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Germany to Re-Introduce Slavery

Posted by freedomforall 7 months, 1 week ago to Government
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"Please consider the Eurointelligence headline story Germany to Re-Introduce Slavery

The headline might be bordering on the hysterical, but the big idea in German politics right now is to re-introduce the general draft. This is not happening because Germany expects to be at war. It is not about the military at all. Under the plans, young people, male and female, can choose between the Bundeswehr or a year of forced labour in the social services, essentially uncompensated."
SOURCE URL: https://mishtalk.com/economics/shocking-headline-of-the-day-germany-to-re-introduce-slavery/


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    Posted by mhubb 7 months, 1 week ago
    we have slavery in the US
    i am a slave o the welfare parasites and their demands, either i work or my family will have nothing and a lot of what i earn is stolen to give to the parasite class, 100% unconstitutionally


    now add the demands of the il-legals and the pro-hamas types to that
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    • Posted by nonconformist 7 months, 1 week ago
      I would beg to differ. The welfare thing is psy op. What is really happening is, the state takes your money, gives like 10% to the welfare recipients and keeps the rest for itself. You see, it is a grift. It is the same grift as with the other stuff, such as defense and roads.

      One more thing, there wouldn't be so many people in need of welfare if there was no state to rob them into poverty.
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      • Posted by mhubb 7 months, 1 week ago
        the taking is the issue
        it is stolen from We the People for unconstitutional reasons

        that some of it goes to welfare parasites notwithstanding
        it still makes us slaves

        i doubt that generations of welfare parasites were "robbed into poverty"
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        • Posted by nonconformist 7 months, 1 week ago
          Some are less productive than others. You may be able to outproduce the taking but others may not. Eventually, they descend into poverty, at which point their productive capacity drops even lower. Once your family line is in that state, it is rather difficult to get out. At that point, either you let your children die of hunger homeless or you accept stolen money.

          Some may rely on the taking to stay above water themselves. You may complain about being stolen from, but you need to check how you make your money. Half of US economy depends on government budget. If you are in the wrong half, you have no right to complain because your source of income is the taking. If you are in healthcare, construction, defense, etc then you are on the receiving end of the taking. It is very difficult to make it elsewhere.

          Although, I am sure there are a lot of people that are parasites by choice. I would not excuse their behavior.
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          • Posted by 7 months, 1 week ago
            One might argue that the federal hand extends to every business since all those being paid directly from the fedgov must spend their booty somewhere and that often will be in honest businesses.
            The repeated spending and multiple taxation nearly every time fiat changes hands helps to hide just how deep the slavery runs.
            Kill the taxation and the spending and the never ending debt creation (to benefit the banking cartel) and the American small business economy would resurrect the free market and the middle class.
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            • Posted by nonconformist 7 months, 1 week ago
              Regarding all businesses being tainted by stolen funds, it depends on the degree of separation. Initially, they are getting paid more due to higher demand caused by misallocation of money into the sector. As that money propagates through the system, you reach a break even point at which the business receives the same "amount" as they would have gotten without the wrongful state actions. Any further propagation will be through businesses which end up losing out regardless of the source of funds.

              So, those closer to the money spigot benefit but those farther away lose out (due to being drained via taxation).
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          • Posted by mhubb 7 months, 1 week ago
            not my fault that those in some industries sold out to take monies unconstitutionally taken, to tie themselves to government, doing that was a MAJOR mistake, done so far in the past that ending such a poor decision is too hard for them to contemplate

            same with people that think they "own" their social security, they don't, courts did rule on that one


            Courts should have ruled LBJ Great Society 100% unconstitutional

            all these programs should b ended, doing the least amount of harm possible.
            the programs are used to buy the votes
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            • Posted by nonconformist 7 months, 1 week ago
              Ending all this nonsense is definitely needed. The one issue that I see is that there is going to be some major withdrawal pain that the system is going to go through when that happens. Argentina is one example of this.
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            • Posted by nonconformist 7 months, 1 week ago
              The right thing to do is to ask your clients (or estimate) where their source of funds comes from. If they are too close to government backed sources, either cancel their order or charge them an appropriate (much higher) amount and then try to right the wrong and distribute the surcharge to people which it may have come from (including yourself). It is pretty hard to calculate the surcharge amount but I am sure it is possible.

              This is the free market way to peacefully enforce the law, by the way. I was considering putting together a database website which would be used exactly for this purpose. It would take submissions of names and proof of wrongdoing, list victims, allow calculation of recovery of damages surcharges and maybe allow repayment tracking, etc.
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    • Posted by tutor-turtle 7 months, 1 week ago
      This is nothing more than what the Israeli's have had in place for decades. (Their's is a two year program)
      If the US is ever to get out from under the burden of suppling every European nation's military protection, they got to start somewhere.
      I'm not have a problem with it. In fact I have a great idea:
      If we are going to have a 15 million Crimalien evasion, why don't we put those invaders to some useful purpose.
      The best result is they go back to where they came. Voluntarily.
      Second best is we get free labor.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 7 months, 1 week ago
    Hell, if poopypants gets four more years we'll have a draft here in the US. And, that WILL be because of war. The funny thing is the rules to this program forming in Germany. They're offering a year of non-paid service....vs. going to war? Give me the service. But, this is a rope-a-dope. I guarantee you that they'll turn that one year of non-paid service into two or three as the out. They'll just adjust as they see fit and people will grumble and not do a damn thing to stop it.

    How about we stop going to war for a change? How about that?...
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    • Posted by 7 months, 1 week ago
      👍 The question is:
      What country is least likely to be involved in war?
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      • Posted by $ Abaco 7 months, 1 week ago
        I’m mulling over Uruguay. But, it’s no longer for the financially challenged. The wealthy have discovered it, apparently.
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        • Posted by 7 months, 1 week ago
          I agree. One must look at less obvious places.
          Next door is Paraguay where legal residency is nearly painless. If you can learn Spanish
          and some local history a passport can also be earned. They even allow firearm possession
          (with an available permit.) That passport would also allow easy visa-free travel to all of
          South America. Buenos Aires Argentina is also nearby from Paraguay.
          Residency is also pretty easy in Ecuador and Peru (with relatively low financial requirements)
          on the Pacific coast where the climate is somewhat less extreme.
          iirc, they also don't tax foreign earnings or pensions.

          You should make a trip down for a few months if you are serious about relocating.
          I understand that US citizens are also welcome in Tbilisi Georgia (one year visa no questions)
          if you're looking for a place with European flavor and English widely spoken.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov 7 months, 1 week ago
    I never had a problem with Heinlein's Starship Troopers society that required either military or public service to gain the right to vote. A society where no one has "skin in the game" is destined to fail.

    We're seeing the consequences of a freeloader society now. It's all about privileges, and nothing about responsibility.
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    • Posted by mccannon01 7 months, 1 week ago
      I am forced to pay taxes so I figure that is my "public service" that pays for my right to vote. It's called taxation with representation - not that nowadays it is much different as taxation without representation. I have never been a freeloader on the state - ever.
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      • Posted by DrZarkov 7 months, 1 week ago
        You have skin in the game, but we've reached the point where half the working population pay no taxes, and many leech off of the taxpayer without ever having held a job. There are some families that are several generations deep in people who've never worked, so the concept of doing something to actually deserve what they get is foreign to them.

        Things are only getting worse, with foreign born invaders now being allowed to suck off of the taxpayer teat. There are conniving political figures who are working very hard to make sure the freeloaders will soon be able to outvote the providers.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 7 months, 1 week ago
    To read this news item, first get a bucket so you can vomit into it.
    And a Civics Test before voting?!--First the government gets together and decides what ideas you should accept and believe in, and if you don't agree, you're not going to be allowed to vote?!
    One thing.--while I agree that the right to freedom is unalienable, I do not believe the Rights of Man are "self-evident", as it says in the Declaration of Independence. While these rights are indeed inalienable, they are not exactly self-
    evident, like the Law of http://Iddentity.An Aristotelian axiom like that is self-evident, all right, because it is inescapably true, as Aristotle has demonstrated (see _Metaphysica) But a lot of basic rights of Man, while true, are not exioms, though they can be demonstrated to rest on axioms (such as reason's being true, man's senses' being reliable, etc.)
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  • Posted by rhfinle 7 months, 1 week ago
    Send the (illegal) immigrants in first, That's what the US Yankees did in the 1860's to have enough manpower to fight the Confederacy. Ellis Island: "Welcome to the US...Army." Then go for the woke college kids. You'll get the same quality troops as the old "McNamara's Morons".
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  • Posted by tutor-turtle 7 months, 1 week ago
    Couldn't read the link.
    Advertisements kept repeatedly popping up almost completely blocking the text.
    When you clicked the "X", a white space replaced the advertisement, again making it impossible to read the copy.
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  • Posted by JohnWesley 7 months, 1 week ago
    Every AMERICAN Citizen should be required to serve two years in Government service. Of course with this administration that would be a mistake, but in the real world Citizenship and Patriotism could be taught.
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    • Posted by GFasolt 7 months, 1 week ago
      Legitimate government exists only to protect the natural rights of the citizens. Forced servitude denies these rights and cannot be justified.

      “What is the basic, the essential, the crucial principle that differentiates freedom from slavery? It is the principle of voluntary action versus physical coercion or compulsion.” - Ayn Rand
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      • Posted by mhubb 7 months, 1 week ago
        can only be justified for criminals
        justly convicted

        and we've all seen enough in-justice from our government to question its commitment to said Justice
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    • Posted by 7 months, 1 week ago
      The fedgov has been my enemy since birth.
      They couldn't PAY me enough to work on their behalf against the rights of Americans.
      I'd give up citizenship instead, but the scum in D.C. would not even allow that right.
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