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California wants to own its own refinery! What would Ellis Wyatt think?

Posted by $ jbrenner 1 month ago to Government
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California policymakers are considering state ownership of one or more oil refineries to ensure a reliable supply of gasoline as the number of refineries in the state declines.

An oil industry trade group questions whether the state would have the expertise to effectively run a refinery, citing a lack of “understanding of the industry and how it works.”

Russia. China. Venezuela. Iran. More than a dozen countries make gasoline at state-owned refineries.

Could California be next on the list?
SOURCE URL: https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2025-02-16/is-california-government-considering-oil-refinery-takeovers-yes-it-is


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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 1 month ago
    CALIFORNIA? OIL/GAS??? say it ain't true!
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 1 month ago
      The cretins who run California can't even save enough water (with reservoirs ridiculously kept empty) to fight the wildfires they always have.
      Speaking of wildfires, an oil/gas refineries strikes me dino as a great place to start another stupid California policy maker fire.
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      • Posted by Lucky 1 month ago
        allosaur has hit the nail on the head, again.
        Now if I was one y.o. I could agree, that to preserve an essential service from the greed of capitalists, take it into public ownership.

        Being somewhat over one y.o., and having the events of California fresh in mind, if nothing else, I have a different view.
        The government controlled the water supply. There had been a previous season of very good rainfall but vast quantities of water were sent out to sea. When water was needed for fire fighting, reservoirs were empty.

        To teach about socialism by all means go to Rand, Hayek, Sowell and Friedman, but
        Do not forget the disaster of the Los Angeles fires of January 2025.
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        • Posted by $ allosaur 1 month ago
          Me dino just started to wonder why socialism is run by stupid people. That wonderment stopped instantaneously. in me own dino reasoning way.
          It is because stupid people both like and adopt socialism. Americans should know better.
          Or maybe they don't because I went to school mostly during the Fifties and the Sixties.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 1 month ago
    I lived in CA for 93 days... I Moved out quickly.

    Anyways, I know a lot of decent people who go there and change. They buy into the BS. They raise children the state has to incarcerate and wash their hands of any responsibility when they laughed when the young teenager started smoking weed "We all go through those stages". And then he refuses to go to school, and wants to stay in the basement, smoking weed, eating pizza with their friends.
    You gave them EVERYTHING Except direction, discipline, and goals. And your plan was to turn the world over to people like them...
    Congrats... It worked. Look at the people running the place into the ground. All looters.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 1 month ago
    Russia has around 30 large oil refineries, with the majority owned by the state-owned company Rosneft, which operates the most refineries in the country, including major ones like the Syzran, Tuapse, and Ryazan refineries; other significant players include Lukoil and Gazprom Neft
    Among these refineries, Perm Refinery, Kstovo Refinery, and Volgograd Refinery are privately owned by Lukoil, Yaroslavl Refinery is by Slavneft,
    Russia has been moving away from Communism after being one of the most abused country by the deep state in the world . Hence the BRICS creation
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 1 month ago
    A Refinery Represents 120yrs of optimizing outputs based on crude inputs. Certain refineries "prefer" light sweet over dark, etc. etc.

    I BEG everyone to zoom into a picture of a refinery as I did. And just look at the various pipes going around. Just IMAGINE the CA Government DEI Hires trying to figure out where ONE of those pipes go, over and over again.

    Could they do it? Certainly NOT profitably. And probably not in my life time!

    Now, here's a GENIUS idea. Stop ATTACKING the owners of the existing refineries, and help them DECIDE to stay in CA.

    But that's kinda like making sure there is water in the fire hydrant BEFORE the fire. The SIZE of that MISTAKE is not completely apparent until the fire strikes.

    The Refineries leaving is the telltale sign you waited too long, because those that were leaving, probably put off maintenance for the last 10yrs, milking every last dollar out of their soon to be lost investment.

    INSANITY. If only CA could get cars to run on hot air... Then their politicians could actually become useful!
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    • Posted by $ 1 month ago
      There was a time in the oil refining business, and times I was involved with multiple environmentally friendly alternate energy methods. No more. I can't take the constant changes in what gets deemed environmentally friendly being less environmentally friendly and more expensive.

      As Ayn Rand so aptly summarized in Atlas Shrugged:

      "But you expect industrial giants — who plan in terms of decades, invest in terms of generations and undertake ninety-nine-year contracts — to continue to function and produce, not knowing what random caprice in the skull of what random official will descend upon them at what moment to demolish the whole of their effort.

      With the sign of the dollar as our symbol — the sign of free trade and free minds — we will move to reclaim this country once more from the impotent savages who never discovered its nature, its meaning, its splendor."
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      • Posted by CaptainKirk 1 month ago
        The introduction sentence is quite powerful. I Totally agree. Again, I think of software, when I graduated High School in 1985, microsoft's C Compiler came on a single DISK, and used a BATCH file to install. No setup program. NADA.

        I can only imagine what a Refinery looked like in the 1800s. And how they bolted on trick after trick to extract more value. Ethanol, Methanol, etc. etc.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 1 month ago
    Oh hell, no. Look at how well they have managed forest and brush and fire mitigation. And then they want to own their own thing to blow up? They chased every oil company out with asinine regulations, taxes and fees, and now they want their own? Yea, that will go as well as their bullet train has....
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  • Posted by Dobrien 1 month ago
    On the very best day California Policymakers are a puss filled boil on the Ass of progress. The rest of the days they actively promote the destruction of a state with the most potential in our country. That’s what a criminal cabal controlled by Satanic Luciferian Genocidal Globalist Peedo Banksters do. You can see it all around the world. WWF WEF WHO IMB CFR UN USAID +++ . Depopulation - Genocidal. Prove me wrong. Please.
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  • Posted by diessos 1 month ago
    The same people that can't build a train are going to run a refinery?
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    • Posted by JakeOrilley 1 month ago
      You beat me to my comment.... and how much$$ did they waste??
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      • Posted by $ 1 month ago
        And they think that they will never run out of our money. Looters and moochers beware! DOGE is coming after you like a can of RAID to cockroaches.
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        • Posted by mccannon01 1 month ago
          DOGE is at the federal level. The states can still play the games required to steal from the people in the name of the people. The Marxist Democrat governor here in NY (along with the Marxist Democrat legislature) has managed to get legislation passed to levy taxes and fees on energy producers to create a 75 billion dollar "super fund to mitigate the effects of climate change". IMHO, it's a scam to funnel money to left wing causes at the state level to offset the DOGE effect shutting down such scams at the federal level. New Yorkers are just now getting their first utility bills with the hidden cost showing up and you can hear the howling. I tell complainers if they voted Democrat they are getting what they voted for and the rest of us are getting screwed because of their idiocy - vote accordingly the next time!
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