Talk about Police Militarization!

Posted by Zero 9 years, 5 months ago to Culture
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Probably wanna throw that little fish back!

(Came across this one - had to share. I love Texans but damn! - they're another breed entirely!)


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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 5 months ago
    Looks like those fishermen catching illegal sea mackerel had better watch out. What's the caliber of those guns? It seems like they just might do some harm to human flesh.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 5 months ago
    This is a ho hum been there for over a decade common site in any coastal port which accepts major type ships or has a military presence. Started after 911. Our ship docked down river from New Orleans and yes drift anglers who could not read the signs were warned away. San Diego, Long Beach, San Francisco Bay, Seattle and the Puget Sound and up by the refineries north of Seattle, Corpus Christi, Houston, Beaumont, Mississippii River, Pensacola, Tampa, Key West, Charleston SC, Cape Fear, NC, Most of the Chesapeake, Sandy Hook at the Fear Pier. etc. etc. etc.Pearl Harbor not to exclude the 50th, Vietnam used a different type of boat - there is one in our local marina - Uniflites.

    I was stopped just across the Cape Fear re-entering the ICW and checked for SOLAS, licensing and evidence of a recent safety class. My answer ? one a week every week at sea and poroduced my Coast Guard papers. Have a nice day Sir. ALL of them had machine gun mounts. Most has mounted machine guns.
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    • Posted by 9 years, 5 months ago
      For game wardens? Really?
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      • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 5 months ago
        The initial use of that type of water craft were for the military to patrol water approaches. Later on the Coast Guard acquired some and still later various other agencies. Game wardens in the federal government are now Park Police and Forest Rangers are also a police force. Then came the States and then the local constabulary if they could show a need. I see them now in other countries. Very popular. The next level up looks like a huge inflatable but the taxes are closed cell foam. Ever since 2001. Not all carry medium or heavy machine guns. H&K in 9mm popular. Don't know why it's just a substandard .38 round.) Nothing to get worked up about. That was a decade ago. Now it's fact.
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      • Posted by IIGeo2 9 years, 5 months ago
        The Mosquitos are this BIGGGGGGGGGGGGG in Texas, and drink pesticide for breakfast! The vest barely stop them from getting eaten alive! You heard of the Chupa Cahbra? Yeah its a Texas mosquito! Mystery solved!

        The issue is transnational drug cartels who could almost outmatch our military in the region as far as firepower. They don't stop to ask hey are you a forest ranger before they shoot. Texas parks are a major entryoint for all types of serious and very deadly criminals. This is what really needs to be addressed.
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        • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 5 months ago
          First mosquitos. In Alaska the mosquitos walk up and kiss full grown turkeys on the lips without bothering to use their wings. Texas is ranked third after Louisiana which after all is all swampland. Except perhaps for Beaumont.

          Back to Texas and Mexico. Murder rate in Houston 12 per 100,000. Texas 6 per 100,000. National Average about 3 per 100,000.

          Number of gringos living in Mexico six to 12 months of the year and almost none with in fifty miles of the border about one million. 200,000 in the Guadalajara area alone. Number of deaths per one hundred thousand less than three.

          North of the border I carry. South of the border there is no need as long as you use common sense and stay out of their version of Chicago or LA and the fifty mile border zone!!!

          The cartel wars have dropped since their high point some years ago and since the Attorney General quit running guns. I threw that last one in. Down here the cartels don't need to be heavily armed Mexican citizens have no weapons. They also have no money to afford drugs. For that the dealers wait in places like Cabo San Lucas where the ATMs spit out US twenties. Most of us skip places like Mazatlan and Acapulco although the law enforcement is old style Las Vegas provided I believe by the cartels and law enforcement who don't wish the flow of dollars interrupted.

          Sources were the latest available information from the various US Agencies including State Department although I would fact check them with Cato Institute these days.

          FAR more dangerous in the USA than the USM.

          The cartels have nowhere near the fire power of the US Military. To the best of my knowledge they aren't being used in the border protection nor drug curtailment effort. One Bradley with a 25mm chain gun is a cartelistas wet dream. An attack helicopter comes to mind. Funny though. They aren't being used or used all that much for the moment in any wars for a change. Their brief is enemies foreign and domestic. Posse Comitatus Act allows the States to request military assistance and they have their own National Guard unit's. Maybe Obeyme is waiting to make a big splash in the legacy building phase???? Or maybe the fix is in fro the Glitterati supporters of the left? Lots of questions there. just plain reconnaisance patrolling the border for one thing leaving encounters to the Border patrol. ????
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          • Posted by IIGeo2 9 years, 5 months ago
            The problem is that the National Guard is there as observers only. The BP has literally been disarmed and refocused to traditionally Customs awork. What people forget is that US Customs lost several lawduits for abuse of power, racial profiling etc..., now they are running the show in the combined Immigration and customs enforcement mission and just what I have seen in You Tube has me horrified. under US INS this would never have happened.

            But I agree the Mosquitos are probably bigger in Alaska thats why the Moose are so big because natural selection did that so the Mosquitos would carry them off so easily. But I heard they do. But Chuck Norris can still kill them by just looking at them poor things just have a heart attack. Last time an Alaskan osquitto was killed like that I heard it took out the bridge to nowhere LOL!
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            • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 5 months ago
              last week i sucked it up and crossed the border twice north and south. the BP was wearing body armor, helmets with all the swat type gear BUT the uniform was green not black - a welcome change. What they wear once you get out of sight of the border crossings is another question

              Utube? Anybody can put anything on utube. Utube has me horrified..
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              • Posted by IIGeo2 9 years, 5 months ago
                They still wear green LOL. But what I saw was a few first person videos windows getting smashed in people tazed and then they get the oooppps, I guess you didn't have drugs letter. And mpst law enfrocement wear body armor the general ule is the vest needs to be able to stop the round from the gun that they carry.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 years, 5 months ago
    This is a waste of money and either supports bad behavior, or is indicative of an attitude consistent with bad behavior on the part of police (whatever kind of police.)

    No police force need machine guns, period. Maye, maybe, maybe SWAT teams need full auto, but I even doubt that have any value.

    This militarization of police is consistent with the abuses people assert are racially motivated, but I strongly argue the abuses are just a leading indicator because of the high interaction with police in higher crime, poorer areas.
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    • Posted by DrZarkov99 9 years, 5 months ago
      Urban police are trying to reduce their presence in areas where they've been accused of racist enforcement. The result? Baltimore, Detroit, Chicago, New York have all seen double digit increase in violent criminal activity, and those neighborhoods are now pleading for the cops to come back.
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      • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 5 months ago
        Why not? The Governor of California referered to Crips and Bloods as partners in law enforcement. Why should the 99% good cops risk their lives when the one percent bad citizens have the situation well in hand.? According to the Governor of California.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 9 years, 5 months ago
    Well, when you are chasing those anglers with a six-pack and without a license, you have expect the worst. Besides, they like to get all dressed up and feel important.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years, 5 months ago
    Properly armed Border patrol? Like the one our 'Federal' government was supposed to provide under the constitution? Yah, they are different, They stand up for their rights and Humanity. That is why the left has concentrated their perverse efforts there.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 5 months ago
    police should have weapons and gear and tactics
    and strategy at least one step ahead of the evildoers
    whom they face, on the job. . since I tend to over-
    estimate evildoers, I would ask others to determine
    this. . like our marketplace team, Wheatley. -- j
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