Would Midas Mulligan welcome a Bunny Ranch in the Gulch?

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Dennis Hof owns business licenses for the majority of brothels in Nevada. He discusses his business model in the above interview with Reason. And here is his presentation to Oxford University. (Should be a TEDx talk IMO(: ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAW3KSXv8...
SOURCE URL: http://reason.com/reasontv/2014/01/15/moonlite-bunny-ranchs-dennis-hof-on-pros


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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 10 months ago
    winterwind referred to this quote yesterday and I think it's appropriate here-
    “Love is blind, they say; sex is impervious to reason and mocks the power of all philosophers. But, in fact, a man’s sexual choice is the result and the sum of his fundamental convictions. Tell me what a man finds sexually attractive and I will tell you his entire philosophy on life. Show me the woman he sleeps with and I will tell you his valuation of himself. No matter what corruption he’s taught about the virtue of selflessness, sex is the most profoundly selfish of all acts, an act which he cannot perform for any motive but his own enjoyment–just try to think of performing it in a spirit of selfless charity!–an act which is not possible in self-abasement, only in self-exaltation, only in confidence of being desired and being worthy of desire.” Atlas Shrugged
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 10 months ago
    So I've been waiting for all you Objectivists to make a reasoned out response. Since there have been none, thusfar, let me offer one up.
    1) Would MM view sex as immoral? No.
    2) Would MM view sex between two consenting adults as immoral? No.
    3) Since an Objectivist is also atheist, there would be no religious overtones about coveting and such.
    4) Would MM view the exchange of physical pleasure for some monetary remuneration as a fair deal? Yes, so long as both parties entered into the act knowingly and willingly.
    Given these statements, I would think that MM would say that morality regarding sex comes from those who participate. If a couple espouses to one another a desire to maintain monogamy with one another, then the only moral behavior is to stay faithful, which would eliminate a certain portion of the overall populace. For others, either not attached or in an "open" relationship, it would seem to be a moral activity, thus, yes, MM would allow a brothel in the Gulch.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years, 10 months ago
    I would not object to its presence. I don't know what Rand would say. I can find no references... It is not for me. I wouldn't pay for it. I feel as if it is a mutual exchange. Of course, I like to think I give as well as I receive. Is that not already fair exchange? :P
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 10 months ago
    if you stay within the romantic framework of the story, I don 't see gulchers choosing that service.
    Sex is an expression of values just as man cannot be cut off from his ideas when he takes a physical action. Sex should be an expression of self -esteem. Do you see Francisco or Hank paying for sex? I can see some expression of art - erotica in a play or movie or show.
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    • Posted by richrobinson 10 years, 10 months ago
      I think gulchers would use this service. Many producers become singular of purpose. Their drive leaves little time for relationships. If a man could satisfy his sexual desire without the complications of a relationship that would mean more time to work on whatever drives them.
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      • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 10 months ago
        Which reminds me of the scene in AS where Hank and Lillian are "romantically engaged" and Lillian (perfectly portrayed by Rebecca Wisocky) looks up at Hank and asks, "Done, dear?" That is prostitution under the guise of marriage. Lillian provides the physical release that Hank requires, and Hank provides the material goods that Lillian requires.
        btw - I hope Rebecca is back - anyone seen the cast list?
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      • Posted by khalling 10 years, 10 months ago
        this is kinda interesting. db read a study where they questioned men and women on their levels of promiscuity. They found that men on average were more promiscuous than women. BUT, if you have a larger group of promiscuous men than women who are they promiscuous with? Turns out there is a small group of women who are VERY promiscuous compared to men overall.
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      • Posted by khalling 10 years, 10 months ago
        lol
        Rand would disagree, but I don't know that I do. If I were Dagny, I think I'd not have sex unless I desired someone that I knew. maybe this a man/woman kind of thing or not. I can't imagine having sex with someone I had no interest in knowing. Most men I know would disagree with me on this point. But in my experience, not most women.
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        • Posted by richrobinson 10 years, 10 months ago
          Men in general can see sex as a physical act and most women see it as an emotional act. Dagny is difficult to figure because she is so strong. Do you think the fact her character was created in 1957 makes a difference?
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    • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 10 months ago
      Hank DID pay for sex.
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      • Posted by khalling 10 years, 10 months ago
        I do not buy into marriage is an arrangement of sex for money
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        • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 10 months ago
          Are you talking intent or practice? He screwed Lillian; Lillian only put up with it for the nice things his money could get for her.

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          • Posted by khalling 10 years, 10 months ago
            Intent generally or in a specific marriage?
            There are many people who spend most of their time trying to destroy others maliciously. It gives them power and makes them feel smart if they can psychologically or physically control another:The professor who purposely obfuscates the truth and grades accordingly, the politician who votes for regulations he knows will harm those regulated, the President sworn to uphold the Constitution who in fact tries to tear it down.
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          • Posted by khalling 10 years, 10 months ago
            I disagree. She also had the perversion of getting satisfaction for undermining Hank at every turn. She was not unhappy, she was an operator.
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            • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 10 months ago
              careful; your description of Lillian is starting to sound like mine.

              Nevertheless, as far as the sex act was concerned, Lillian was trading Hank value for value.
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  • Posted by $ WillH 10 years, 10 months ago
    Why not? Sounds like the man runs his business, and is successful at it. Those with moral or religious beliefs that prohibit them from indulging are free to go somewhere else. I see no issue with it at all.
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