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She's an extremist???

Posted by AmericanGreatness 9 years, 6 months ago to Politics
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So terrorists attempt to kill hundreds of Americans at a CARTOON contest on US soil, and the organizer of the event is the extremist???

Texas: 2... terrorists: 0
SOURCE URL: http://news.yahoo.com/cartoon-contest-organizer-known-inflammatory-rhetoric-183405639.html


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  • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 6 months ago
    Bait and shoot.

    There should be a plethora of these contests...with police units undercover near each of them. This is an effective way to eliminate only the Muslims who are extremists: If you attack the contest, you get dead.

    Jan, fond of Darwinism
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    • Posted by MinorLiberator 9 years, 6 months ago
      Hmmm...I hope my somewhat conservative friend from a suburb of Detroit doesn't see this. I had a hard time convincing him that leaving his keys in his unlocked Corvette and hiding in the bushes nearby with a high-powered rifle and Bang! might get him into some legal difficulties... ;-)
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 6 months ago
    Hello AmericanGreatness,
    The 1st amendment would have no purpose if it were not to protect unpopular, provocative and antagonistic speech. Popular, benign speech needs no such protection. Who are the real provocateurs and antagonists? Those that would exercise their outrage at attacks on their rights by expression, cartoons or satire or those that would use force, attack and behead hundreds of Christians and others because they do not bend to their beliefs? If you wish to live in America you must tolerate free but unpopular speech. Physical force is another thing altogether.

    It is true that Ms. Geller was provocative, but her gathering was in reaction to a trend of anti-free speech movements in this regard. http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/02/1...

    Sometimes it is better to leave a sleeping dog lie. I would not be so provocative, but she has the right.

    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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    • Posted by 9 years, 6 months ago
      OA,

      I think you may have mixed my post with "number6". I completely agree that unpopular speech is the reason for the 1st Amendment. Speech that everyone agrees with needs no protection.

      Geller did not poke a sleeping dog. Radical Islam has become a rabid attack dog, and it needs to be put down. How pathetic an ideology must it be to be threatened by cartoons and women showing their faces?

      These events are necessary to demonstrate with a unbridled confidence that western civilization will not cower when challenged by savages.
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      • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 6 months ago
        Hello AmericanGreatness,
        I intended my comment to be a general thesis on the subject. It was not addressed or intended as a criticism to you. My apologies for the lack of clarity. I quite agree with you on who is the most radical and incendiary party.
        Respectfully,
        O.A.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 9 years, 6 months ago
    Was that Islamic Community Center going to be
    built at private expense, or public?
    (I haven't seen the video. I don't usually watch
    videos on the library computer, too much hassle
    about headphones, etc).
    I read the short article at "Galt's Gulch". I
    certainly cannot agree with her on all points, for
    instance, prohibiting "devout Muslims" (who de-
    cides, for instance, what is devout?--&what a-
    bout Amendment #1?) from joining the military;
    still, she makes some good points. Anyway, the
    attackers have no room to talk about "extrem-
    ism". And look at the violence!
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    • Posted by MinorLiberator 9 years, 6 months ago
      You bring up a good point about "devout Muslims" and the First Amendment. But I think the problem here is that, even though the current Administration chooses to ignore it, we are in a "state of war", as Locke would put it, with Islam, i.e., devout Muslims. While I may grant that "most Muslims are peaceful", they are only peaceful insofar as they are not devout. Their religion does call for our destruction. I'm not sure who would decide, but I would guess that during WW II the Army had no problem with German-Americans signing up to fight, but there was probably some effort to screen out "devout Nazis" from joining. It wouldn't be perfect, but anything that would prevent another Ft. Hood massacre by a "devout Muslim" works for me. (Oh, I'm sorry...that was "workplace violence"...)...
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  • Posted by GaryL 9 years, 6 months ago
    It is all about tolerance! We should tolerate watching them saw off the heads of innocent Christians while they can't tolerate a cartoon depiction of their God!
    What we need here is more intolerance of their radical beliefs!
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  • Posted by starznbarz 9 years, 6 months ago
    This is a comment I posted in another place on a different, but very similar subject - sometimes the dog must be poked so others can see it IS an animal. I leave it to you all to take it as you will: "There is a place for hate, there is a need for hate. Not hate of MOST people - some have earned it, some deserve nothing less than a full measure of hate, sometimes it is the only way we can do the things that must be done; but a hate of actions, tactics and the deliberate bastardization of righteous things to force people to capitulate. Fight with your convictions, fight with the truth - and if you are left NO OTHER option, fight with a blind hate to accomplish the defeat of a greater hate -the wanton slaughtering of innocents and ways of life. Ultimately, the only thing that stops a bully is when it is their blood on their shirt."
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 6 months ago
    Of course. America's chickens coming home to roost and all that.
    [/sarcasm]

    What is most telling to me about this is that there has been made mockery of every other religion - from portraits with dung and bottles of human waste to broadway musicals and HBO specials. But you didn't see those targeted religions or ideologies turn to violence.
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 9 years, 6 months ago
    Sadly but by today's standards she is an extremist. It is considered extreme to draw a line in the sand and to ACTUALLY hold to that line.

    Is she wrong? NO! Do I support her? ABSOLUTELY!
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 6 months ago
    Not only should Geller be encouraged, Islamic leaders should join her in her anti Jihad riffs. Based on what is known about contributions to her organization, it appears to be less than spit in the ocean. Unlike the Jihadists, she only tells the truth. Compare that to any speech given by representatives of radical Islam,.Provacative? Yes, but that is exactly what free speech is all about.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 9 years, 6 months ago
    To eliminate any and maybe all islamist terrorist in this country is to have Mohammid shoot out at a large gun range. The targets are the charactures of Mohammid. When the the terrorist arrive there can be a real chicken shoot.
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    Posted by $ number6 9 years, 6 months ago
    Ms Geller knew this was NOT just a "cartoon contest". It was an intentional, well advertised slap and insult against one of the beliefs of Islam. There is little doubt that Geller knew and hoped there would be some nut case that would attempt to pull something (why else did she have the beefed up security?) There is no excuse for the attempted terrorist act BUT Geller's actions are self promoting, hateful and confrontational as well.
    This "contest" was not about "free speech"
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      Posted by 9 years, 6 months ago
      So, by that logic, rape victims should bear some responsibility for being raped if they dressed too provocatively?

      The followers of Islam have NO entitlement to not be offended. This was entirely about free speech and the fact that Geller is being attacked demonstrates how morally inverted the issue has become.

      I don't recall any Christians shooting up the art gallery during the "Piss Christ" exhibit or Virgin Mary covered in feces exhibit.

      Free speech is free speech, and Islam is not above it.
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        Posted by $ number6 9 years, 6 months ago
        lol ... to your rape comment, there is not cause and effect similarity.
        Geller is a baby killing, gay marriage supporting self promoter who cared nothing about "free speech", she only wanted to get some nut case to react so she could say "see I told you they were all violent."
        Interesting you bring up the feces covered Virgin Mary exhibit. There was great opinion piece about that : http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0999/vi...
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          Posted by kevinw 9 years, 6 months ago
          Holy shit. What kind of site do you think you're on here? A "great opinion piece" by the executive director of the Jewish Policy Center is supposed to hold water here? Calling Gellar "a baby killing, gay marriage supporting self promoter" is supposed to help prove your point?

          Of course the contest was about free speech. It was not a contest to see who could have the free-er speech.It was an event held to expose those who would impose their views over and above anybody else's views and their right to speak those views. The fact that somebody (s) attempted to use violence to interfere with or kill people who were expressing their views should speak volumes about the actual intent of those who would initiate that violence. To lend any support in the form of trying to cast blame on the people trying to expose that intent speaks volumes about the person who is giving that support.
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            Posted by $ number6 9 years, 6 months ago
            "It was an event held to expose those who would impose their views over and above anybody else's views and their right to speak those views."
            So what about the views of Islamic people? Did Geller not ignore their views and impose her views over them?
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            • Posted by 9 years, 6 months ago
              Did she force any muslim to attend the event? Was there any way to see the cartoons other than freely attending the event?

              As the answer to both questions is NO, I'm not quite sure how she imposed her views on anyone.
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            • Posted by kevinw 9 years, 6 months ago
              What about the views of the Islamic people? They are morally wrong and in some cases truly evil. There are no facts to support their views. Their views are not worthy of anyone's support and when their views lead them to be violent, those views must be called out. As must your intent for supporting them.

              In no way did Gellar impose her views over anyone. How could you possibly justify such a statement on a site like this?
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        • Posted by 9 years, 6 months ago
          While I'm preternaturally opposed to abortion on demand and oppose gay marriage (frankly, I don't believe government should be involved in marriage, period), she is absolutely correct on this issue.

          And, the rape comment is a perfect analogy, as it demonstrates the victim being put on trial for being raped. Free speech is exercised and savages attempt to commit mass murder. What's the reaction, those engaged in free speech are accused of bringing it on themselves.
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            Posted by $ number6 9 years, 6 months ago
            A better analogy ...a woman walks naked into a group of convicted rapists and does a sexually provocative dance> Does she have culpability if the outcome is she gets raped? (That is not saying it is correct but her actions enhance the potentiality of that outcome.)
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    • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 6 months ago
      By your "logic," I suppose that you would consider the president (any president) to be " hop[ing] there would be some nut case that would attempt to pull something (why else [does he] have the beefed up security?)"
      Perhaps you have your premises reversed?
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