Bill to limit self-checkout in CA

Posted by $ Radio_Randy 3 days, 1 hour ago to Legislation
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A bill introduced (by a dem, I'll bet), most likely to offset job losses due to Newsom's insane minimum wage measure.

That should hold until those businesses fold and move out of the state.
SOURCE URL: https://www.ropesdataphiles.com/2024/06/california-legislature-looks-to-restrict-self-checkout-technology/


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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 2 days, 23 hours ago
    I am sure that the official justification for a bill limiting self-checkout is the prevalence of shoplifting in Kommiefornia, where you have to steal > $999 to be prosecuted.
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    • Posted by $ 2 days, 20 hours ago
      I don't understand why such a move has to be legislated, rather than allow businesses to make their own choice.

      That's what really sells fishy to me.
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      • Posted by JakeOrilley 1 day, 6 hours ago
        Allowing a business to make a choice? That flies in the face of everything the California legislature is trying to do! Find a way to tax it, fine it, or allow the mega-donating lawyers to sue people (as all companies are made up of people) on a class action level.........
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  • Posted by $ rainman0720 19 hours, 32 minutes ago
    I'm probably gonna catch a lot of crap for this, but I absolutely agree with the first three items. Having said that, they are good customer service policies that should be voluntarily implemented by the store, NOT required by the government. So, I've got to keep that perspective in mind; just because they're common-sense items, and implementing the first three would greatly reduce my stress level when I go to the store, that doesn't make it right for Big Brother to mandate them.

    It's like seat belts and helmets. No offense intended towards anyone here, but I think it's idiotic to drive a car without using seat belts or to ride a motorcycle without wearing a helmet. But I reserve the right to be an idiot; the government should have no right to try and protect me from myself, especially when I haven't asked for help.

    OK, I'll shut up.
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    • Posted by $ 18 hours, 28 minutes ago
      Rainman,

      When in the Marines, I rode without a helmet, for a year or so, in SoCal.

      After getting married, I started making a point of wearing a helmet, all the time. After we moved to WA (which didn't have helmet laws, yet), we continued to wear our helmets, out of concern for our own safety.

      I've never been pro helmet legislation, preferring that people be allowed to make their own choice.

      And as for the standard line about how helmet-less head injuries are such a strain on our medical system, I call B.S. The government has shown itself to be totally disinterested in our health and well-being (with the exception of RFK Jr).
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  • Posted by rhfinle 23 hours, 46 minutes ago
    I ~refuse~ to participate in self-checkout. Part of the cost of groceries is getting someone else to handle identifying, pricing and tabulating the items.
    If you do self-checkout and miss an item, intentionally or not, you are automatically guilty of theft as soon as you walk out, and all businesses will prosecute if they find out.
    If you go through a checkout with a cashier, and they miss an item, the onus is on ~them~.
    Normally they will not get arrested, but may get reprimanded or dismissed if found out.
    Self-checkout is not worth the additional legal risk, but the cashiers like it, the stores definitely like it, and the local police and prosecutors probably like it too.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 day, 1 hour ago
    You would be right, a Dumb-O-Crap:

    https://sd28.senate.ca.gov/
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    • Posted by $ gharkness 22 hours, 6 minutes ago
      Yeah, she has "equitable" all over her site. No thanks.

      But WRT self-check: I refuse to use anything but self-check, as long as it's available in the store. While there MAY be some downsides to using self-check (I don't buy the prosecution bit as I've had a couple times when I forgot to scan something and they always caught it AT the station - that's what the cameras are for), it's practically a guarantee that if you use cashier to check your groceries, you'll be in the store longer; sometimes much longer. And instead of pick up-scan-bag-done, using a cashier means you have to put the items on the counter, wait for him/her to scan them, then bag them and put them in your cart, because they rarely have anyone there to actually bag the merchandise for you. In the meantime, while you are bagging your own groceries, you can't check to make sure they didn't scan something wrong/too many times/ sales price didn't apply correctly, etc., AND in many instances you have to turn over your credit card to the cashier and hope to remember to get it back before you leave (though that is changing to the customer not letting go of his cards)

      Two days ago I was in a moderately busy supermarket with a smallish cart of goods, and no self-pay stations open. I was neither worried nor impatient. Instead of opening the extra closed self-check as they should have done, one of the cashiers told me to bring my cart to her station to check it herself. When I realized what she was doing I refused to go further, and let someone else who was actually wanting to use the cashier station, and went back to the self check line. Thanks to this employee, I had to go to the back of the line to eventually and finally check my groceries.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 2 days, 19 hours ago
    Hmmph! I can see it coming... a new layer of government bureaucracy the busy body control freaks will love: The Ministry of Self Checkout Inspection and Compliance. With enormous fines and possible incarceration, not to mention a whole new source of revenue for lawyers, for failing to comply, the Commifornians are getting way ahead of the curve.
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