president created jobs," or "jobs are being shipped abroad," as if jobs were things created by the gov't and rationed out.

    There's also the saying that "I can't succeed in this economy", as if the economy were some magical entity rather than people coming together to help each other in trades.

    They see it, as you say, as being about greed. But money is made when you do something that gives people a product or service they want.

    The average person in public policy would say, "oh yes, yes, of course," but not really think about how little decisions like my wife creating a system to help people with paperwork and then training an associate attorney on the system IS the economy. It's not some magical thing out there controlled by politicians.
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  • Posted by illucio 10 years, 9 months ago
    Very Interesting use of Words. Definitely the examples show us that there are no two ways to go, that balance is the key for a future understanding. And balance has been shattered. Socialism works, let´s not get our panties up or down. But when the state is a must, for the extreme conditions demand it. Finland, Sweden and other countries are an example of this, where you need heated streets and other measures. Too extreme for me, I may say so, but not all socialism is bad. When the pack is definitely stronger as a team than as a concept, well then socialism is the way to go. These countries, again, show that when put into good use the common wealth really does exist. But hey, few countries in the world are in their conditions.

    Capitalism is honest, up front and the most human system of economy there is. When socialist viewpoints are pinned, then what seems fair on paper is truly unfair in reality. Yes, why should the rich pay more than the poor? If it´s only because "they can" then reason has been lost. It may seem fair that if I apply a percentage to taxes, then we all contribute what we can. But hey, that should also give me more rights than others than. Like, if my contribution is 1000% greater than John Doe´s than, I should not have to wait in line at the DMV, to say the least.

    It´s all very complex and confusing, and that´s where John Doe is fooled and convinced more easily than others. When health care, roads, education and whatnot is cheaper to me than it actually costs, well then I become a looter. And well, conditions actually permit this to be and be those who actually are paying more are really sustainning these Doe´s and the system as well. This is a fact. Henry James passed an interesting idea once about taxes, unifying all in one concept that, though goes against the idea of private property at some point (in a real estate eye), it litterally defends it in every other way. He came up with the idea that the only tax should be on the land and it´s use, period. In Great Britain, home of the great Smith and other free thinkers, leasing and some of Henry James´ ideas are put more into practice than in the states.

    Imagine, use of land by the acre or the square footage. If it´s for residential use, the value is low. If it´s for commercial use, it gets higher. Depending on how it uses the land you see. Land, that midevil craving of the more, the richer. We all know that land itself has up to a certain amount of value. But we forget what the land produces, the riches it has. Not only gold, oil or cotton; but space, exclusivity and freedom. So Johnny pays for his residential rights, and Mister Rockefeller for the exploits he has everywhere on the land. Then, the buildings, the oil, the gold, the shares, the banks, the actions, the cars, the plains, etc. Well, they´re all tax free. Those assets, though obtained by a fine line called heritage, are private property and therefor should pay no taxes what soever. Dunno, just ramblin on...
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  • Posted by Danno 10 years, 9 months ago
    Nowhere else in Nature do we see the Centralism Phenomenon exhibited by the Human animal. The event on the North African coast with rich Omega-3 diet was a one-timer that allowed the ape to progress to a more complex brain. Since all species eventually go extinct Nature will breath a sigh of relief when the Human leaves the stage.
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    • Posted by 10 years, 9 months ago
      I won't quibble about the evolutionary path by which today's species of apes and humans split from a series of creatures no longer with us but the human brain and it's complexity leads to many things that does not otherwise occur in nature. The ability to contemplate one's own death and to theorize/wish for an alternative is possibly the greatest barrier to the development of a rational system of civic organization. IF one were to believe that the entire existence for oneself is in this life, we would be much more interested in individual rights and the protection of those rights and the property associated with them. The degree to which one believes in an afterlife as a reward for contributions to the good of all mankind it is possible to form associations based on sacrifice. There will always be those that will take advantage of the altruists to acquire power and that chink in the armor of man allows him to be a slave. The belief in a single individual life for each of us inoculates us to the slave mentality. Government is FORCE. An organization of society that limits the use of force to the protection of individual rights would not have the reach nor be given the means of putting producers in bondage. A stronger clamp on creativity and production will aid in humans leaving the stage and Nature will be undisturbed by rational beings for a long time.
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  • Posted by SpiritMatter 10 years, 9 months ago
    I would like to take the logical thought process back to a more basic foundational level where the tree of life and liberty has its roots. Our ability to be free comes out of our ability to know and understand the truth and then use the truth wisely. I define basic truth as simply the accurate description of reality. If there is a Creator, reality is simple the result of the Creator's will. The Creator said the Creation was good. The force that exists between you and the earth is a reality and is Creator made. The accurate description of that force is the truth. Using that description as the definition of the word gravity is the truth and is man made. Hunan rights have meaning only in a social relationship structure of at least two intelligent beings, you and the Creator or you and your neighbor. If you are alone on an island without any other being interacting with you, rights have no significant meaning unless maybe you are schizophrenic. Whatever human rights we have are only meaningful if they are endowed by the greatest power and are enforced. If there is a Creator, that Creator determines what rights we have and if there is no Creator, the individual or group with the most power will determine it and enforce it. If the Creator exists and has endowed humans with rights, how can we find that out?

    First look at the physical world around you. If there is a Creator it would make sense that the creation could be a witness to the mind, thoughts and way of the Creator. The state of the physical and biological worlds are determined primarily by might. What ever force or animal has the greatest power has the greatest control over the current state of it's sphere of effect or control. There is no right or wrong here, just reality. The creation could be used as a model for structuring human social relationships. The result would be the principle that might makes/determines right. This is the model that Cain chose and the authoritarians have chosen ever since Adam and Eve rejected the Creator's judgments and chose to make their own. These judgments are what the Christ called the commandments of men that make the commandments of God of no effect. Another model can be developed based on the Creator's use of the creation to benefit or harm humans. The Creator seems to follow a rule similar to Star Trek's Star Fleet prime directive of non-interference in the development of any society of intelligent beings. Adam and Eve were left ignorant of the abilities of the Creator and thought they could hide behind a plant. The Creator had the power to stop them before they ate of the forbidden fruit but chose not to. This revealed a right to choose that the Creator seems to have endowed them. The Creator warned them of the results of their choice which would be their suffering or benefitting from their choice. The Christ pointed out the Creator's witness in the creation that all humans good or bad have been endowed by the Creator with equal rights by pointing out that the sun and rain bless both the good and bad and not just the good. Israel and the nations that interacted with it are a special case. They can not be used as an example and the reason would make this already too long comment even longer. The model that the Creator has revealed for a Godly human society is based on equal rights and mutual respect/love for all humans.

    Kings, aristocracies, oligarchies, dictatorships, democratic majorities are all authoritarian social structures based on the superior/inferior rights paradyme. Authoritarians try to claim it is the way that God has chosen for humans but it is not. It is the way of man under the influence and deception of satan who has deceived the whole world. Some individual or group because of their sex, race, religion or superior talent, intelligence, knowledge, wealth, power, etc. has a superior right to rule and control an inferior individual or group. Under the might makes right way of Cain, whoever has the greatest power is able to enjoy their claim to superior rights.

    The Founding Fathers chose the Godly way and model of equal rights based on the Creator's/the Christ's commandment that we love/respect our neighbors and our selves equally. If this Godly model and principle were fully implemented, the overwhelming majority of social conflicts between spouses, parents/children, neighbors, states and nations would be resolved.
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 10 years, 9 months ago
    Yes. I like the analogy of children receiving an allowance. Clearly it is unjust for one child to receive more of this causeless benefit than another. Many people seem never to get beyond this level in their understanding of economics or how the world works or "should" work.

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    Posted by rlewellen 10 years, 9 months ago
    Actually Ayn Rand was an antichrist anti bill of rights money worshiping ;propagandist set on making everyone replaceable, and indistinguishable. She was a monocrat of the worst kind.
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    • Posted by mccannon01 10 years, 9 months ago
      Rlewellen, have you ever read anything Rand wrote?
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      • Posted by Timelord 10 years, 9 months ago
        I had this same thought after reading every single of rlewellen's comments. He or she seems to be completely unfamiliar with Rand's writings, OR he or she does not believe that words have meaning so that things you read can mean whatever you want them to!
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      • Posted by rlewellen 10 years, 9 months ago
        I read the Ayn Rand lexicon and Atlas Shrugged I think I may throw out Anthem it's only money.
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        • Posted by mccannon01 10 years, 9 months ago
          Feel free to discard anything of yours you no longer want. You seem to be obsessed with money or rather the fear that others may have an obsession with it. You remind me of the old adage of the Puritan. That is, the poor fellow never got a good nights sleep because he was constantly worrying that someone somewhere was having a good time.
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    • Posted by 10 years, 9 months ago
      This post creates the same feeling I would get while walking quietly by the doors of inmates in an asylum and inadvertently waking one of the more violent patients. Perhaps I don't understand it but it is also possible the response is due to the fact that the Polish translation of my post was garbled and unintelligible.
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    • Posted by $ sjatkins 10 years, 9 months ago
      Well, she was anti-stupidity, anti-irrationality and anti-hatred of the good for being good. If you think that makes one an "antichrist" then you should question whether being for this Christ is actually good - at least in the way you seem to be taking it.

      Rand was very very pro-distinguishing actual differences in people and in distinguishing reality generally. She never ever said any person can be replaced with another.

      Go read what she actually wrote and think on it before saying such obviously misinformed things.
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    • Posted by $ WillH 10 years, 9 months ago
      Then why are you here and supporting the site as a Producer? Did Hiraghm hack your account and type that?

      Seriously, she was an athiest, but the Antichrist? That's one toke over the line.
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    • Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 9 months ago
      I think you've got the wrong term there. Ayn Rand was openly critical of organized religion and treated it with contempt, but she didn't limit her scorn to Christianity - she was an equal opportunity critic. And she didn't do so to prop herself up as a substitute - at least as far as I can tell.

      Rand - just like everyone else - chose to see the world in her own terms. She took a fairly radical approach to such and chose to focus on money as a status symbol: that wealth could be used as a measure of productiveness. She then placed this in context of a society based wholly on the market. She came from a society where the true market was underground - both empirically and socially and where government control of everything had doomed it to a haven for the politically connected, so one shouldn't ignore her history when evaluating her view of the world.
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