Surprise! Forgiven Debt May Be Taxable Income
Yet another surprise you didn't want
SOURCE URL: http://www.cnbc.com/id/100557328
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While we're very happy to have you in the Gulch and appreciate your wanting to fully engage, some things in the Gulch (e.g. voting, links in comments) are a privilege, not a right. To get you up to speed as quickly as possible, we've provided two options for earning these privileges.
Then the stock market crashed, and your portfolio is only worth $110K.
The bank reviews this situation and says:
"You could walk away from your loan and release the stocks (collateral) to me at present value, but I find that not so attractive."
"Let me instead write down your loan to $130K, and you keep paying me on a reduced payment schedule." You are both thinking hopefully the asset recovers a good chunk of its value in the future.
It would be crazy for the federal government to claim this individual received $70K in "income" from this arrangement.
Income cannot be assessed until the asset is sold.
They understand the concept of "capital loss" at sale time.
If confronted with this situation, the individual would immediately sell those stocks to claim a $90K loss rather than accept $70K of taxable income, and then they would seek bankruptcy protection.
It works no different in the housing world. When people find out that these writedowns are going to be treated as income, they should immediately do the same thing.
What's going on here?
I believe when you repay a bank, the interest portion of your payment counts as 'income' to that bank.
Income which the bank then pays taxes on.
All these loan writedowns must be costing the FedGov a SIGNIFICANT amount of money.
They're looking to recoup lost revenue.
But notice how they do it. The income they have lost from the bank was typically 5% compounded on principle, spread out over 15-30 years.
They are coming after you not for lost taxes against 5% compound interest, but for ordinary income taxes against 100% of forgiven principle...in ONE YEAR.
Matters of capital gain or loss must wait until the asset is SOLD. To count loan forgiveness as ordinary income is just screwed up.
This is government greed.
That's the way I see it.
But I ask those of you in this site-did you vote for Mitt Romney? Do you comply with the feds coming knocking at your door with "pay up!" spitting from their collective mouths?
I know some people use the system. I am speaking form experience though as a real estate broker in CA. I have had clients in the last year, that had been unemployed for a year or two which resulted in foreclosure of their homes. Many dont have two nickels to rub together and end up moving in with family once they lose the house. I understand that this is the market correcting itself, and I have no problems with this. But for the gov to come in and demand someone to pay up is laughable. Extorting wherever they can