How Important Is a College 'Pedigree?'
I wanted to see what the Gulch thought about this.
I think college is very helpful, but mainly in identifying the type of structure you were taught and the strengths of what you may have learned. How people take in that knowledge and act on it is different in everyone.
I like to think I consider the person, much more so than the degree.
I think college is very helpful, but mainly in identifying the type of structure you were taught and the strengths of what you may have learned. How people take in that knowledge and act on it is different in everyone.
I like to think I consider the person, much more so than the degree.
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I would add that it is still possible to get a lot out of a university education, but as with most things in life, it depends one's approach. Education is an opportunity to learn and develop intellectually. The problem is that most people see it as a qualification. As rockymountainpirate mentioned below, Howard Roark had it right in taking what he could learn from the university and leaving the rest. He didn't want or need the university's stamp of approval.
I like Howard Roark's approach. He took all the schooling he needed in engineering, but what he considered the worthless learn how to make copies of what was already a copy he said no.
A young girl I know is so proud of her AA in Psychology and her family thinks she just the smartest person in the world. They don't like it when I say it qualifies her to be an entry level HR person at the local Wal-Mart.
Got mean? Median, Mode anybody? =)
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And thanks, it's nice to stop past when I get time. Someone mentioned me? How sweet! :P
her qualifications will not be her degree in psych from even the biggest crony schools. her qualifications will be everything else she's done or accomplished outside that. yes. let that sink in. we all know this is true.
http://www.bloomberg.com/slideshow/2013-...
Thank you AIA. awful legislation that took our best system in the world to number 6. (sorry for the rant)
My husband and I both are emphasizing that if you want to have a direct bearing on your livelihood, be an owner. That has its own onerous problems, as many here can attest to, but can also bring great satisfaction. That may be a pipe dream at this point....
Ultimately the end goal of a degree is to give one an education that is attractive to employers in your field of interest. As an employer who has hired many people over the years, I have been impressed by the inconsistency of the real world abilities of those in possession. Until the Universities teach common sense, real world critical thinking and problem solving I expect to see more applicants who can regurgitate copious amounts of data, have an inflated sense of their worth, but don’t have the common sense, or the work ethic of a common soldier. Of course there are exceptions, but the indoctrination which is prevalent in so many of our learning institutions is making this a rare occurrence. I have found I can teach anyone with average intelligence, general knowledge, common sense and a proper work ethic the particulars. Ex-military, honorably discharged always get my attention.
This link is one of the most popular on my site. It's a list of the most successful people who didn't go to college and it is very long. Interesting information.
http://overmanwarrior.wordpress.com/2010...
College is good if you want to learn to take orders. But it won't do much for an individual trying to learn how to step out of the herd and do something new.
Not sure what makes you say that. In my nine years at university, I never once received an order.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl7R8xIxz...
My two cents:
At first glance, one would think pedigree should matter. It is product branding, more or less.
The colleges that teach the best would theoretically produce the best product, and those graduates would be more valued by the employers.
However, it's self-evident that colleges are not manufacturing an assembly line of consistent product. The end result of education is probably over 90% due to what the student puts into the process, rather than anything special being taught at a particular college. The fact that college credits transfer so readily between institutions is a clue here. A well-driven student will likely SUCCEED in any college. A lax one will likely PASS any college. Pedigree is all about giving consideration to why a student could or couldn't get through the admissions boards of the best regarded institutions. Admissions boards have many more things on their mind these days beyond academic excellence. I don't think pedigree should matter, so long as colleges are doing things like letting Latino students in so they can meet their Latino diversity quota. Businesses ought to care about a DRIVE FOR EXCELLENCE. Pedigree is not a help - at least not today.
Also, a great many colleges do not even have as their goal the production of a graduate that will have been taught the skills necessary to operate in the workforce. That idea is just dirty to them. They think they are there to expand their students brains, not give them work skills. It's why we are a nation producing thousands of unemployed 20 year olds who majored in English Literature, History, Communications, Art, and so forth. I think the majority of the liberal arts degrees are phony, considering what the high school councellor told them they were going to college for. We are told to go to college so we can get a good job. But liberal arts colleges have NEVER BEEN ABOUT JOBS. They're happy to take your money to give you your "education", but it's got nothing to do with marketable skills.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2No1qU12...
my daughter's friend is the one who talks about the bus.
she is very smart and accomplished, btw
Our society stigmatizes if you don't have one, but I see it as just another 4 years to finally hone your little statist self. Ask most entrepreneurs if what they learned in college was essential to their success As DK stated, the cost to value ratio is not a great bet. As well, most college institutions are way out of touch with the private sector, and so most degrees in the liberal arts division are useless for acquiring job skills. and that is a darn shame. all of america sports huge student loans which will be the largest debt most of them have in their life. another darn shame. but it's all about the big govt big school big crony business. that said, I loved college for the most part, but paid a high price. and I didn't learn a damned thing about how to do a job or build a business or make it on my own. It was everything else I did or interests I had that helped me get jobs and/or build a business. so why the high price? answer: it's not a free market! biggest monopoly in the world.
Note: I am going beyond the obvious requirements for certain professions here and speaking generally of the education quality.