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There is a shortage of formula for Babies. Is there a shortage of Breasts?

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Why are babies sucking on rubber nipples filled with highly processed cow's milk when there's a Mom with Real Food in a Real Boob?

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  • Posted by $ Abaco 2 years, 7 months ago
    My wife wasn't able to breastfeed. You'd be surprised at how many women don't produce.
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    • Posted by $ gharkness 2 years, 7 months ago
      Back 50 years ago, I was a La Leche Leage "leader," meaning, I was one sent out to help when a new mom was having trouble breastfeeding. I really didn't last very long, though, because the LLL unofficial and unspoken mantra was "There are NO excuses." Well, being that I live in the real world, I simply was not willing to shame and berate women for having serious problems with this very natural process... so I was gone in about a year. But, given that life holds many things more than just breastfeeding, yes, sometimes the problems were real and could not be overcome reasonably. Not to mention that if the process doesn't start very soon after birth (meaning a few days), it's basically unrecoverable.
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    • Posted by $ nickursis 2 years, 7 months ago
      According to the insane libertards, men can get pregnant, so every dad needs to become the auxiliary food supply.....next up: Antigravity is racist and homophobic....
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  • Posted by $ brightwriter 2 years, 7 months ago
    Has anyone notice that potatoes contain alkaloids that, in turn, resemble a factor that, in circulation, inhibits prolactin production, so that telling dry women to stop eating potatoes has a significant chance of allowing breastfeeding to work? Organized medicine, the Medically Organized Relying On Nonsense (MORONs), missed that point.
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  • Posted by $ puzzlelady 2 years, 7 months ago
    Why don't all women breastfeed? Let me count the ways. 1) died in childbirth (mother or child or both); 2) severe illness incapacitating one or the other; 3) "inconvenience", as with working mothers who have to pump their milk and worry about leaking through their clothes in the office; 4) vanity of losing firmness after weaning; 5) life situations of broken family, violent relations, drug and other problems; 6) ignorance where instinct leaves off; 7) availability of substitute mothers (“wet nurses” who keep lactating like a milked cow).

    All unfortunate situations, but nature is wasteful with life, and pragmatic. As long as enough are born and grow strong, missing out on some doesn't affect the big picture, only the individual case. The same with all lifeforms--not all are born as world-class specimens, either. Nature is indifferent to individual happiness; that's up to us. And yet it is the unique breakthrough by a unique individual that turns tides and levels mountains. One in a million will do to keep us going. So what if a few billion perish in wars and plagues?

    As for breastfeeding, ultimately that is no one else's business, just as with contraception. Formula makers gain from mothers not nursing--sell more formula. Here is where the individual mother needs to make an independent decision, since such businesses are clever salespeople and "influencers". As long as people can be motivated away from or towards choices not in their own best long-term interest, there will be controversies in our complicated societies.

    As to the attraction of breasts to men, the deeply buried subconscious whose job it is to instigate mating and reproduction--call it the selfish gene--tempts and tricks males to want sex, especially with fit females, which sometimes does, in fact, produce infants that will need to suck on those nipples that for the male are so attractive and whose exercise and stimulation trains the woman's body towards motherhood and contractions. Pleasurable sensations are the gene's trickery. Otherwise a smart species would avoid altogether the labor pains and decades of devotion to raising the next generation. We have a long way to go to figure out how to have life, liberty, and potential happiness all in one package and still keep human evolution going as a positive process.

    And yes, I did bear and nurse three children.
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    • Posted by 2 years, 7 months ago
      It's a sacrifice of 20 years of one's life to dedicate it to the children being raised. No, we CAN'T have it ALL.
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      • Posted by $ puzzlelady 2 years, 7 months ago
        Yes, and they are paying back the years THEIR parents invested in creating and raising THEM. And those children will also pay those years back by caring for the old folks at end-of-life. It's nature's cycle controlled by the selfish genes that make life possible and continuing.
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    • Posted by Dobrien 2 years, 7 months ago
      I agree with much of your comment but I take issue with a couple things I think your No 1 should be last not first ...The most recent U.S. maternal mortality ratio, or rate, of 17.4 per 100,000 pregnancies represented approximately 660 maternal deaths in 2018. This ranks last overall among industrialized countries. More than half of recorded maternal deaths occur after the day of birth.
      “So what if a few billion die from war and PlanDEMics” I can’t believe that you mean that.
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      • Posted by $ puzzlelady 2 years, 7 months ago
        You're right, Dobrien. That was caustic sarcasm. The trouble is, there are policymakers out there who think that way.
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        • Posted by Dobrien 2 years, 7 months ago
          There certainly are and I have been singing that tune for several years . I will name names at th3 top Rothschilds , Barusch , Warburg, House of Orange , Windsor , Schwab , Gates , Soros , Foundations after Foundations after Foundations to name the upto 90 Delete Families. They are the Masters we are slaves and the state is everything. Of course as masters they are the state. It is the Prussian philosophy. You might find this essay of interest I’ll provide a link “This is a story about Prussia. Prussia is an empire that is no more; a royal dynasty that is no more; a state that is no more. ‘No more’ to the public eye, that is; Prussia is now hidden, invisible and deeply penetrated within almost every nation state and the matrix of corporations that control governments. This is a story about a Horrible Invisible Enemy.”
          https://prussiagate.substack.com/p/th...
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  • Posted by Flootus5 2 years, 7 months ago
    I am the last one to ask anything about babies and how to feed them, but my main reaction to this story is this: What an opportunity could exist if we actually had a free market and the government got OUT OF THE WAY!
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 2 years, 7 months ago
    Had a woman post on Telegram that if you need formula, go to Amazon, switch it to Canada, and they have boatloads. Only the U.S. has a FDA shutting down plants for 6 months, and creating an artificial shortage. But then, our current communist brandon regime seems to specialize in creating artificial shortages and problems.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 2 years, 7 months ago
    Don't women dry up after the baby is weaned? I recall that 50 years ago there was outrage over this against a company that had been marketing baby formula in poor countries, causing mothers to dry up before they realized they couldn't afford to continue buying it.
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    • Posted by $ gharkness 2 years, 7 months ago
      Yes, it's definitely a "use it or lose it" proposition, literally. When my baby was 8 months old, I had to have surgery, and in those days, surgery means "hospital for one full week." He got weaned very quickly, and I was never able to go back to nursing him again.
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  • Posted by starguy 2 years, 7 months ago
    That has really puzzled me: other than being used as "guy magnets", boobs DO have another function, that of nourishing infants.
    But, I guess that's just me, not being "woke", or something.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 2 years, 7 months ago
    I won't comment on the pros and cons of breastfeeding, but are people really going to let their babies starve to death, because manufactured infant formulas don't exist?

    Work the problem, people...
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 2 years, 7 months ago
    There was testing showing covid vaccine can be passed to children through breast milk, so Maybe we do need to switch to Goat milk for a while, till the vaccinated all finish getting boosted till their immune systems fail.
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  • Posted by katrinam41 2 years, 7 months ago
    I had to stop nursing because I produced so much that the baby couldn't handle the pressurized jet. A breast pump only made me produce more. I never knew how huge nursing breasts could get, and it HURT! Hurt is a very mild word for what I experienced, and I wished I could have done it like my mother, who had to go to formula after her last childbirth--triplets. Nine kids total. Mom, I salute you!
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  • Posted by term2 2 years, 7 months ago
    when we have gotten way too reliant on the benefits of what our society produces, we forget that everyone has gotten too used to "just in time" to cut down inventories. Kind of a bad idea , as we are seeing right now.

    Some end-user inventory is not a bad thing in terms of food, medicines, clothes, transportation, even cell phones.
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    • Posted by $ nickursis 2 years, 7 months ago
      No need, Goats milk has been proven to be an excellent replacement, very low in harmful fats and clumpy enzymes. There is a herd of pediatricians who strongly reccomend it. Although, with horses, you actually need the first 24 hours of the mothers milk to get the colostrum that is in it, which is critical to the immune system of the child. If a horse cannot nurse in the first 24 hours, you need to get colostrum from the vet, so I would think logically, it is a mammalian thing, and true for most species.
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      • Posted by $ Snezzy 2 years, 7 months ago
        Yes, there is a replacement formula for goats and sheep that we use when necessary. It's made from one can of Meyenberg brand evaporated goat milk, reconstituted with water, plus one raw egg, plus one half envelope of Knox unflavored gelatin. Put in blender. Feed sparingly. When a good-producing ewe or doe gives birth we try to collect some of the colostrum that we can put into the freezer, so that a newborn to a dry mother can get some before we switch over to the goat-milk formula.

        The result of bottle feeding a lamb or kid provides the heartwarming but difficult situation of having a "bottle lamb." We've got one right now, and she follows us everywhere. Mary Sawyer of Sterling, Massachusetts had one that followed her to school one day. Yes, really.

        Goat milk for human infants is likely a very good idea.
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        • Posted by $ nickursis 2 years, 7 months ago
          Yep..goats...horses....all the same. My wife has 2 female goats, just for fun. One has a form of seizures, that makes her unsuitable to breed, so the woman who had her gave her to us.
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  • Posted by TheOldMan 2 years, 7 months ago
    If you are expecting, make an appt with a lactation specialist for the week after your date! You would think that since human mammals have been around for 100+k years, bf would just be instinctual but it is not. Find a friend, sister, aunt with a recent a baby and have her show you how it's done. Don't allow baby to grasp nipple (pain!), you want mouth around the entire areole. There is nothing sadder than a sleep-deprived mother with painful nipples and a crying hungry baby at 3am. Oh did I mention setting up an appt with a lactation specialist IN ADVANCE of your due date?
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    • Posted by $ gharkness 2 years, 7 months ago
      "There is nothing sadder than a sleep-deprived mother with painful nipples and a crying hungry baby at 3am" Oh, definitely that was me for the entire first 8 weeks, except that baby was crying AND SO WAS I, literally. I cannot begin to describe the pain, but finally - about the time I was ready to give up, it got better very quickly. Thank GOODNESS!!
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      • Posted by Dobrien 2 years, 7 months ago
        My daughter had blocked ducts a few times with both her babies. Very painful ,the poor thing. But she would say today a small price to pay for those amazing little humans. Those moments of humanity will get everyone in one way or another. In fact it is unavoidable. Hopefully there will be sunshine after rain.
        We seem to live our lives in opposites. Positive/negative Pleasure/pain Happy/sad Hungry/full Hot/cold Confidence/fear Right/wrong and many more . Seems everyone touches those box’s , they are unavoidable. Because of that, it is a great idea to stay on the positive side of those that you can control.
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  • Posted by Ben_C 2 years, 7 months ago
    Breast feeding for working mom's can be a challenge. It requires a pump and storage. Lactation is not always consistent. Working at home is a better scenario if possible. And when my younger brother and sister were born it was milk from contented cows and a formula my mom concocted. We three developed normally as best as I can tell.
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  • Posted by cranedragon 2 years, 7 months ago
    Has Joe Biden started posting here? This is the kind of cluelessness I’d expect from the Teleprompter in Chief. You must know that there are allergies, sensitivities, babies in foster care, babies adopted, and other circumstances that make formula optimal if not crucial.
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    • Posted by CaptainKirk 2 years, 7 months ago
      I would argue that breastmilk from another mother would be more optimal than the crap they put in standard baby formula. From Seed Oils to enough HFCS to DEVELOP a sugar addiction...

      While I agree, there are MANY reasons SOME women cannot breast feed. We SIMPLY must LEVERAGE our new found desperation to find great alternatives.
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  • Posted by 2 years, 7 months ago
    The baby formula is made from cow's milk and is exposed to all the antibiotics and hormones that cows are pumped up on. Formula is manufactured by a long process with many steps including stripping out and then adding back fat and fat soluble vitamins along with water soluble vitamins. Original "organic" cow's milk from the store or farm might just be fine. Who can't buy milk for a baby?
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