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King George's Patriot Act

Posted by dbhalling 10 years, 1 month ago to Legislation
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It is time for Law and Order Republicans and National Defense hawks to wake up and see the contradictions.
SOURCE URL: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/10/16/why-trust-government-with-personal-freedom-when-it-cant-protect-from-ebola-or/


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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 1 month ago
    "The Patriot Act also prohibits the recipient of an agent-written search warrant from telling anyone about it -- that includes a lawyer in confidence, a priest in confession, a spouse in the home, even a judge in open court. It is this section of the Patriot Act that is being challenged by Twitter and Google in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in California."
    If you cannot tell your lawyer you have received such, how can you adequately legally represent yourself if it goes to court? and if this part of teh Patriot Act is on trial through Twitter and Goodlge, doesn't that mean they are revealing they have been subject to these types of warrants? Are they fined? What is the punishment for the breach? Jail?
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years, 1 month ago
    Napolitano for President!
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    • Posted by 10 years, 1 month ago
      He would be a good start. I have read his books and his is confused on the source of rights. He confuses natural law with natural rights. He is no Ayn Rand.
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      • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years, 1 month ago
        Hello dbhalling,
        I have only read his book "It Is Dangerous To Be Right When The Government Is Wrong." However, I have heard him say on TV, "God given or Natural rights" intimating an allowance depending upon one's preference... hedging his bets... At least he respects and reveres the Constitution. I could live with it.
        Regards,
        O.A.
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        • Posted by 10 years, 1 month ago
          Hi OA,
          That is the only book of his I have read also. Here is my book review http://hallingblog.com/book-review-it-is...

          His "natural yearnings" argument for Natural Law is nonsense. Here is what I said in my review " I am in complete agreement with the Judge’s emphasis on Natural Law, but he defines it in terms of “essential yearnings.” Someone might have an essential yearning to torture people or kill them. That does not make it a natural right. It is enough to state that people have ownership of their body. The rest of Natural Law and Natural Rights flows from this simple concept. Once I own myself, I clearly own the product of my labor which leads to all of property law, including patents. Criminal law comes from violating my rights in my body or in my property. The “essential yearnings” adds nothing to the concept of Natural Law and Natural Rights."
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          • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years, 1 month ago
            Good evening DB,
            A very well reasoned critique of the book... I believe the Judge, is, as you have stated, a bit less than firmly founded on the origin of rights, but he comes to proper end regardless of means. I wonder if what he states in this regard is a bit of placation or thorough contemplation.
            In regard to his error relative to fractional banking, I agree, but can forgive this since he is a judge and not an economist, yet seems imminently reasonable, rational and educable.
            Regardless, we could and certainly have done worse.

            Now for something completely different: Have you and K had your power restored? You must have by now... No? It is just after midnight here, I know where you are approximately. I am enjoying some Cabo Wabo Reposado :) and thinking of you... It has been a fine evening.
            I hope you both have had one too.
            O.A.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 1 month ago
    Nice find, with well-articulated reasoning. I've always been impressed with Napolitano's candor and legal mind. I'd much rather see him as a Justice than either Kagan or Sotomayor.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 1 month ago
    Yes. They are secretive about what they're doing not because they don't want the bad guys to know. The bad guys were not talking on the phone based on misinformation that the gov't doesn't monitor phone calls without a warrant. If that were happening, the secrecy would at least make senes. They are secretive because the citizens wouldn't support what they're doing, but they want to do it anyway, probably because like all people they have a feeling they're the good guys and should have more power.
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    • Posted by gtebbe 10 years, 1 month ago
      The current administration, and I believe many of the state governments, are nothing more than Looters. And they are using their lawless government to legitimatize their crimes against the Constitution and the U.S. Citizens. I think the reason why there is so much confusion these days is Looters are free to make up their own rules to fit their whims, which eventually conflict with their brothers-in-crimes' mentality. There are always two sides, 1) What they mean, and 2) What they think we think what they mean.

      There are so many distractions occurring on a daily bassis, it is becoming difficult to address them all in one reponse. And now this past week, Ebola.

      I am ready to scream.


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