My Concern that Russia and China are Controlled?

Posted by CaptainKirk 1 year, 8 months ago to Politics
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Throughout this thing we have going on. I have held to my belief that Putin is Russia's Trump, and the Xi has Thumbed a nose at the Globalists.

I truly hope this is true. That Xi Played the globalists, and his takeover of Hong Kong (where many went to), was him showing his hand.

Clearly, everyone sees now, that Putin was PUSHED into this "war" by Ukraines bombing/shelling of their own people.
And escalating it about the time Biden said Putin was going to invade.

I stand by the fact that Russia does not want the Former Soviet Union together. It wasn't worth it back then, but Crimea, and the land way through to Crimea is important to cut the CORRUPT Ukraine out of the picture, and give Russia a semblance of control of their region.

But Russia is pushing CBDCs, So is China. The goals of these 3 [Globalists, Russia, China] are ALL Aligned in the same direction. This concerns me. Russia and China are setting up block-chain transactions for 100 Million Yuan and higher transactions.

I am just very suspicious when I see 2 different sides, playing towards the same goal. It would be different if ONE of them was pursuing BTC, or a NON-CBDC... But they are not.

Once again, I am starting to feel like we are all being set up. Being given fake choices, so that no matter who we choose, we get their handcuffs regardless...

What says the Gulch?


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    Posted by freedomforall 1 year, 8 months ago
    Perhaps Russia and China also realize that to retain power they need bodies that will fight
    for them, and that control of assets of people give them leverage to coerce more people
    to act as cannon fodder.

    Powerful government is ALWAYS the ENEMY of the PEOPLE.
    Government Can't Be Trusted in ANY Country.
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    • Posted by mhubb 1 year, 8 months ago
      not sure when the last invasion of Russia worked out for the invader...

      maybe at the end of WW2 the US could have done it, look at how we treated the Germans, treating the Ukrainians like that and the Russian People that remembered what stalin did to them

      now, not a chance that i'd suggest we invade Russia
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      • Posted by mccannon01 1 year, 8 months ago
        "not sure when the last invasion of Russia worked out for the invader..." I believe that would be under Batu Khan and the Golden Horde in the 13th century and the "Mongol Empire" held it for a couple of centuries. I put Mongol Empire in quotes because it was likely more Chinese than Mongol. Genghis Khan, a Mongol leader, mainly conquered and united the Chinese provincial kingdoms and created much of what is China today. Therefore, IMHO, the main manpower and war material that eventually went west into Europe was Chinese. Is history about to repeat?
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  • Posted by GaryL 1 year, 8 months ago
    I firmly believe Xi's attitude toward Biden is simple. When your enemy is digging a deep hole, (Green Climate crap) throw him a bigger shovel!
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  • Posted by jack1776 1 year, 8 months ago
    I think the CBDC thing is just hedging bets, both are also buying precious metals. I think anyone with any foresight can see the end of the road for the dollar, BRICS and CBDC are simply moving in on a vacuum created by us.

    I agree with you that Russia wants nothing to do with globalization, they are looking out for their own best interest, if Russia had 14 bio-weapons labs north of the Canadian boarder, we would have invaded too (well if Biden wasn’t in office).

    China for me is less clear, ether its in control or its opportunistic, not sure which. Ether they are the driving force for this facade known as globalization (actually communism) or they are simply taking advantage of it. I can see themselves imagining China as the global authority in the world. I think Taiwan will be invaded but I also see China with other issues the rest of the world will not have to deal with, the demographic decline of its population will be devastating on its society.

    Truly, I think the driving force behind globalization is us, we are the bad guys. The other stuff from Russia and China is just posturing for position when the shit hits the fan. i.e. looking for cover.
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    • Posted by mhubb 1 year, 8 months ago
      China wants revenge for WW2, Opium Wars, Boxer Rebellion (all the abuses)
      i can fully understand that, execpt the people alive now did not do it

      i do believe the People of China see the Unites States differently
      Americans bled and dies for China
      we took the money we got at the end of the Boxer Rebellion and opened schools in China, for the Chinese People

      no other Great Power has tried to be so fair with China

      but this will not stop China for dealing with us if we prevent their goals
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      • Posted by 1 year, 8 months ago
        Josh Philips from the Epoch Times said that in China, they are pushing the 100yrs of being mistreated/embarrassed by the West (England, US, etc). Clearly identifying us as the enemy.

        But they have a point. But they know it was the Globalists, and the Deep State. Unfortunately that's too nuanced for most Americans... No need to sell that. Hatred over being embarrassed for 100yrs will be solid...

        And Americas last 70yrs of continuous warfare, corruption... Not helping!
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        • Posted by mhubb 1 year, 8 months ago
          agreed!!!
          when i think of the good faith and trust the US used to have.... i weep

          no sane nation should trust the US, too damn many RINOs and democrat traitors
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      • Posted by Flootus5 1 year, 8 months ago
        I wonder how many in China's population of today would be aware of how China went communist? It was the covert Soviet operatives behind the Institute of Pacific Relations, backed by pro-communists in the American federal government, supported by grants from the Rockefeller and Carnegie Foundations, that undermined Chiang Kai-Shek and enabled the Communist takeover under Mao in 1949. The usual hoodwinking of the American people who had done so much for the Chinese peoples and the Kuomintang Nationalists that were so long trying to establish a constitutional republic.

        https://thenewamerican.com/china-betr...
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  • Posted by fairbro 1 year, 8 months ago
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, and a lot of Russians, do not want anything to do with the US and their amoral, drug-and crime-ridden cancel culture.

    Once Kiev/NATO has been kicked out of the ethnic-Russian areas of Ukraine, Russia will likely erect another "Iron Curtain," to keep the West OUT.
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  • Posted by fairbro 1 year, 8 months ago
    Putin has a PH D in Economics, is an honest man, sincerely wants to help Russia complete their recovery from Communism, and is rebuilding all the great Christian cathedrals throughout Russia. He has stated many times, Russian will be run on Christian principles.

    When I was in Russia in 2008? or so, VVP fired all the Oblast (State) governors. I asked my Russian friend, "Isn't that, kind of...wrong?" She replied. "Well, they are all corrupt, so maybe, among the new appointees, there will be a few that are not corrupt."

    Slow and small steps, forward...
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    • Posted by mhubb 1 year, 8 months ago
      Putin is no saint
      no one leading any nation can be

      he loves Russia
      easy to see that, he wants his nation to be a Great Power again

      i wish our leaders (democrats, RINOs) loved the US 1/10 as much
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  • Posted by mhubb 1 year, 8 months ago
    Russia and Chine hate each other, have for hundreds of years

    they are allied now because Russia needs an ally and China see it in their benefit to ally with Russia, to betray them latter

    China wants Taiwan, wants to turn Japan into glass, wants to prevent India from moving north (for land) and China wants the resources in Siberia and wants the land in Australia

    Russia wants to be relevant and a Great power again, does not want to surrender to the same diabolic forces that have gained power in the West

    if anyone is controlled, it is the traitors of the West (biden, leaders of NATO countries), being blackmailed for their child sex trafficking and satanic worship
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    • Posted by jack1776 1 year, 8 months ago
      spot on - "if anyone is controlled, it is the traitors of the West (biden, leaders of NATO countries), being blackmailed for their child sex trafficking and satanic worship"
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 1 year, 8 months ago
    Don't want to think about it much....But, I think all this could severely alter America in a way that's very bad for our children. (That's a nice way of putting it...)
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  • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 year, 8 months ago
    If Russia and China are controlled, then our financial irresponsibly has paved the way for it to happen. We might as well have taken all the money printed made a big pile in the back yard, soaked it with lamp oil and set a match to it. We (our government) took our greatest opportunity and pisseditaway. No one fault but our own. We let it happen.
    If you don't like what you are seeing better hold on to your girdle Margret, cause an ill wind is about to blow. BRICS is coming and when it does, we are so screwed.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 1 year, 8 months ago
    I see Soros as the linchpin, the one who would gladly bring down all, just for the fun of the game. Puting banned him, he is angry about that. Chile, Hungary and mroe. But Obama had him as a most frequent Oval Office visitor. Binen in tied to him, to get his UN ordered depopulation via migrants, whom he hoped whould bring new viruses to the immune deficient vaxed. Then Soros took over Biden policy, via Soros funded Gov. for Impact in DC. Meanwhile Soros and Biden control corruptUkraine, with Soros funding the idiot Zelinskyy into office. They are power hungry and determined to keep the Ukraine corrupt. Biden wants to bring in NATO and think he is tough.I do not blame Xi, not that I would want his CCP, but the man is smarter than Biden. Both Obama and Biden were terrible statemen, disrespectful to many, esp. Russia. Putin has to save face. I was hearing from a friend in Ukraind, until it got all totlaitarian over there. She would tell me how they at first like freedom from Russia, but how it all went bad, they were living on a shoestring, when once thye traveled Europe. She sent a photo of her modest well dept house. Ukraine corruption was not exactly Democracy. The UN and NATO seem to be machines of depopulation and military industrial compex thinlomg/ Of sp,epme dpes mpt get cpmtrp; pf tje IS soon, and ban Soros, we are in trouble. Teh man went on US TV, said he loved what he did for the Nai's, "Best years of my life," he said. He also said he saw people as "pieces on a geme board." Very disturbed way to justify his cruelty. He swore to destroy the US economy during Obama, but was his buddy!
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 1 year, 8 months ago
    Russia didn't let Cuba fire rockets at us in the 1960's, Russia will not stand with China against the United States, N
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    • Posted by 1 year, 8 months ago
      Well, I don't think in war. But on the world stage as Anti-Bullies... That's what we are.
      Eco Terrorists, and Financial Terrorists.

      Yassir Arafat is spinning in his grave over the behavior of the USA... Imagine that! (Your stealing my Act)
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    • Posted by mhubb 1 year, 8 months ago
      agreed
      right now, it is good for them to seem best buddies as our nation has gone insane

      but in the long run, Russia knows china wants siberia and its resources
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 1 year, 8 months ago
    Having read some history of China Xi is patterning himself after the emperors of the past despite the CCP's control of the military. Also, based on numerous articles I read on Putin, he is answerable to the oligarchs.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 1 year, 8 months ago
    For a long time I believed Xi was the one controlling the globalists. Now I think he is merely similar, a second Klaus Schwab in a race with the first. If they get their way they'll likely divide the world up between themselves.

    As for Putin, I've been hearing from some good sources (I recommend VivaBarnesLaw and The Duran, both podcasts on https://Rumble.com) and I believe Putin is very much like Trump in that he's the only important Russian politician who has the patience and good sense not to escalate the war. His competitors in Russia are all hardliners who look at the Soviet Union as the good old days and want it back. So if our troops or even some loner were to blow Putin away, we wouldn't get peace, we'd get a much more ruthless war leader, one we don't want to be fighting.
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    • Posted by Dobrien 1 year, 8 months ago
      I think that you have Xi all wrong. First off Soros has been screaming about how Xi is a threat to democracy. Weird that he said the same about Trump and Putin. Not really because the 3 of them are destroying the old guard. Second Xi has arrested close to 1,000,000 Chinese Govt Officials for corruption since he took the reins. The most fascinating arrest was on National TV when they hauled his Predecessor away as he sat right next to Xi. His predecessor was the Globalist who allowed Apple and Nike and others to essentially get a slave labor workforce for millions in kickbacks. Also hearing Xi just last week making a powerful statement about de-escalation of the Ukraine cleanup , calling for peace. Trump and his border crossing with Rocketmanwould not have happened if Xi was a Globalist and not for sovereignty. Xi changed the Chinese chain of command to where he is commander and chief of the military.His Gold backed Yuan is a direct attack on our enemies (The central bankers) and the mother WEFers.( Schwab and King Charles)
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    Posted by rhradosevich 1 year, 8 months ago
    Can't believe this...Ukraine is corrupt?...do you now who the richest man in the world is? Do you know why "the second most powerful military" was revealed to be a paper tiger.

    That Russia was pushed into this war is laughable. Pray tell what made Russian invade and annex Crimea. Communist Russia is the most aggressive nation in the world. See below:
    Countries invaded by communist Russia
    1917-22 Ukraine, Belarus, South Caucasus, Central Asia, Tuva and Mongolia invaded and incorporated into the Soviet Union
    1917-20 Kazakhstan invaded and incorporated into the Soviet Union
    1920 Overthrow of Azerbaijan Democratic Republic and incorporated into the Soviet Union
    1920 Overthrow of the First Republic of Armenia and incorporated into the Soviet Union
    1920 Overthrow of the Democratic Republic of Georgia and incorporated into the Soviet Union
    1939 Eastern Poland invaded and incorporated into the Soviet Union
    1939-1940 Finland invaded and a portion of Finland incorporated into the Soviet Union
    1940 Estonia invaded and incorporated into the Soviet Union
    1940 Latvia invaded and incorporated into the Soviet Union
    1940 Lithuania invaded and incorporated into the Soviet Union
    1940 Bessarabia invaded and incorporated into the Soviet Union
    1940 Northern Bukovina invaded and incorporated into the Soviet Union
    1949-50 Assists North Korean invasion of South Korea
    1960’s-70’s Assists North Vietnam invasion of South Vietnam
    1979-89 Afghanistan invaded
    1992 Transnistria occupied
    2014 Luhansk occupied
    2014 Donetsk occupied
    2014 Crimea invaded and incorporated into Russia
    2022 Ukraine invaded
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    • Posted by 1 year, 8 months ago
      My understanding was that Ukraine had Control of Crimea, under agreement, that because Russia needed that Naval base, that if things fell apart, they could hold an election in Crimea, and they could decide. THAT happened.

      Soon after, the USA began their games, including having Ukraine build a DAMN to cut off the fresh water supply into Ukraine.

      And the 2014 stuff, it cuts both ways... Lookup Diane Nuland! Caught on a recorded line admitting that we caused the color revolution.

      To consider Crimea "Invaded" is interesting. Again, it's a NAVAL Base for Russia.

      I think if Russia gets Luhansk/Donetsk/Crimea. They are good. They have control.

      But I also KNOW that we keep putting Missiles closer to their borders. As they are surrounded by NATO, and each new NATO country gets missiles aimed at Russia.
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      • Posted by rhradosevich 1 year, 8 months ago
        So Victoria Nuland convinced Viktor Yanukovych to reject the EU-Ukraine agreement. That is what lead to the 2014 coup. Crimea is not a naval base...Sevastopol is a naval base. No one forced Finland and Sweden to apply for Nato membership...why do you think they are applying now?
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        • Posted by 1 year, 8 months ago
          Well, my post is simply that some of my beliefs are being challenged.
          First, my own belief in my country doing the right thing. Now the largest Eco Terrorists EVER!

          No, but Diane got caught calling for, effectively CAUSING the color revolution that followed! Viktor was Pro Russian, and the EU hated that.
          Listen to Merkels recent comments, that Putin threw back at her.. They were KNOWINGLY negotiating in bad faith, giving Ukraine time to build up their military.

          I assume you believe we should be sending Americans to protect their border, while ours is wide open.

          Look the entire SYRIA BS was about getting a pipeline into europe to cripple Russia. It failed. Gee look. We are at it again, using Ukraine.

          Zelensky was supported by Soros, Clintons, et al. This is all a setup.
          They have the proof (and I have Ukrainian friends), that it was Ukraine Shelling their own people in those regions, claiming they were terrorists.
          Since when do you SHELL neighborhoods when you suspect terrorists?

          Oh, and they kept stepping it up, until Putin was forced to move in to protect those people.

          NOW, I am NOT saying Putin is "Clean" on this. Other Ukranian friends, and Georgian friends tell me that Putin moved in there and started assigning Russian Passports along the border to those people who wanted them. He had done the same Georgia.
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          • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 1 year, 8 months ago
            And it seems, "The Set Up" has scared the wieners off the Swede's and Fin's so they would run, not walk, not Think but join Nato...dumies!...I am ashamed of the Swedes.
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          • Posted by rhradosevich 1 year, 8 months ago
            Believe me I do not support the current administration...Biden's border, energy and economic policies are ruining America. Again it was Yanukovych's decision that lead to the coup....that is undisputable. It is not necessary to send US troops...if we provided aircraft to establish air superiority Russia would be defeated in a year.
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            • Posted by 1 year, 8 months ago
              It it even looks like we go that far.
              Then I hope that Putin takes out 100% of the electrical and water systems of Ukraine.
              Because that's what I would do to that level of escalation.

              Putin has offered to negotiate, but so far, we are the ones breaking our words.

              If you look at a map, and know what Putin wants.
              My view is give it to him. And not one inch more.
              Then make him rebuild TWICE the area given. Meaning an equal part of Ukraine.

              And we have "encouraged" countries to join NATO, to do what Joe said "Be a thorn in the side to Russia". Let's not be naive about NATO.

              Which should be disbanded!
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              • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 1 year, 8 months ago
                To be fair, you'd have to establish and prove Whom blew up what...much, if not all of the damage and deaths Outside the two Russian areas and biolabs were more than likely created by the Ukrainian Nazis; and if the Nazi's left the two new Russian Areas alone, Putin would have been gone a long time ago.

                I read a few Intel pieces that stated a peace deal had already been made but the old world disorder creatures, the global delete, great unwashed and parasitical humanoids of the worlds Kakistocracy's stuck their excrement smelling fingers in the peace pie!
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    • Posted by $ jdg 1 year, 8 months ago
      "That Russia was pushed into this war is laughable. Pray tell what made Russian invade and annex Crimea."

      I'll bite. Crimea and Donetsk/Luhansk were ethnically Russian since before the Soviets adjusted the border in the '50s to put them inside Russia. Furthermore, the 2014 Kyiv accords gave those Russians the right to continue living there and not be ethnically cleansed. Zelensky broke that treaty and started the war the same year it was made. Putin waited 7+ years before shooting back!

      Then there were the votes within all three provinces to join Russia. A century ago I would have told you that process was illegal -- but we set the precedent legitimizing it ourselves, in Kosovo.
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      • Posted by 1 year, 8 months ago
        Bingo. I do NOT understand how people do not see this. I say, for the value of human lives alone, we give Russia the areas they want. And we REQUIRE that they help rebuild an area EQUAL to what they were given, inside of Ukraine. A Win/Win...

        unless your a globalist...
        Russia gets full and access to Crimea.
        And the rebuilding can begin.

        But DEEPER things are at play.
        China will come through there with their Silk and Road initiative, and that is pissing the Deep the State off...

        Meanwhile, China helped Iran and Saudi's negotiate a peace deal, re-opening diplomatic relations. SOMETHING changed... Like the USA's "position" in the world...
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    • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 year, 8 months ago
      And which one of these countries do they still own/control? None, I think.
      Now list all the countries we invaded and how did that work out?
      War sucks. No matter how righteous you think you are, war is wrong.
      The last 300 years all wars have been started and funded by certain family-owned banks (you know to which families I refer).
      War is a racket. For money. There is no honer in killing for money.
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    • Posted by fairbro 1 year, 8 months ago
      You are only reading and copying from US media. Try RT for a change, an honest news outlet.
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      • Posted by rhradosevich 1 year, 8 months ago
        Specifically what is dishonest in my post?
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        • Posted by fairbro 1 year, 8 months ago
          Anything before 1950 is ancient history, unless you want to get into the continental genocide of the Indians and slavery and colonialism by America.

          1960’s-70’s Assists North Vietnam invasion of South Vietnam -
          US started this war with a false flag operation - Gulf of Tonkin incident.

          1979-89 Afghanistan invaded -
          CIA was seeding terrorists into Russia and inciting Caucasus revolutions like Chechnya

          1992 Transnistria occupied - You left out Romania, Bulgaria,. Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Hungary, Czech Republic, plus a dozen more, occupied by NATO.

          2014 Luhansk occupied - Liberated declared Independence from illegal coup, an overthrow engineered by Victoria Nuland, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Pentagon and NATO.
          2014 Donetsk occupied - Liberated Ditto above ^

          In these territories, speaking Russian, the native language of 98% of the inhabitants was declared a crime by the US-installed coup government. The Mayor of Kharkov (Ukraine) was fined last week for the second time, for speaking Russian. Third offense is prison..

          2014 Crimea invaded and incorporated into Russia - Russians were finally rejoined with Russia. Liberated
          Crimea has been Russian since the 1700's.

          2022 Ukraine invaded - Russia, after 16,000 casualties, finally responded to EIGHT YEARS of shelling on civilians in Lugansk and Donetsk by Kiev and NATO.

          Why do you believe the media? You KNOW they are serial liars.
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        • Posted by mhubb 1 year, 8 months ago
          ok....

          point one
          1917-1922 Soviet union takes stuff
          nope
          did not exist until 1922
          the Russian Civil War was on-going after Russia left WW1

          and i am kinda sure Russian/Ukraine history goes on well before 1917, longer than the Unites States has existed

          and need we mention the whole nazi/murder Jews thing??
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        • Posted by rhradosevich 1 year, 8 months ago
          It’s not ancient history....it is Russia’s history the most aggressive state in the world. What have Indians and slavery got to do with anything?

          The Soviets were supporting Vietnamese communists long before the Tonkin incident.

          So it took Russia 10 years to stop the CIA seeding terrorist in Afghanistan...no Russia wanted to occupy Afghanistan.

          You do know that membership in Nato is voluntary don’t you.

          Ukraine had internationally recognized borders that Russia violated.

          If Ukraine is being liberated why are they fighting so hard against the Russians.
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          • Posted by mhubb 1 year, 8 months ago
            wanna talk "native" Americans????
            their slavery???
            their cannibalisms??
            their wars??

            human sacrifices or did you miss that whole cutting the hearts out of live prisoners the Aztecs and Mayans used to do?????

            or how the local tribes used the Pilgrims and their guns as threats against the tribes they fought???
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          • Posted by fairbro 1 year, 8 months ago
            If you are going to dredge up WW2 and WW1, and claim that is relevant, then you need to address the holocaust-genocide of the hundreds of indian tribes, millions of red-men in North and South America and own up to the the institution of slavery in the Western hemisphere.

            My generations and me, is not responsible for something that happened 100 years ago, and neither are today's Russians responsible for all the world's evil going back 1000 years, as you seem to believe.
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              Posted by rhradosevich 1 year, 8 months ago
              Indians and slavery have got nothing to do with Communist Russia being the most aggressive state in the world.
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              • Posted by mhubb 1 year, 8 months ago
                most agreesive state...

                gee, i see China and what is is doing

                i see the Mexican cartels and what they are doing

                i see what the us did in blowing up the gas pipeline
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              • Posted by fairbro 1 year, 8 months ago
                It's an ANALOGY.

                My generations and me, is not responsible for something that happened 100 years ago, and neither are today's Russians responsible for what past generations did.

                Russia is not Communist. Pay attention. comrade. Anyone who votes for the Communist Party in Russia, today, is laughed at..

                You seem to be stuck in the past.
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          • Posted by 1 year, 8 months ago
            Everything we hear is a lie.
            Have you heard the news early on?
            Russian Generals were being slaughtered, and their soldiers were crying themselves to sleep.

            Then why does Ukraine keep losing the critical battles? Why didn't Russia, on DAY ONE, take out 60% of all electrical output in Ukraine, and 80% of the water/waste processing?

            Putin avoided civilian targets, especially outside these regions, UNTIL they bombed the bridge (again, with help from the USA, because clear shots of missiles).

            Meanwhile, in America. Russian News is blocked. to ensure we only get the party line.
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            • Posted by rhradosevich 1 year, 8 months ago
              Russian news is not blocked...I watch it all the time in fact Solovyov and Simonyan are my two favorite lunatics. Were Kharkiv and Kherson critical battles?
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              • Posted by fairbro 1 year, 8 months ago
                Russian news is blocked, shadow banned and censored. The search algorithms are ALTERED by Google so that a video showing the truth about Russia gets 2k views, a video legitimizing Kiev/NATO disinformation (on the SAME topic) gets 2 Million views.

                Google Youtube deleted, in 2015 ALL of the Youtube videos showing Ukr. Air Force bombing civilian areas of Lugansk in 2014 - churches, schools, resdintial and business areas, even an orphanage. .

                Ukraine, NATO and the Pentagon are up to their necks in war crimes like the Nordstream Pipeline explosion and seeding Donbass with about 1 million child-maiming "Petal Mines." not to mention the dozen or so US biowarfare labs in Ukraine on Russian borders
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