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Time For Conservatives To Get Medieval On The Liberal Establishment

Posted by Eudaimonia 9 years, 3 months ago to Politics
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Some quotes from the piece:

"When these bloodstained collectivists lose, humanity wins."

"The public employee unions were his enemy, and he went for their collective collectivist throat."

You might not agree with his passion, or his approach, or his point of view...
but he know we are fighting collectivists, and he is down for the fight.
SOURCE URL: http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2015/08/03/time-for-conservatives-to-get-medieval-on-the-liberal-establishment-n2033516


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  • Posted by $ rainman0720 9 years, 3 months ago
    "We either win or we are going to be enslaved to the metastasizing progressive monster forever."

    Sorry if I seem like a pessimist, but he's too late. We have lost. The establishment is built to survive, to maintain itself.

    Regardless of how I feel about their politics, there just aren't enough "outsiders" like Trump or Ventura to make a difference.

    The establishment is too firmly entrenched, and too focused on keeping itself entrenced in perpetuity.

    I'd like to be wrong, but there's no real indication that I might be. Oh, there are the people here, but we just don't wield enough power or influence to make any difference. Even if (or when) some people are elected who would take the stand that Kurt Schlicter advocates, they'd be slapped down (see McConnell, Mitch and Boehner, John) and stripped of any power or influence.

    I'll shut up now and stop the doom and gloom.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 3 months ago
    It is way past time to go medieval.
    This is why Trump is being cheered on.
    The Donald is not about playing nice.
    The image of a knight slinging a flail on a dark horse just entered old dino's head.
    That knight ain't at all shiny either.
    Evil lib blood splashes all over the place.
    Oorah! Down with the Marxist masters!
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  • Posted by $ prof611 9 years, 3 months ago
    "twisted death cult", "bloodstained collectivists" - I think it's high time we quit using epithets like these to describe advocates of Planned Parenthood. Admitedly, some of them went WAY overboard in those video clips. BUT the majority of PP advocates are not "murderers". They simply believe, as do I, that life does not begin until the fetus can survive outside the womb - and hence abortion is not murder until that point in time.
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    • Posted by ycandrea 9 years, 3 months ago
      I totally disagree! I have seen for myself that 20 and 24 week old babies survive outside the womb at a neonatal facility. And it has been proven that some of these babies are born alive at PP and are brutally killed for their parts. What is happening at Planned Parenthood is a sign of our times of what we as a human race have degenerated into. We accept the killing of our young for money. Plain and simple.
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      • Posted by ycandrea 9 years, 3 months ago
        I just do not want my money paying for what they do. PP should not get gov't money. They should stand alone like any other business. But, I have no choice, so the point is moot.
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      • Posted by $ prof611 9 years, 3 months ago
        If you really have seen what you claim in your 2nd sentence, then life has already begun at that time, and abortion is murder. Since we agree, what is your problem? However, I still maintain that the majority of PP advocates are not murderers, so let's deal with the bad PPs seperately, and not smear the whole organization..
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    • Posted by cowboynuclear 9 years, 3 months ago
      Completely understand the feelings about the language, but not the logic behind that "belief", and here in the Gulch I thought that logic is supposed to lead "belief".

      The problem with the dividing line they've chosen is that it ("viability") cannot be determined well medically by anyone. Is it when the heart forms and beats? When it has the start of limbs? Heck, natural causes can cause termination right up to and through the point of delivery and throughout life. So trying to find that dividing line of "viability" outside the womb is trying to rope the wind. The logical dividing line - to me - of the gestation cycle is the point at which "it" can become a functioning human being, given all natural process factors fall like dominoes into place. That line occurs sometime between the two zygotes meeting, the mixing of genetic materials, and the first cell replication.

      After that first cell replication either that "tissue mass" becomes a functional human being or natural causes take it out. Using artificial means is tipping the scales. It takes what could become a functional human being logically and terminates it artificially and before its natural course. Is that murder? Is it murder at 40? Is it murder at 20? 2? 1 minute? Minus 1 minute? Minus 6 months?

      I am not a religious believer. I am a scientist turned computer geek. I'm not using any biblical texts, just biology and logic. As the saying goes, A is A. If others can find the flaw in this logical path, please tell me.
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    • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 3 months ago
      I agree with prof611 both in that inflamed rhetoric does not make a good argument and in that most of what PP is actually good. If individuals at PP are murdering infants who meet the definition of human, then they can and should be tried for infanticide. But that is not what people are anguished about - they are upset about the sale of parts of already dead embryos.

      Planned Parenthood should not receive any gov funds, though. The gov should be no more in the business of making abortions than they should be in the business of running your healthcare.

      Jan
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      • Posted by ycandrea 9 years, 3 months ago
        I do not understand. The embryos were not "already dead" until they were killed by PP. They are killed in the womb because PP wants access to the entire baby and it's parts. They are completely formed babies and some can survive outside the womb with our modern technology. So how can it be said they were "already dead" when that just is not so? I do not understand the logic. Sorry.
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        • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 3 months ago
          There is a definition of what constitutes a legal abortion. If what PP did meets that definition, then it is not murder.

          If you would like to discuss what that definition is vs what it should be, then this is something that I sometimes think about - but is a different question than the emotionally-charged one of PP selling the organs of aborted embryos for scientific or medical purposes.

          Jan
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          • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 3 months ago
            What is "legal" is not always right.
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            • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 3 months ago
              And we can certainly discuss various opinions on how to make 'legal' come more into agreement with 'right'.

              I do not have a problem with abortions under the current legal definition and I find that the outrage I am reading is aimed at the callousness of selling fetal tissue to the highest bidder...which is just silly. The embryo is already dead - go ahead and make the best use possible of the tissue in it.

              Jan
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    • Posted by Mamaemma 9 years, 3 months ago
      Or maybe some believe as I do that abortion is murder at any time, but I still want abortion to be available to those who need it.
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      • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 3 months ago
        And that is what I think too - if someone thinks that abortion is murder at any time then they should not be forced to have an abortion. For people who think that early term abortions are OK but late term abortions are not, then there needs to be - and is - a legal definition of abortion. (They can always decide NOT to have an abortion; the law is to prevent someone from having an abortion really late term.)

        Jan
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 3 months ago
    There is no doubt that we are the verge of a truly life or death battle. So, where are all those battling Knights who were eager for battle? Looks like most of them are hiding under their desks and only come out to tell those who are actually in the arena that they're going too far.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 3 months ago
    ...William Shakespeare's Julius Caesar: "Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war"
    The liberal establishment long ago committed itself to warfare. It has had the guile to avoid an open declaration... the loyal opposition must face the facts and respond accordingly.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago
    I can't but will have to wait for tonight when the band width is more available to read the article. But I liked the choice of quotes. That is a good opening to a serious and too often swept under the rug subject.

    Assuming it's about abortion which is all that popped up medieval folks had not need. Infant mortality was high enough and those that made to soldier size had the usual never ending series of wars or predators to deal with.

    To the side I noted the laugh of the day....Biden ramping up! Could they have meant vamping?
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