Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade
Posted by jack1776 2 years, 5 months ago to Government
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Seeing the hypocrisy on display by the Pro-Abortion camp is very mind blowing. Our Body’s our Choice, doesn’t mean what it used to mean before the mandates.
Therefore, any restrictions as well as its legality period is up to each state and the legal citizens within it to decide what's what.
Good decision.
Wondering if the Democrat majority of both houses will try to pack the Supreme Court now. That could pretty well kill the USA as we know it.
Just read elsewhere that Dick's Sporting Goods will pay the travel expenses of any employee who wants an abortion. Free country. So is where you want to shop.
Then someone else jumped in. Points could all again go south, though.
What the hell? All me dino wrote is an honest personal opinion.
I could not see how the "Ninth Amendment should apply here."
On my PC I found an interesting link if albeit for kids~~
https://kids.laws.com/ninth-amendment
Scroll down to "Modern Use of the Ninth Amendment"
Read the second sentence, please, for the sake of polite argument.
Ninth Amendment: "The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”
people." That means natural rights, inborn, not granted by the government, and not given over to the State (or nation.) It does not mean just rights recognized by "tradition", as Alito mentioned, such as the English common law tradition which said a husband had the right to beat his wife "in moderation" .)(see
Blackstone's Commentaries.) If all we have to depend on is "tradition", we have not much protection from the government at all. And if one is concerned with rights, there is hardly a right that could be named that is more fundamental than the right over one's own body.
There still remains the question whether there is one body there, or whether another person's body is concerned there, in the womb.But how is it considered at the end of life? I believe that when a person is dying and on life suppport, when the brain waves cease, they pull the plug. If that is the standard at the end of life, isn't it logical that it should apply at the beginning?
It is my understanding the brain waves appear in the fetus shortly before it is 3 months along. So wouuldn't that determine when it becomes a conscious being?
While I sympathasize with women who have unexpected pregnacies, it's my opinion that abortion is murder~~and as an industry a grotesque massacre of innocents with sickening slaughterhouses that sell baby parts.
The Catholic Church says people should not use contraceptives. I don't agree with that at all! And that's only one of several reasons me an old dino became an ex-Catholic when I was age 20 or so.
Way, way back them me dino was no Mr. Perfect but found condoms to be very cheap.
Is it? There is something that did not occur to me back then. Premature births that do not enjoy the full span of a nine full months. Premature births that even required intensive emergency care have grown up to become productive citizens who father or mother children of their own.
So what is a premature birth who manages to survive? A fetus or a baby? Well, I contend that it lies there hopefully able to cry outside of the womb-~breathing with a heart beating~ so therefore that's a baby. A human being baby who, in this country, has the same Constitutional rights as any other American baby for being a person.
At what point does a baby, okay, call it still a fetus for being on the inside instead of the outside, becomes an individual with a human right to life? Such as a baby born prematurely? That's a question post Roe vs Wade states will have to deal with should abortion limitations be considered from state to state.
And at what point does an abortion become a criminal murder or a justified homicide? The word homicide simply means the killing of a human being, by the way.
So when does fetus or a baby become a human being. Nine months after conception when it pops out of mama? I don't think so.
And what if it's determined having a baby will kill the mother? I do believe she has a right to make a choice then.
I'm not going to pretend I'm a big time philosopher who knows everything. I do know one thing. Even a big time philosopher is an imperfect human being subject to error.
Saw a photo of three women (1 black, 2 white) in a composite photo on my PC screen yesterday.
All three escaped a late term abortion by being inconveniently born at the moment they were supposed to killed.
That's three times an abortionist (a doctor or not) decided not to commit infanticide aka first degree murder. I suppose that's three times that could have been covered up with some fetus disposal procedure. Bet that has happened plenty of times.
I find myself undecided about that. So I made a blanket statement without factoring in that uncertainty.
Me dino admits that I too am not perfect. So what?
I have better things to do than quibbling over this.
the plug when someone has been dying on life support, isn't it?
Hell, with it. I've other things I need to do today.
The only situation that I personally would consider to be a valid reason for aborting would be an ectopic pregnancy, but in that case, there LITERALLY is no way the baby could survive. If it could, then.... we should do that.
2) I've said it before (was eviscerated by another user, and I don't care) and I'll say it again: Kill the perpetrator, not either of the victims.
Not the rape victim's fault, either.)----
However, I understand that a trial takes a long time, so chances are that unless there were some kind of judicial speed-up (I don't pretend to know much about those things), by the time the perpetrator was convicted, the offspring very likely would have been born anyway.
What a heartless sow!
Besides, the selling of baby parts has been exposed by that guy (what's his name) who I understand still faces libtarded charges after secretly making an iPhone video of a Planned Parenthood banshee admitting to all that.
Exposing some much truth.
Worked off and on with an Officer Keefe at the prison. Now I wonder if his ancestral family to the "O'" off their surname to become more Americanized.
Yes two capital letters O’B
So I always spell my name when asked for it such as when I picked up my type 2 diabetes prescription medication at a CVS two days ago.
One day while working at that prison for about 18 of 21 years, I found the start of my name spelled "Head--" on a day's work roster. I was all like "Aw, c'mon!"
I was complaining once to my father about it, and he said, "You'll change it, anyway." Man, what a dream world he was living in!
Clarence Thomas – reconsider contraception and gay marriage ~ https://www.foxnews.com/politics/clar...
Nether of these are Supreme court issues because no one has brought a law suite up in a lower court first. The Supreme court doesn’t make law and can take no action on their own, both of these guys know this, I don’t know why they would say this now? Is it to inflame? The Supreme court doesn’t have standing.
Too much of what our government does is well beyond their constitutional mandate.
Ayn Rand: “An embryo has no rights. Rights do not pertain to a potential, only to an actual being. A child cannot acquire any rights until it is born. The living take precedence over the not-yet-living (or the unborn).
"Abortion is a moral right—which should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved; morally, nothing other than her wish in the matter is to be considered. Who can conceivably have the right to dictate to her what disposition she is to make of the functions of her own body?"
I contend that the moment the reaction occurs that begins the development of new DNA, uniquely independent, but comprised from, the male and female, is the moment life begins. I do not think any sentience is needed for some to be considered living it his/her earliest stages. The process begun, if left alone, would amount to a human being short of a catastrophe.
We can agree to disagree. But a unique DNA strand, to me, is the deciding factor separating the entity from its host and that makes it murder.
Given this position, what are your views regarding the rights and obligations of pregnant women? Should any woman who voluntarily has an abortion be tried for murder?
Got to appreciate the hypocrisy of the women's liberation movement. A doesn't equal A unless I say it does.
My take is akin to contract law. Two parties mutually agree to a service knowing full well the profit and loss, the service is completed, the two go their ways each profiting. Acceptable. However, one party decides that their end didn't work out as it had hoped. Said party decides the contract can't apply because this time didn't go as planned and seeks restitution.
A woman is either equal or not. If yes, then her decision to engage in sex and the protections taken before during and after sex and the consequences of those actions if they aren't sufficient are her own. This also includes her insistence on her chosen male to take measures to prevent an unwanted outcome. With the ability to seek damages (child support) a woman owns the situation entirely due to having the options of birth control and abortion.
Men, equal partners in consensual sex, shouldn't have to pay because they have no voice in the end result. Naturally, this argument cannot apply to broken or common law marriages as that's a different set of circumstances entirely.
Equality. What a concept.
I'll look to see if I can find the old posts but I think I got the gist of it.
As I said prior, there are pre- and post- coitus birth control methods readily available for a price without crossing state lines. I highly doubt a rape victim is going to wait very long to get whats needed to ensure noting take hold. And, birth control shouldn't be subsidized either.
99% of the abortions have nothing to do with violence rape or incest.
Instead of the tax payer paying, I rather the victim had the option to neuter the prick(s) to violated her. As a dad, I'd gladly decimate anyone attempting anything on my family.
Source a liberal rag.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...
side note: I know a woman who was the product of violent rape. She's a good person who raised three good kids. She doesn't define who she is by her origin.And, I personally think the world would be worse off without her and her influence.
At some odd rare times me dino aka the dino also displays me modest formal name whut be His Excellency Dino Philosoraptor Allosaurus Esquire BS for me despite me School Of Hard Rocks college degree be humble in every way in me imperfection for becoming extinct by the end of the Jurassic millions of years before the asteroid hit to end the Cretaceous (T-Rex) Period.
Yeah, youse believe me am a sensitive sweetie if you want to keep breathin'. I am dino~~hear me ROAR!
Here I've gone to bat for the new monikers of people I don't even know.
You may remember how I made friends with Suzane a number of years back.
Threw such a dino hissy fit I risked getting kicked off the board.