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“uh, Ukraine has, uh, biological research facilities.” -Under Secretary of State Victoria Nuland

Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 1 month ago to Politics
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"Self-anointed "fact-checkers” in the U.S. corporate press have spent two weeks mocking as disinformation and a false conspiracy theory the claim that Ukraine has biological weapons labs, either alone or with U.S. support. They never presented any evidence for their ruling — how could they possibly know? and how could they prove the negative? — but nonetheless they invoked their characteristically authoritative, above-it-all tone of self-assurance and self-arrogated right to decree the truth, definitively labelling such claims false.
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Unfortunately for this propaganda racket masquerading as neutral and high-minded fact-checking, the neocon official long in charge of U.S. policy in Ukraine testified on Monday before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and strongly suggested that such claims are, at least in part, true. Yesterday afternoon, Under Secretary of State Victoria Nuland appeared before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), hoping to debunk growing claims that there are chemical weapons labs in Ukraine, smugly asked Nuland: “Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?”

Rubio undoubtedly expected a flat denial by Nuland, thus providing further "proof” that such speculation is dastardly Fake News emanating from the Kremlin, the CCP and QAnon. Instead, Nuland did something completely uncharacteristic for her, for neocons, and for senior U.S. foreign policy officials: for some reason, she told a version of the truth. Her answer visibly stunned Rubio, who — as soon as he realized the damage she was doing to the U.S. messaging campaign by telling the truth — interrupted her ."
SOURCE URL: https://greenwald.substack.com/p/victoria-nuland-ukraine-has-biological?s=w


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    Posted by 3 years, 1 month ago
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    "At the very least, Nuland's surprising revelation reveals, yet again, just how heavily involved the U.S. Government is and for years has been in Ukraine, on the part of Russia's border which U.S. officials and scholars from across the spectrum have spent decades warning is the most sensitive and vulnerable for Moscow. It was Nuland herself, while working for Hillary Clinton and John Kerry's State Department under President Obama, who was heavily involved in what some call the 2014 revolution and others call the “coup” that resulted in a change of government in Ukraine from a Moscow-friendly regime to one far more favorable to the EU and the West. All of this took place as the Ukrainian energy company Burisma paid $50,000 per month not to the son of a Ukrainian official but to Joe Biden's son, Hunter: a reflection of who wielded real power inside Ukraine.

    Nuland not only worked for both the Obama and Biden State Departments to run Ukraine policy (and, in many ways, Ukraine itself), but she also was Vice President Dick Cheney's deputy national security adviser and then President Bush's Ambassador to NATO. She comes from one of America's most prestigious neocon royal families; her husband, Robert Kagan, was a co-founder of the notorious neocon war-mongering group Project for the New American Century, which advocated regime change in Iraq long before 9/11. It was Kagan, along with liberal icon Bill Kristol, who (next to current editor-in-chief of The Atlantic Jeffrey Goldberg), was most responsible for the lie that Saddam was working hand-in-hand with Al Qaeda, a lie that played a key role in convincing Americans to believe that Saddam was personally involved in the planning of 9/11.

    That a neocon like Nuland is admired and empowered regardless of the outcome of elections illustrates how unified and in lockstep the establishment wings of both parties are when it comes to questions of war, militarism and foreign policy. Indeed, Nuland's husband, Robert Kagan, was signaling that neocons would likely support Hillary Clinton for president — doing so in 2014, long before anyone imagined Trump as her opponent — based on the recognition that the Democratic Party was now more hospitable to neocon ideology than the GOP, where Ron Paul and then Trump's neo-isolationism was growing.

    You can vote against neocons all you want, but they never go away. The fact that a member of one of the most powerful neocon families in the U.S. has been running Ukraine policy for the U.S. for years — having gone from Dick Cheney to Hillary Clinton and Obama and now to Biden — underscores how little dissent there is in Washington on such questions. It is Nuland's extensive experience in wielding power in Washington that makes her confession yesterday so startling: it is the sort of thing people like her lie about and conceal, not admit. But now that she did admit it, it is crucial that this revelation not be buried and forgotten."
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    Posted by NealS 3 years, 1 month ago
    Hmm, that was "conspiracy theory" up until last night when Tucker exposed the existence of the US funded labs. Now if he can expose the real scenario, of what the Russians are doing. It's obvious the Russians are not there just to make the rest of the world hate them.
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      Posted by $ jdg 3 years, 1 month ago
      The sources I've seen (blogs and podcasts, and posters on Gab) say that the US has these labs in more than 100 countries. Given what Bill Gates has said about wanting to reduce the global population, I think we should be raising a lot more fuss and pressing all countries to shut them down before they inflict another and more deadly pandemic on us all!

      I also would like to see more of Rand Paul getting in Fauci's face about it.
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    • Posted by Temlakos 3 years, 1 month ago
      The Russians are in there to destroy those labs. And also to recover a certain class of artifacts, the presence of which in that area will prove acutely embarrassing - I mean, impeachment-level embarrassing - to certain public officials. I cannot reveal any more without compromising my source. I have to leave it to the Russian Foreign Ministry to make the Big Reveal. As they already have with this issue.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 3 years, 1 month ago
    Yeah, don't worry. We should just worry about RUSSIA'S(!) management of bio labs in foreign lands - not the ones we still control. (very thick sarcasm here).

    When you look at the ethics of what we've been doing I have to wonder why we haven't taken a nuke in the past month.
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    • Posted by CaptainKirk 3 years, 1 month ago
      It's so hard for me. In the 1980s I was so proud to be an American... Would fight to the death for my country...

      Today, knowing what I know... We DESERVE the Nuke! Not because of the Americans, but because we host this VILE DEEP STATE of OPPRESSORS and CORRUPTED ELITES.

      Maybe McCarthy had to go because he was right!
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      • Posted by Aeronca 3 years, 1 month ago
        Are these corrupt leaders and deep-state actors elected? How about voters? We who vote, deserve the nuke. Those smart enough not to care to vote, deserve to live. Are the non-voters so hated by many, perhaps more Objectivist than the politically voting minded?
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        • Posted by 3 years, 1 month ago
          Many voters were misled, lied to. Does that deserve a death sentence? imo, no.
          Yes, they should have been more alert. They should have seen it coming after being lied to repeatedly.
          Just take away all the power from the federal government and see who survives without government assistance.
          That competition will be enough punishment and reward, imo, for the voters.
          But that's not adequate punishment for the corrupt businesses, politicians, lobbyists, bureaucracy, etc.
          who were 'following orders' and assisted in the conspiracy against the constitution and against the People.
          There should be a lot of business for undertakers.

          As for non-voters, until Trump, there hasn't been a choice that wasn't controlled by the Deep State.
          Choosing not to vote when you think the candidates (for national offices) are corrupt is nothing to be ridiculed for or ashamed of.
          imo, concluding the candidates are corrupt has been proven accurate.
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          • Posted by Aeronca 3 years, 1 month ago
            Thank you!
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            • Posted by chad 3 years, 1 month ago
              As Mark Twain once pointed out; 'If voting accomplished anything they wouldn't let us do it.' Government is a collectivist machine. The experiment to discover if it could actually protect people was the closest a governing body has ever come to allowing individuals to be free. No government protects it's citizens in their rights and free agency. As little freedom as was allowed demonstrated that liberty produces incredible results for humanity. The governing body from the first president on was going to end in collectivism. The difference is only that the citizens think they are free and can make a difference while obeying a cruel and dysfunctional ruling class. Because they believe this they continue to try to live free while obeying those who will destroy them. The result will be their death and an ultimate claim on their lives and their production by the state given permission with their acquiescence.
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              • Posted by CaptainKirk 3 years, 1 month ago
                Here Here.
                Once they got elected, they created these "Rules" of how they would behave. So that the average person had to "Pay to Play". I am certain our first few congresses were pretty amazing.
                And then the tax revenue started coming in. And their #1 job became Spending all that LOOT.

                Somehow we have to separate those in power from the purse!
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          • Posted by Dobrien 3 years, 1 month ago
            👍🏻Freedomforall for President!
            I don’t disagree with not voting if you despise the choices..... but if that situation occurs again I will
            Write in FFA.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 3 years, 1 month ago
    A Ukrainian Dozen #27
    Posted by $ Dobrien 1 week, 5 days ago to Entertainment
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    Here is my take, go ahead and call it fake.
    Match it up with the MSM Fake News , if you do you may find this and the memes , have more trues and clues for a reasoning mind to use.
    Ukraine The land of the Color Revolution designed by Norman L. Eisen , he is an American attorney, author, and former diplomat. He is a senior fellow in governance studies at the Brookings Institution, a CNN legal analyst, and the co-founder and executive chair of the States United Democracy Center. Great Credentials!!! He is the author of the “Playbook” how to over throw a govt. Now you actually have witnessed his game in 2020 election here.
    Eisen also sued Trump over 2 dozen x’s. He simulated a what if Trump doesn’t leave the office war games . Oh and the Brookings institute is tied the “spygate” , imagine that. Maybe the main stream media is telling you this info about Obama’s “ Ethics Czar” . Eisner did a good job , right ? as Hussein was soooo Ethical. Ukraine is one of the filthy cabals largest money laundering headquarters. Ukraine the Largest donor to the Clinton foundation ( need I say more?) George Soros formed not 1 but 2 anti-corruption NGO’s two decades ago. How has that worked out for the people ? Billions and Billions have poured from IMF and USAid to be dispersed to NGO’s the more humanitarian the name or the more WOKE the name the more $.
    Certainly there is ZERO accountability. The fake news is probably screeching about how we need to help those Ukrainian folks right now.
    Those NGO’s then donate to campaigns just like planned parenthood does with our tax dollars.

    U.S. bio labs (approx 8 of them) were also stationed there.

    Plenty of criminal activity in Ukraine involves, and is controlled by the filthy cabal. Ukraine’s current President was elected by the people, but like Trump, he too is fighting against the filthy cabal to no avail. Of course MSM is claiming that Putin is targeting innocent civilians. No he’s not. Note the 2 memesof an apartment that had a gas explosion and the same image as what the Russians attacked. He’s only blowing up targeted locations that need to go up in smoke. And once again… not our war! What if Putin will hand Trump EVIDENCE which will help DrainTheSwamp?
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  • Posted by $ blarman 3 years, 1 month ago
    Yes, it was very interesting that Rubio immediately pivoted on his next question to "leading the witness" by asking her if she believed that the Russians were "projecting" upon Ukraine.
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    • Posted by NealS 3 years, 1 month ago
      Yes, a good spin now coming out Rubio's pivot to shut her up. "They" now claim he did it because of what she was leaking might embarrass the US. Aren't we already embarrassed by this whole administration on every other subject and action?
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  • Posted by Dobrien 3 years, 1 month ago
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    Posted by $ Dobrien 4 days, 10 hours ago
    to ....
    It’s Official – White House Ukraine Crisis is Manufactured – Pelosi Says if Russia Doesn’t Invade Ukraine, It Proves Strength and Brilliance of Joe Biden Policy. (Hang the Traitors.)

    It was multiple Bioweapon labs. I am glad to see you have such a strong opinion with little to no knowledge of the topic .Hahaha you are deluded if you think the UN is your friend. Put your thinking cap on.
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    • Posted by 3 years, 1 month ago
      I do not understand your comment, DOB.
      The article was posted to point out that the feds admitted, perhaps accidentally,
      that there are biolabs in Ukraine, which was exactly the opposite of the lies
      being told by the media, the administration, and the traitorous neocon CINO Sen. Rubio.
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      • Posted by Dobrien 3 years, 1 month ago
        Seems Fir the last 2weeks all i’ve Been doing is pointing out the fabrication and the lies about Putin and Ukraine story. Phony stories and lies that are so blatant yet still believed by too many.
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  • Posted by Aeronca 3 years, 1 month ago
    That was a great article. I sort of used to like Sen. Rubio. Not so much now that I see him comprising a cover-up on command impromptu. WOW.

    Thanks for the article.
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    • Posted by CaptainKirk 3 years, 1 month ago
      I am in FL. I hate Rubio with a Passion.
      First, as a Jr. Person in Congress, he learned how to parlay his position. He sold his house for CASH, well above market prices, getting himself out of debt...
      Second, we have letters floating around, where he is asked to be paid as a consultant to hospitals, to help ensure they have fair representation in congress, and their goals are known, as well as to help the NAVIGATE the complex landscape of laws that impact them and the Federal Assistance they are probably getting...

      Nice... Raping Americans to profit yourself. Making unusually complex Rules so people have to pay you to interpret them, and then maybe getting special rules for your clients.

      Sounds EXACTLY like what "serving your country" should mean, and what our forefathers intended...

      But boy, he has a great smile, and a nice haircut... That should keep him in office for a while!
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  • Posted by Lucky 3 years, 1 month ago
    Late news, Russia informs US, we have the bio-weapons labs.

    .. Yes the ones that got put in 18 hours ago.
    The staff have diplomatic immunity, ok.
    But the material, would you like it back? How?
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  • Posted by mhubb 3 years, 1 month ago
    i doubt it was a deliberate Russian attack on that hospital
    the media and governments cannot be trusted to tell us facts
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    • Posted by Temlakos 3 years, 1 month ago
      How do we even know that the Russians were involved at all? My sources tell me that the Ukrainian military, or what's left of it - probably the Azov Regiment - are laying on false-flag pseudo-operations to blame the Russians.
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      • Posted by Dobrien 3 years, 1 month ago
        Yes I read an examination of the so called maternity hospital. They explained that one the explosions were intentionally buried in the ground and detonated all to create a crater. Also no fire associated with the attack.
        Apparently there was no fire associated with the
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        • Posted by Arthgallo 3 years, 1 month ago
          Yes! How do you bomb a hospital and have no dead and the next day claim 3! That’s it 3 people. Doesn’t make sense.
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          • Posted by Dobrien 3 years, 1 month ago
            Zelensky claimed they were going to have a nuclear meltdown to get NATO and a world war going ....again false like almost everything being reported by MSM.
            Thank goodness , the puppets have kicked into gear ...this.breaking 12 states have banned Russian Vodka , you will be arrested and deported if you order a Black Russian at a bar. Drink German Beer , hell its been almost 70 years since Hitler exterminated innocent Jewish humans. No that is not as bad as slavery ,that can never be amended. In a stand with Ukraine circle jerk , a thoughtful company canceled a Russian hockey player who loses a TV commercial contract , he gone.... Hmm maybe that company should get canceled for hiring that abomination in the first place. Anyway that will show that player that he should have been born somewhere else , Next we have to be thankful a Russian Orchestra conductor won’t be waving his authoritarian baton around ....he gone too. Others being required to denounce Putin to keep their job. Hooray , how virtuous. Consider , coming together with these Narcissistic con - libs who constantly cried xenophobia , when we wanted people vetted at our border. FuQ them all. I am a murderer because I didn’t get the jab! I am responsible for acts committed by some people 150 yrs ago but George Floyd’s not responsible for his felonies.
            FuQ them all. I am a patriot so that means I am whatever retarded label is hot on the virtue market. They ignorantly ignore the Uygher
            enslavement and can’t virtue signal fast enough for the $ laundermat and covert biolabs. Unreal!
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  • Posted by MildBill 3 years, 1 month ago
    Yep, ten in fact. Funded by the Obama admin.
    This is why Putin had to take Chernobyl. I understand that Russia is one of only a couple nations whose banks are not controlled by the globalists
    They also placed bio sites like in Taiwan
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  • Posted by Stormi 3 years, 1 month ago
    When you see the damage the US agencies working in virology lab in China created, and the increasesd damage when Winipeg's level 4 lab sent bio engineerred strains to the lab in China, it shut us down for 2 years, needlessly. Now those results continue to erase the immune system. How can we ignore that Ukrainse has numerous labs and that the US us working there also! Russia should be concerned, China previously expressed concern before the war, Poland should shudder, and the US is at great risk, since our people are cooking up the next pLandemic. NO aid shoudl to to Ukraine, until every last one is burned to the ground. That Soros creep in charge can go figure it out for himself. He reminds me of Hunter Biden.
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  • Posted by VicW 3 years, 1 month ago
    When news came out everyone wanted to be anti-Russia and Pro Ukraine.The only thing that came to my mind is that the enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend.
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  • Posted by Arthgallo 3 years, 1 month ago
    And what about the MIgs? Are there no Ukrainian pilots that can go to Poland and fly the jets home? Are there no airfields? Fuel? Doesn’t make sense.
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