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Hillary and inoculations tweet

Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 9 months ago to Politics
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"#GrandmothersKnowBest until she is called to
testify and then grandmother doesn't know
anything."

-- j
SOURCE URL: http://www.wnd.com/2015/02/hillarys-new-granny-state-buried-in-mockery/

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  • Posted by Ben_C 9 years, 9 months ago
    What I have not heard is the origin of the measles outbreak. I suspect it was brought into the US from Central America harbored by the illegal immigrant children.
    Contagious and infectious diseases can be eliminated if proven protcols are used. The problem is that other countries are reservoirs for disease - especially third world.
    The question is "what is the incidence of disease and risk of exposure?" Rabies virus will kill you but that doesn't mean everyone should get a rabies vaccine (I do because of my job). Crawl around in caves with bats - probably a good idea. Parents need to make informed decisions and not be coerced by government mandates. But then, Obama knows best what is good for us as does Hillary. What am I thinking?
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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 9 months ago
    The myth that vaccines cause autism *was* started as a deliberate fraud ( http://briandeer.com/mmr/lancet-summary.... ) by a doctor in the pay of a competing vaccine maker. (I'm still disappointed that the lawyer who paid Dr. Wakefield to make these claims didn't lose his license to practice law as well.)

    I don't think the law should require vaccination. I do think schools should make it a condition of enrollment. If you're too scared to vaccinate Junior, you can keep him at home.
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    • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 9 months ago
      @jdg - I agree. If schools were all private, some would require it and other wouldn't, leaving people free to support whichever school they wanted. At one private school in my area is sort-of a refuge for people who deny the scientific consensus and don't vaccinate their kids.

      If vaccines were made 100% effective and there were no medical conditions that kept some people from being vaccinated, then schools could leave it up to parent choice.

      As it is, sending kids to school un-vaccinated puts others at risk.

      Privatizing schools would be a silver bullet to end the debate.

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      • Posted by Kittyhawk 9 years, 9 months ago
        You said "sending kids to school un-vaccinated puts others at risk."

        Actually, there's evidence that sending kids to school vaccinated puts others at risk. "Scientific evidence demonstrates that individuals vaccinated with live virus vaccines such as MMR (measles, mumps and rubella), rotavirus, chicken pox, shingles and influenza can shed the virus for many weeks or months afterwards and infect the vaccinated and unvaccinated alike." That sentence has 10 citations in the following article: http://globenewswire.com/news-release/20...

        There is scientific consensus on vaccine safety... and on global warming. I don't agree in either case.
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    • Posted by Kittyhawk 9 years, 9 months ago
      Do you think it is at all strange that vaccine manufacturers have been granted complete protection from liability for any harm done by the vaccines they create and market? Why would this be necessary if vaccines were actually "safe"? Vaccines are a 5.7 billion dollar industry, but the manufacturers supposedly need protection from lawsuits, and the vaccine injury compensation fund is paid into by the people receiving the vaccines. What other industry is granted government immunity from liability to the consumers it harms? Something is really wrong with that situation.
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    • Posted by $ splumb 9 years, 9 months ago
      That's the way it used to be. Before we started a new school year, we had to get a paper from our doctors, showing we were up to date on our shots.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 9 months ago
    The question of immunization is a difficult one to face. I'm always suspicious of so-called "settled" science, but the current outbreak of measles is, while a long way from epidemic, certainly worth looking into. When my kids were growing up autism (we didn't even know the word) was around one in five thousand, today it's purported to be around one in seventy. While I'm not for government enforced anything, if the measles continues to spread and becomes a true epidemic, I would re-evaluate my decisions. As to Hillary -- why would anyone care what fell out of her mouth, especially after Benghazi, except to mock her.
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    • Posted by jpellone 9 years, 9 months ago
      When I was young, everyone I know of got the shots or got the measles. Autism is a different story. I don't remember any kids in any of my schools having autism type symptoms.

      Maybe it is because everything we ate was natural. Our grocery stores stocked locally grown foods including the greenhouses my grandmother worked at, the corn from the local fields, the cows that lived on grazing in fields during the summer and the hay bailed in the fall, I even (heaven forbid) ate veggies right of the bush or vine in grandma's backyard garden or the blackberries that grew wild in my side yard!!!

      GMO's and the life of a cow before slaughtering scares me and I feel that is what is causing todays medical problems.
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      • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 9 months ago
        You remind me of growing corn and radishes in my backyard. Why corn and radishes? They were the easiest to grow. You can hardly miss with them. But, you have a point. Let me quote a snippet from Ogden Nash:
        "Our daily diet grows odder and odder,
        It's a wise child that knows its fodder."
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        • Posted by jpellone 9 years, 9 months ago
          I live in a subdivision but I have a big backyard so I have 6 4x8 raised beds. I grow Alaska peas in early spring and late fall, corn, radishes, blackberries, spices, rhubarb, cantaloupe, 2 or 3 different tomato's, beans, and strawberries over summer. I also have a couple dozen fruit trees but they are not mature yet. The wife won't let me keep chickens yet, still trying lol.

          I also have two ponds; one for minnows and I am thinking of raising tilapia in the big pond. We have one lake here that is overrun by tilapia so I may go fill my live well with them and introduce them to my pond. Yea, I know, there is a topic here where most of the people don't like fish but I do!!! My wife didn't like fish till I cooked it for her.

          I'm trying to eat as much natural food as possible but I can't supply it all. Me and my family can survive a little while if the SHTF.
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          • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 9 months ago
            My wife & I are old. Not elderly -- Old. So if the entire aflockolips occurs, then, WTF. It is you youngsters (anyone under 75) that have a big problem. Maybe it's GMOs, immunization, or French Fries, eventually it'll be found unless an industry builds up around it preventing a cure like in cancer and heart. (OK call me a conspiratorialist).
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            • Posted by jpellone 9 years, 9 months ago
              So you have seen quite a change in the world. Some for the good and some for the bad. There are people and industries constantly conspiring one thing or another. There are plants out there that eliminate diabetes and other terminal diseases but are kept hush hush so they can keep treating the symptoms for monetary gains.
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  • Posted by sumitch 9 years, 9 months ago
    Slick Willy's wife is a proven liar. Remember how she remembered being shot at when her plane was taking off and no one else on it remembered being shot at including the crew. The little fit she threw with the "what difference does it make now" will be used against her I hope. I'm also hearing a lot of questions about what has she accomplished? The bad showing of her book makes me believe that many have seen her for what she is. If she runs she'll have the two best underhanded violators on her side. The GOP has to start fighting back with the same dirty tricks being used against us.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 9 years, 9 months ago
    So now she imitates Louis XIV of France: "I am the State." Well, the State does not know best, either.

    The evidence on the protective value of vaccines is inconclusive. The treatment of a certain physician who sounded an alarm about the hazards of their too-rapid administration was a travesty of justice.

    Now we can and should have a debate here about whether an infectious disease qualifies as a public nuisance, and in fact about the entire notion of public nuisance in the civil law. But let's not base our response on the bad and venal behavior of certain companies engaging in good old-fashioned rent-seeking.
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